Topic: is black panther the first not racist disney movie?
Captain Kate Carr started this discussion 7 years ago #79,688
i think it is
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later[^] [v] #928,310
Nope. Disney Bambi. 0 Racist.
Captain Kate Carr (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 6 minutes later, 8 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #928,311
Anonymous B replied with this 7 years ago, 5 minutes later, 13 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #928,314
Captain Kate Carr (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 10 minutes later, 24 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #928,321
Captain Kate Carr (OP) double-posted this 7 years ago, 15 seconds later, 24 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #928,322
fao fora: do NOT watch ant-man and the wasp it is a terrible movie
Syntax replied with this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later, 29 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #928,325
@928,321 (Captain Kate Carr)
Now what I do not get is why U an open Racist wood even bring up the topic of
black panther the first not racist disney movie?
R U unhappy that Disney wood make a black cast movie?
Now what I do not get is why U an open Racist wood even bring up the topic of
black panther the first not racist disney movie?
R U unhappy that Disney wood make a black cast movie?
Captain Kate Carr (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 32 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #928,326
Syntax replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 33 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #928,328
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 9 minutes later, 42 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #928,332
In a few decades we may see Black Panther as racist
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Captain Kate Carr (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 9 minutes later, 52 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #928,341
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Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #928,356
@928,342 (Captain Kate Carr)
Its set in Africa and very Africa centric from the costumes to the music. But the actors aren't African, they are American black.
Probably so are the writers
Its set in Africa and very Africa centric from the costumes to the music. But the actors aren't African, they are American black.
Probably so are the writers
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Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #928,358
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 33 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #928,365
I thought black panther was rubbish. Lots of unnecessary shit in the script, and bad CGI that looks so low budget in places. A super advanced society that chooses its leader via bongo drum death match, and so an outsider comes in and instantly and totally changes the values of the society and everyone goes along with it... I'm not buying it.
Just a really average movie, mostly predictable, and not what the critics say it is. Everyone went full sjw and no one is allowed to say bad things about the black people movie, because racisme
Just a really average movie, mostly predictable, and not what the critics say it is. Everyone went full sjw and no one is allowed to say bad things about the black people movie, because racisme
Captain Kate Carr (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #928,366
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Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #928,372
Mr. Ray Parker Jr. replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #928,373
@928,367 (Captain Kate Carr)
> Yeah it was good for a marvel movie but not by any other standard
@previous (F)
> Ant-Man and the Wasp was far better than black panther.
superhero movies are all shit
> Yeah it was good for a marvel movie but not by any other standard
@previous (F)
> Ant-Man and the Wasp was far better than black panther.
superhero movies are all shit
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 39 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #928,375
Captain Kate Carr (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 1 hour later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #928,421
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Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 5 hours later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #928,537
@previous (Captain Kate Carr)
Because their perspective will always be skewed. Also, they are taking away jobs that could be done by people of color and people with the actual lived experiences
Because their perspective will always be skewed. Also, they are taking away jobs that could be done by people of color and people with the actual lived experiences
Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #928,540
The villain of the film could be seen as a racist stereotype.
Captain Kate Carr (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 9 hours later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #928,718
@928,537 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
What actual lived experience you know wakanda is not a real country right
What actual lived experience you know wakanda is not a real country right
Captain Kate Carr (OP) double-posted this 7 years ago, 25 seconds later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #928,719
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Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 5 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #928,782
Mr. Ray Parker Jr. replied with this 7 years ago, 26 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #928,797
@928,718 (Captain Kate Carr)
> What actual lived experience you know wakanda is not a real country right
lol
> What actual lived experience you know wakanda is not a real country right
lol
Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #928,864
@928,718 (Captain Kate Carr)
> What actual lived experience you know wakanda is not a real country right
Wakanda is what happens when some white guys look at a few African countries, stereotype them all together and then write a comic. The black panther movie is what happens when you hire black Americans to be these African stereotypes and they try to black it up for the cameras to get street cred, instead of writing a good script.
