Topic: A bried introduction into Flat Earth Theory.
Anonymous A started this discussion 15 years ago #7,971
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=1324.0
inb4
> hurr durr I form all my beliefs on evidence and reason
> *has never actually gone around the world*
> the earth must be flat because [appeal from authority]
Believing the earth is round because "everyone says so" is the equivalent of Christians saying "all these people couldn't be wrong".
Have an open mind- read the article.
inb4
> hurr durr I form all my beliefs on evidence and reason
> *has never actually gone around the world*
> the earth must be flat because [appeal from authority]
Believing the earth is round because "everyone says so" is the equivalent of Christians saying "all these people couldn't be wrong".
Have an open mind- read the article.
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Fuck you Brian Wilson joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 10 minutes later[^] [v] #138,495
> The sun and moon are spotlights
> The Earth is flat because it looks flat from Earth
> A series of tests
lol'd
> The Earth is flat because it looks flat from Earth
> A series of tests
lol'd
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 12 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #138,496
LOL A boatload of different models all appealing to things like dark energy or crazed theories like "photoelectric suspension" to make them work. Also, every space program ever was a hoax. This all sounds convincing.
EDIT: Oh Jesus, I forgot "Electromagnetic Acceleration", which states that light curves upward --except when it doesn't. (which is usually when we are observing it travel in straight lines) This stuff is hilarious.
EDIT: Oh Jesus, I forgot "Electromagnetic Acceleration", which states that light curves upward --except when it doesn't. (which is usually when we are observing it travel in straight lines) This stuff is hilarious.
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 15 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #138,497
@138,495 (Fuck you Brian Wilson)
> > The sun and moon are spotlights
Ok, that can seem a bit crazy.
However, is it? WE already have spotlight, all this would be is a larger one.
But to claim that a giant ball of fire, thousands of times the size of the earth exists... that is accepted without a second thought. This isn't surprising considering we are told it all our life, and it is never questioned.
Looking at both situations objectively, Occam's razor suggests a flat earth.
> > The Earth is flat because it looks flat from Earth
Looking around the immediate evidence suggests a flat earth. The burden of proof to the contrary is on the round earth supporters. However... The Flat Earth Society has taken done several tests, and provided several models to show that a flat earth is not only possible, but more likely.
I more than understand your skepticism- skepticism is good! But can you tell me why you believe the earth is round?
> > The sun and moon are spotlights
Ok, that can seem a bit crazy.
However, is it? WE already have spotlight, all this would be is a larger one.
But to claim that a giant ball of fire, thousands of times the size of the earth exists... that is accepted without a second thought. This isn't surprising considering we are told it all our life, and it is never questioned.
Looking at both situations objectively, Occam's razor suggests a flat earth.
> > The Earth is flat because it looks flat from Earth
Looking around the immediate evidence suggests a flat earth. The burden of proof to the contrary is on the round earth supporters. However... The Flat Earth Society has taken done several tests, and provided several models to show that a flat earth is not only possible, but more likely.
I more than understand your skepticism- skepticism is good! But can you tell me why you believe the earth is round?
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 16 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #138,498
Go away, scatman.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 32 seconds later, 17 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #138,499
@138,496 (C)
Okay, well I find a lot of the "astronomical" claims to be... astronomical!
Both will seem crazy, but a look at either makes it obvious: it's a flat earth.
Okay, well I find a lot of the "astronomical" claims to be... astronomical!
Both will seem crazy, but a look at either makes it obvious: it's a flat earth.
Fuck you Brian Wilson replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 20 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #138,502
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 23 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #138,504
@previous (Fuck you Brian Wilson)
I've seen spotlights before, hell I've seen large spotlights. I've never seen a "giant ball of fire" that sustains itself by "thermonuclear reaction", it's all a load of bullocks.
I've seen spotlights before, hell I've seen large spotlights. I've never seen a "giant ball of fire" that sustains itself by "thermonuclear reaction", it's all a load of bullocks.
Syntax joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 25 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #138,506
"Q: "What about satellites? How do they orbit the Earth?"
A: Since sustained spaceflight is not possible, satellites cannot orbit the Earth. The signals we supposedly receive from them are either broadcast from towers or any number of possible pseudolites. However, temporary space-flight is possible."