> What actual lived experience you know wakanda is not a real country right
Wakanda is what happens when some white guys look at a few African countries, stereotype them all together and then write a comic. The black panther movie is what happens when you hire black Americans to be these African stereotypes and they try to black it up for the cameras to get street cred, instead of writing a good script.
Captain Kate Carr (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 17 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #928,878
Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #928,882
@previous (Captain Kate Carr)
Everything about wakanda that looks "African" and their traditions that seem "African"
Everything about wakanda that looks "African" and their traditions that seem "African"
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 17 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #928,888
Is The Little Mermaid racist?
Captain Kate Carr (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #928,889
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@928,894 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
So much of it is just a little off. I don't know how much comes from the comic and how much was the director and art director but there's the movie, and then there's some injected parody of "African culture" and then back to the movie.
You know when movie franchises have an odd character bought back for a cameo, in a scene that makes little sense to have in the movie, doesn't advanve the plot or anything but fans love it? This is Africa fan service for black Americans, by white Americans.
It just misses the mark with me.
So much of it is just a little off. I don't know how much comes from the comic and how much was the director and art director but there's the movie, and then there's some injected parody of "African culture" and then back to the movie.
You know when movie franchises have an odd character bought back for a cameo, in a scene that makes little sense to have in the movie, doesn't advanve the plot or anything but fans love it? This is Africa fan service for black Americans, by white Americans.
It just misses the mark with me.
Captain Kate Carr (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #928,907
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 11 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #928,921
Anonymous J replied with this 7 years ago, 56 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #928,923
Captain Kate Carr (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #928,957
Captain Kate Carr (OP) double-posted this 7 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #928,959
So apparently Disney hasn't made their first non racist movie yet
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #928,961
Captain Kate Carr (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 22 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #928,963
@928,888 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I have not seen the little mermaid in a long time but a lot of Disney stuff has some pretty racist characters
I have not seen the little mermaid in a long time but a lot of Disney stuff has some pretty racist characters
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 3 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #928,964
Captain Kate Carr (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #928,965
@928,961 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Did you not mean the name is bad because it was also used by the group? Why is the name black panther bad
Did you not mean the name is bad because it was also used by the group? Why is the name black panther bad
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #928,968
@previous (Captain Kate Carr)
Because gave called the only black super hero the word black in his name
Because gave called the only black super hero the word black in his name
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC double-posted this 7 years ago, 36 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #928,969
Captain Kate Carr (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 54 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #928,970
Captain Kate Carr (OP) double-posted this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #928,972
@928,969 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I think those hyenas are pretty racist though I have also not seen the lion king in a long time
I think those hyenas are pretty racist though I have also not seen the lion king in a long time
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #928,974
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Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #928,978
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Kook !!rcSrAtaAC triple-posted this 7 years ago, 18 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #928,980
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC quadruple-posted this 7 years ago, 18 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #928,981
Is Beauty and the Beast racist?
Captain Kate Carr (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 33 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #928,983
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 29 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #928,984
Captain Kate Carr (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 26 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #928,985
@928,981 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Are you going to go through every Disney movie and ask if it's racist or not??
Are you going to go through every Disney movie and ask if it's racist or not??
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 48 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #928,986
@928,983 (Captain Kate Carr)
They call attention to his blackness like its a thing to be noted. Black people are just as common and normal as white people and white super heroes don't have white in their names
They call attention to his blackness like its a thing to be noted. Black people are just as common and normal as white people and white super heroes don't have white in their names
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC double-posted this 7 years ago, 17 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #928,987
@928,985 (Captain Kate Carr)
> Are you going to go through every Disney movie and ask if it's racist or not??
Yes
> Are you going to go through every Disney movie and ask if it's racist or not??
Yes
Captain Kate Carr (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 28 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #928,988
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 34 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #928,990
@previous (Captain Kate Carr)
Because I am testing your topic for truthfulness and accuracy
Because I am testing your topic for truthfulness and accuracy
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Captain Kate Carr (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 40 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #928,991
@928,986 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> They call attention to his blackness like its a thing to be noted.
Yes it is to be noted because black panther is about race and being black
> They call attention to his blackness like its a thing to be noted.
Yes it is to be noted because black panther is about race and being black
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 50 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #928,992
@previous (Captain Kate Carr)
If the black panther is about being black than every other super hero is about being white
If the black panther is about being black than every other super hero is about being white
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Kook !!rcSrAtaAC double-posted this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #928,993
If you had a group of friends and their names were Jim, John, Randy, but the black friend you call Black Pete, that would be racist
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Captain Kate Carr (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 43 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #928,994
@928,992 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
No black panther has commentary about the black experience. Race isn't brought up in most superhero movies, even the ones with black main characters
No black panther has commentary about the black experience. Race isn't brought up in most superhero movies, even the ones with black main characters
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #928,996
@previous (Captain Kate Carr)
White people made a black character based on African stereotypes and put black in his name. That sounds racist to me and "othering"
White people made a black character based on African stereotypes and put black in his name. That sounds racist to me and "othering"
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC double-posted this 7 years ago, 39 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #928,997
Is Sleeping Beauty racist?
Captain Kate Carr (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #928,999
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 47 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #929,002
Captain Kate Carr (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #929,005
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Ok well I do not think it is racist for white people to call a black character black
Ok well I do not think it is racist for white people to call a black character black
Captain Kate Carr (OP) double-posted this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #929,007
This is pretty racistKook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 8 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #929,008
@929,005 (Captain Kate Carr)
You never met a black person who wasn't a white guy smeared with shoe polish
You never met a black person who wasn't a white guy smeared with shoe polish
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Kook !!rcSrAtaAC double-posted this 7 years ago, 38 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #929,009
Captain Kate Carr (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 7 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #929,010
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Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 47 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #929,012
@929,010 (Captain Kate Carr)
You read what I wrote. You don't know any black people. You have grown up seeing whites wearing blackface as a holiday institution
You read what I wrote. You don't know any black people. You have grown up seeing whites wearing blackface as a holiday institution
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC double-posted this 7 years ago, 23 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #929,014
Captain Kate Carr (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #929,017
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Because it's a racist character in a Disney movie like what this topic is about
@929,012 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I do though
Because it's a racist character in a Disney movie like what this topic is about
@929,012 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I do though
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #929,019
Captain Kate Carr (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 28 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #929,020
Also you seem to be arguing that black panther is racist but the racial caricatures found in many Disney classics are not
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #929,023
@previous (Captain Kate Carr)
Oh no they are racist. I am arguing that non racist Disney movies have existed before Black Panther and that Black Panther is problematic
Oh no they are racist. I am arguing that non racist Disney movies have existed before Black Panther and that Black Panther is problematic
Captain Kate Carr (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #929,029
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Oh well you may have taken this topic title more literal than I intended then
I do not think black panther is problematic and nobody seems to have a problem with it besides it being not a great movie
Oh well you may have taken this topic title more literal than I intended then
I do not think black panther is problematic and nobody seems to have a problem with it besides it being not a great movie
Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 58 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #929,083
Anonymous L replied with this 7 years ago, 3 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #929,131
@928,996 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> White people made a black character based on African stereotypes and put black in his name. That sounds racist to me and "othering"
I'm pretty sure your definition of racism is just anything that makes you think about race.
> White people made a black character based on African stereotypes and put black in his name. That sounds racist to me and "othering"
I'm pretty sure your definition of racism is just anything that makes you think about race.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 35 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #929,159
@previous (L)
I'm pretty sure that you're wrong
An example: I didn't find Luke Cage to be racist and it definitely tackles race.
I'm pretty sure that you're wrong
An example: I didn't find Luke Cage to be racist and it definitely tackles race.