Well I will be damned - All those Satellite Dishes spread all around Planet Earth I use to access and control my Satellites are really radio towers.
Shocking just shocking. I think the Koran has earth as flat as well.
A: Since sustained spaceflight is not possible, satellites cannot orbit the Earth. The signals we supposedly receive from them are either broadcast from towers or any number of possible pseudolites. However, temporary space-flight is possible."
Well I will be damned - All those Satellite Dishes spread all around Planet Earth I use to access and control my Satellites are really radio towers.
Shocking just shocking. I think the Koran has earth as flat as well.
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Anonymous C replied with this 15 years ago, 40 seconds later, 26 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #138,507
Q: "What about satellites? How do they orbit the Earth?"
A: Since sustained spaceflight is not possible, satellites cannot orbit the Earth. The signals we supposedly receive from them are either broadcast from towers or any number of possible pseudolites. However, temporary space-flight is possible.
A: Since sustained spaceflight is not possible, satellites cannot orbit the Earth. The signals we supposedly receive from them are either broadcast from towers or any number of possible pseudolites. However, temporary space-flight is possible.
Syntax was lying to us all this time!!
Fuck you Brian Wilson replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 27 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #138,509
Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 33 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #138,512
@138,507 (C)
Based on the web page it must b. We of course must believe all we read on the internet.
As a kiddlet using my ham radio stuff I used to bounce signals off the moon. NOT a reliable repeatable experience but when it worked say once in 20 attempts, I wood send the signal as a pulse and wait for the return and based on speed of light round trip was about 5.5 seconds.
Based on Flat Earth version I wood have been far more successful
Based on the web page it must b. We of course must believe all we read on the internet.
As a kiddlet using my ham radio stuff I used to bounce signals off the moon. NOT a reliable repeatable experience but when it worked say once in 20 attempts, I wood send the signal as a pulse and wait for the return and based on speed of light round trip was about 5.5 seconds.
Based on Flat Earth version I wood have been far more successful
Ks !KansasxqvM joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 35 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #138,513
Oh come on... this HAS to be a joke.
Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 40 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #138,514
@previous (Ks !KansasxqvM)
There are many who still believe that the moon landing was faked and done as a Hollywood production.
There are many who still believe that the moon landing was faked and done as a Hollywood production.
Nega !34Kas0OdzM joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 42 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #138,515
@138,513 (Ks !KansasxqvM)
It's called Role Playing, and is considered serious business by quite a number of people.
It's called Role Playing, and is considered serious business by quite a number of people.
Leo Vegas !gNoGoD5HzQ joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 45 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #138,516
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Unintentional Jackass !LASXURl1b6 joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 hours later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #138,538
I shoot an arrow at a tree, it hits it. If the earth was flat, it would fall to the ground because of gravity. But because the earth is round, it keeps going along despite gravity because it is actually getting further from the ground level that it started.
Handel !khEOdtKF56 joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #138,553
Take a physics class OP, Jesus Christ this shit is nuts!
Tekamine !AnRbswGQv. joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #138,576
Coriolis Effect, Google it.
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 16 hours later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #139,513
@138,512 (Syntax)
It was not the moon it was a radio tower. It's very easy to put in an artificial delay, and the towers could easily hold the signal for a few seconds, before acting as a repeater.
It was not the moon it was a radio tower. It's very easy to put in an artificial delay, and the towers could easily hold the signal for a few seconds, before acting as a repeater.
Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 54 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #139,535
@previous (A)Its late my brain is full of Fuck & Makers Mark is overtaking blood stream. Few months ago I was working on a project for Satellites that measure magnetic declination/magnetic variation and then on ground Geomagnetic Maps and this image is a good representation of how the field varies as measured from up THERE
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 35 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #139,556
Green joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 9 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #139,561
Is this 1066?
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 9 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #139,816
Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #140,086
@139,556 (A)
If U are "1" who believes in Flat Earth theory - I suspect to figure out how Magnetism works, you rub two sticks together until you get fire and hold that fire next to a compass (must be in total darkness)
You move fire towards the compass to C Needle, and note that Fire does not move needle.