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Kook !!rcSrAtaAC double-posted this 7 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #929,163
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Anonymous L replied with this 7 years ago, 24 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #929,172
@929,159 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
@929,163 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Fair enough. What are those doing differently with racial stereotypes that doesn't offend your sensibilities? Are they still "othering" by pointing out differences?
@929,163 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Fair enough. What are those doing differently with racial stereotypes that doesn't offend your sensibilities? Are they still "othering" by pointing out differences?
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 10 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #929,176
ninjjworks joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 13 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #929,180
ugh everything is just terrible and underwhelming
Anonymous L replied with this 7 years ago, 20 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #929,181
@929,176 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
But why? How are they different? What is the difference that makes one okay and one racist to you?
But why? How are they different? What is the difference that makes one okay and one racist to you?
Mr. Ray Parker Jr. replied with this 7 years ago, 15 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #929,185
@929,008 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> You never met a black person who wasn't a white guy smeared with shoe polish
probably true
i feel like all dutch are racist
> You never met a black person who wasn't a white guy smeared with shoe polish
probably true
i feel like all dutch are racist
Mr. Ray Parker Jr. double-posted this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #929,186
@929,023 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> Oh no they are racist. I am arguing that non racist Disney movies have existed before Black Panther and that Black Panther is problematic
woke kook
> Oh no they are racist. I am arguing that non racist Disney movies have existed before Black Panther and that Black Panther is problematic
woke kook
Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 30 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #929,187
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Captain Kate Carr (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #929,201
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 8 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #929,339
@929,181 (L)
One is black people telling their own life stories, and the other is white people using their ideas of Africa to create a culture that hits bingo drums, wears animal pelts, and giant beads and calls the only black super hero, "black" panther. I simply can't explain further. Either you understand or you don't.
One is black people telling their own life stories, and the other is white people using their ideas of Africa to create a culture that hits bingo drums, wears animal pelts, and giant beads and calls the only black super hero, "black" panther. I simply can't explain further. Either you understand or you don't.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC double-posted this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #929,341
@929,185 (Mr. Ray Parker Jr.)
Right? How can a guy who lives in one of the most homogenous societies, decide what is racist? Black face is their Christmas tradition.
Right? How can a guy who lives in one of the most homogenous societies, decide what is racist? Black face is their Christmas tradition.
Captain Kate Carr (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 47 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #929,342
@929,339 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
But black panther was made by black people and bongos and animal pelts are all part of African tribal life
But black panther was made by black people and bongos and animal pelts are all part of African tribal life
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #929,352
@previous (Captain Kate Carr)
Show me where its made by black people? The idea was created by white people.
Also the idea that a futuristic society would wear those things is laughable. White people use to do such things, but we don't make our white super heroes do them or put "white" on front of all super hero names.
It would be like if we had an Asian super hero and we called him Chinese Charlie, and everyone of his people wore coolie hats and they use that "oriental" style writing for his font.
Show me where its made by black people? The idea was created by white people.
Also the idea that a futuristic society would wear those things is laughable. White people use to do such things, but we don't make our white super heroes do them or put "white" on front of all super hero names.
It would be like if we had an Asian super hero and we called him Chinese Charlie, and everyone of his people wore coolie hats and they use that "oriental" style writing for his font.
Captain Kate Carr (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 20 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #929,353
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #929,355
Captain Kate Carr (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #929,361
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
No it's based on a character created by white people. The story is based on more recent black panther comics which were afaik mostly written by black people
No it's based on a character created by white people. The story is based on more recent black panther comics which were afaik mostly written by black people
Captain Kate Carr (OP) double-posted this 7 years ago, 45 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #929,362
Also what's racist about having black people play bongos lol black people do play bongos
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #929,368
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC double-posted this 7 years ago, 45 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #929,369
@929,362 (Captain Kate Carr)
You think that the average black person bangs bingo drums and wears pelts?
You think that the average black person bangs bingo drums and wears pelts?