This is Step One for understanding
Goes back to the era of philosophies and worldviews of classical elements believed to reflect the simplest essential parts and principles of which anything consists or upon which the constitution and fundamental powers of anything are based, and they are Fire Air Earth Water
Or cause there were other parts of Planet not in communication Chinese they figure it out as Fire Earth Water Metal and Wood and Japan tossed in Heaven at some point
If U are "1" who believes in Flat Earth theory - I suspect to figure out how Magnetism works, you rub two sticks together until you get fire and hold that fire next to a compass (must be in total darkness)
You move fire towards the compass to C Needle, and note that Fire does not move needle.
This is Step One for understanding
Goes back to the era of philosophies and worldviews of classical elements believed to reflect the simplest essential parts and principles of which anything consists or upon which the constitution and fundamental powers of anything are based, and they are Fire Air Earth Water
Or cause there were other parts of Planet not in communication Chinese they figure it out as Fire Earth Water Metal and Wood and Japan tossed in Heaven at some point
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TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #140,096
When ever "Flat earth society - Bad religion" comes up my playlist, I get reminded of that site and how I wanna join it so I can donate $9, get the cool medallion and then, whenever I would apply for a job I'd write under special skills:
Flat earth society member
What a great CV that would make.
Flat earth society member
What a great CV that would make.
Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #140,107
@previous (TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k)
Over the years when I was sitting across the table and THEY had my resume in hand, and wood scan to some item and then ask me..I wood say to self Hummmmmmmm Y did that catch their eye.
I always had my Ham radio license on a line and that helped in many cases get some rapport. That is a key cause those people and I used to be one of THOSE People and still R. They can be cold son a bitches.
They C 1000's of replies for a position, and ya know the Flat Earth added Item Wood 100% 4 sure open up discussions. Could show you have a sense of Humor lol
Over the years when I was sitting across the table and THEY had my resume in hand, and wood scan to some item and then ask me..I wood say to self Hummmmmmmm Y did that catch their eye.
I always had my Ham radio license on a line and that helped in many cases get some rapport. That is a key cause those people and I used to be one of THOSE People and still R. They can be cold son a bitches.
They C 1000's of replies for a position, and ya know the Flat Earth added Item Wood 100% 4 sure open up discussions. Could show you have a sense of Humor lol
Ks !KansasxqvM replied with this 15 years ago, 46 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #140,108
@138,515 (Nega !34Kas0OdzM)
> It's called Role Playing, and is considered serious business by quite a number of people.
That somehow makes it awesome. Its like organized trolling.
@140,096 (TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k)
Do it faggot.
> It's called Role Playing, and is considered serious business by quite a number of people.
That somehow makes it awesome. Its like organized trolling.
@140,096 (TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k)
Do it faggot.
TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #140,115
@140,107 (Syntax)
Holy shit I needed 3 runs through that pile of crap you shit through your keyboard to get what you meant hahahaha
But yes, it's true, could be hilarious and actually set me apart :D
@previous (Ks !KansasxqvM)
I'll do it as soon as I'll be looking for a new job... might earlier, but only if I run out of pick up lines... :D
Holy shit I needed 3 runs through that pile of crap you shit through your keyboard to get what you meant hahahaha
But yes, it's true, could be hilarious and actually set me apart :D
@previous (Ks !KansasxqvM)
I'll do it as soon as I'll be looking for a new job... might earlier, but only if I run out of pick up lines... :D
Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #140,117
@140,108 (Ks !KansasxqvM)
You just reminded me of something. I have a couple three friends that are members of a nation wide group, that probably are down with this Flat Earth role play. Creative Anachronism Society. They go out on weekends or more and dress up in costume of middle ages and play games and make paper the old way etc. Talk the old English.
@previous (TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k)
In my work back in Managing years, I looked at resumes from CPA's Attorneys Engineers Accountants and everything it took to run a company. That setting apart, something that catches the eye is very important. Problem is one can never be sure were to place it. Do they see the top middle or bottom and given eyes of You or me catch different things, its not easy
I have a much to long story to tell about how I got one of the best ever gigs EVER. Bottom line is/was
It was NOT my resume that did the trick. It was my cover letter. Computer was looking for key words and the key word for the job they had in mind was NOT in my resume. It was in my cover letter. Nor did I even know that until moments after I was hired. Then had the nerve to ask some questions like --- May I see the resume you have.
I should point out that I produced 100's of versions of my resume with cutapasta. Custom resume based on the add.
That works real good. Cover letters the same
You just reminded me of something. I have a couple three friends that are members of a nation wide group, that probably are down with this Flat Earth role play. Creative Anachronism Society. They go out on weekends or more and dress up in costume of middle ages and play games and make paper the old way etc. Talk the old English.
@previous (TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k)
In my work back in Managing years, I looked at resumes from CPA's Attorneys Engineers Accountants and everything it took to run a company. That setting apart, something that catches the eye is very important. Problem is one can never be sure were to place it. Do they see the top middle or bottom and given eyes of You or me catch different things, its not easy
I have a much to long story to tell about how I got one of the best ever gigs EVER. Bottom line is/was
It was NOT my resume that did the trick. It was my cover letter. Computer was looking for key words and the key word for the job they had in mind was NOT in my resume. It was in my cover letter. Nor did I even know that until moments after I was hired. Then had the nerve to ask some questions like --- May I see the resume you have.
I should point out that I produced 100's of versions of my resume with cutapasta. Custom resume based on the add.
That works real good. Cover letters the same
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FreeCode !!4IKKtS9GG joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 7 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #140,549
@OP
I do not need to fly around the Earth to know that is not flat and I do not need to see your drool bib to know you are retarded.
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I do not need to fly around the Earth to know that is not flat and I do not need to see your drool bib to know you are retarded.
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Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #140,551
@previous (FreeCode !!4IKKtS9GG)
Long ago around 1999 on the net there was a contest. Question was can you prove 2+2= something other then 4.0
About 20 people took part in that game and I won, but do not remember how I went about it. So a few moments ago I put this to the web Google 2+2=5 and it relates to this topic.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2_%2B_2_%3D_5
The phrase "two plus two equals five" ("2 + 2 = 5") is a slogan used in George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four[1] as an example of an obviously false dogma one must believe, similar to other obviously false slogans by the Party in the novel. It is contrasted with the phrase "two plus two makes four", the obvious—but politically inexpedient—truth. Orwell's protagonist, Winston Smith, uses the phrase to wonder if the State might declare "two plus two equals five" as a fact; he ponders whether, if everybody believes in it, does that make it true? Smith writes, "Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows." Later in the novel, Smith attempts to use doublethink to teach himself that the statement "2 + 2 = 5" is true, or at least as true as any other answer one could come up with.
Eventually, while undergoing electroshock torture, Winston declared that he saw five fingers when in fact he only saw four ("Four, five, six — in all honesty I don't know"). The Inner Party interrogator of thought-criminals, O'Brien, says of the mathematically false statement that control over physical reality is unimportant; so long as one controls their own perceptions to what the Party wills, then any corporeal act is possible, in accordance with the principles of doublethink ("Sometimes they are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once").
Long ago around 1999 on the net there was a contest. Question was can you prove 2+2= something other then 4.0
About 20 people took part in that game and I won, but do not remember how I went about it. So a few moments ago I put this to the web Google 2+2=5 and it relates to this topic.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2_%2B_2_%3D_5
The phrase "two plus two equals five" ("2 + 2 = 5") is a slogan used in George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four[1] as an example of an obviously false dogma one must believe, similar to other obviously false slogans by the Party in the novel. It is contrasted with the phrase "two plus two makes four", the obvious—but politically inexpedient—truth. Orwell's protagonist, Winston Smith, uses the phrase to wonder if the State might declare "two plus two equals five" as a fact; he ponders whether, if everybody believes in it, does that make it true? Smith writes, "Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows." Later in the novel, Smith attempts to use doublethink to teach himself that the statement "2 + 2 = 5" is true, or at least as true as any other answer one could come up with.
Eventually, while undergoing electroshock torture, Winston declared that he saw five fingers when in fact he only saw four ("Four, five, six — in all honesty I don't know"). The Inner Party interrogator of thought-criminals, O'Brien, says of the mathematically false statement that control over physical reality is unimportant; so long as one controls their own perceptions to what the Party wills, then any corporeal act is possible, in accordance with the principles of doublethink ("Sometimes they are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once").
Born this Way !dLadyGAgAA joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 34 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #140,562
@138,538 (Unintentional Jackass !LASXURl1b6)
> I shoot an arrow at a tree, it hits it. If the earth was flat, it would fall to the ground because of gravity. But because the earth is round, it keeps going along despite gravity because it is actually getting further from the ground level that it started.
Wait what? Are you serious?
> I shoot an arrow at a tree, it hits it. If the earth was flat, it would fall to the ground because of gravity. But because the earth is round, it keeps going along despite gravity because it is actually getting further from the ground level that it started.
Wait what? Are you serious?
FreeCode !!4IKKtS9GG replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #140,565
@140,551 (Syntax)
I believe such self-delusion is a form of lip service. One may say and even think that "2+2=5" until the day they die, and yet they use basic mathematics consciously. The economy would collapse if every 2+2 transaction netted 5 Rubles, etc.
I believe such self-delusion is a form of lip service. One may say and even think that "2+2=5" until the day they die, and yet they use basic mathematics consciously. The economy would collapse if every 2+2 transaction netted 5 Rubles, etc.
Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 27 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #140,573
@previous (FreeCode !!4IKKtS9GG)
Sure and you and I live in the real world. For the most part its linear. Einstein has a lot to say about linear vs curves /Earth/Cosmos/
As a hobby only, I have been trying to get me around string theory math.
[itex]= (d/dPhi)( <\phi,Qphi> + <\phi,[\phi,\phi]> + <\phi,[\phi,\phi,\phi]> + .[/itex].. )
This is out of one book on the subject for just the equation of motion of closed string field theory and it looks simple enough until one has to learn how to merge it d/dtau|ψ>=Tr Sum i ,j[P i P i −[X i ,X j ]−λ Gamma0 Γ i [X i ,λ]]|ψ>...
Ends up in lines after lines as if almost computer code with values that go nowhere much like solving a matrices with massive answers that are really out of this world useless - at least for me until I can get a better feel for Quantum Physics.
All this boils down to the 11 possible alternate planes that exist, at least in current theory.
And in more then one of those planes the universality may not be linear as we know it. Can 2+2= other then 5? The scientist that wrote this thinks so - if you begin to follow
" The reason we have 9 fields, or 9 matrices, even though M-theory is 11-dimensional, is because this theory describes M-theory in the "light-cone frame" or "infinite momentum frame", where you're moving so fast in a particular direction that this direction effectively disappears from consideration, because of relativistic length contraction. (There's probably a more technically correct explanation in terms of "Wigner's little group" in 11 dimensions, but I always put off studying this particular approach to string theory.)
And that is wayyyy beyond where I am at currently when it comes to using the math to agree with his text and that guy teaches the math. Its also what Einstein failed at re not being able to find the field unification theory which is the basis for string theory.
2+2 can equal other then 4.0 but doooon't be asking me to prove it with valid math.
Sure and you and I live in the real world. For the most part its linear. Einstein has a lot to say about linear vs curves /Earth/Cosmos/
As a hobby only, I have been trying to get me around string theory math.
[itex]= (d/dPhi)( <\phi,Qphi> + <\phi,[\phi,\phi]> + <\phi,[\phi,\phi,\phi]> + .[/itex].. )
This is out of one book on the subject for just the equation of motion of closed string field theory and it looks simple enough until one has to learn how to merge it d/dtau|ψ>=Tr Sum i ,j[P i P i −[X i ,X j ]−λ Gamma0 Γ i [X i ,λ]]|ψ>...
Ends up in lines after lines as if almost computer code with values that go nowhere much like solving a matrices with massive answers that are really out of this world useless - at least for me until I can get a better feel for Quantum Physics.
All this boils down to the 11 possible alternate planes that exist, at least in current theory.
And in more then one of those planes the universality may not be linear as we know it. Can 2+2= other then 5? The scientist that wrote this thinks so - if you begin to follow
" The reason we have 9 fields, or 9 matrices, even though M-theory is 11-dimensional, is because this theory describes M-theory in the "light-cone frame" or "infinite momentum frame", where you're moving so fast in a particular direction that this direction effectively disappears from consideration, because of relativistic length contraction. (There's probably a more technically correct explanation in terms of "Wigner's little group" in 11 dimensions, but I always put off studying this particular approach to string theory.)
And that is wayyyy beyond where I am at currently when it comes to using the math to agree with his text and that guy teaches the math. Its also what Einstein failed at re not being able to find the field unification theory which is the basis for string theory.
2+2 can equal other then 4.0 but doooon't be asking me to prove it with valid math.