Captain Kate Carr (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 21 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,375
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
No I do not do you think wakandans are supposed to be average black people
No I do not do you think wakandans are supposed to be average black people
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,378
@previous (Captain Kate Carr)
They are an advanced race who are also primitive. America has a history of showing black people as being primitive.
They are an advanced race who are also primitive. America has a history of showing black people as being primitive.
Captain Kate Carr (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,381
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,384
Mr. Ray Parker Jr. replied with this 7 years ago, 31 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,397
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,401
Captain Kate Carr (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,403
I took djembé lessons when I was like 10
I was not very good
I was not very good
Mr. Ray Parker Jr. replied with this 7 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,405
@929,401 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I just like saying 'bingo bongo'
@previous (Captain Kate Carr)
it's hard
I just like saying 'bingo bongo'
@previous (Captain Kate Carr)
it's hard
Mr. Ray Parker Jr. double-posted this 7 years ago, 26 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,406
like you do that thing where you make it go brrrrap
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 2 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,445
I didn't watch the movie but I did read this thread so now I'm an expert on it. It is extremely racist but also not racist and portrays black people well and also very poorly.
Captain Kate Carr (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 18 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,449
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
It is as much racial commentary one can reasonably expect from a blockbuster international superhero movie. Thanks.
It is as much racial commentary one can reasonably expect from a blockbuster international superhero movie. Thanks.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,450
Mr. Ray Parker Jr. replied with this 7 years ago, 9 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,452
Anonymous L replied with this 7 years ago, 26 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,466
@929,339 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> drums, animal pelts, and giant beads
Do you think just showing those things is racist? The way the movie tried to use those things as links to a cultural past was a little hamfisted, but I didn't see the inclusion of those things as being part of a plot that presented Wakanda or the people there as primitive. Wakanda is actually pretty technologically advanced.
Both the Wonder Woman and Thor movies had backstories that were a confusing mishmash of cultural symbols that mixed primitive myth and technological advancement. Did you find those films problematic?
> drums, animal pelts, and giant beads
Do you think just showing those things is racist? The way the movie tried to use those things as links to a cultural past was a little hamfisted, but I didn't see the inclusion of those things as being part of a plot that presented Wakanda or the people there as primitive. Wakanda is actually pretty technologically advanced.
Both the Wonder Woman and Thor movies had backstories that were a confusing mishmash of cultural symbols that mixed primitive myth and technological advancement. Did you find those films problematic?
Mr. Ray Parker Jr. replied with this 7 years ago, 16 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,471
Anonymous L replied with this 7 years ago, 29 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,479
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 7 years ago, 18 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,482
Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 16 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,484
@929,352 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> that "oriental" style writing for his font.
That font is called "Chop Suey" and is considered very honorable to use on formal paperwork with Asian business associates.
> that "oriental" style writing for his font.
That font is called "Chop Suey" and is considered very honorable to use on formal paperwork with Asian business associates.
Sheila LaBœf replied with this 7 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,485
@929,352 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> It would be like if we had an Asian super hero and we called him Chinese Charlie, and everyone of his people wore coolie hats and they use that "oriental" style writing for his font.
how about 'the yellow bullet'
> It would be like if we had an Asian super hero and we called him Chinese Charlie, and everyone of his people wore coolie hats and they use that "oriental" style writing for his font.
how about 'the yellow bullet'
Sheila LaBœf double-posted this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,487
or, the Oriental Ocelot
he's from the land of... The Orient
where... Chinese and Koreans and Japanese dress like it's the 18th century and all get along. also there's a lot of ninjas, Shaolin monks, idk K pop idols etc
he's from the land of... The Orient
where... Chinese and Koreans and Japanese dress like it's the 18th century and all get along. also there's a lot of ninjas, Shaolin monks, idk K pop idols etc
Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,490
Anonymous F double-posted this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,492
@929,487 (Sheila LaBœf)
Good idea. Get some Asian actors, and an Asian director. Totally hype for this authentic asian experience!
Good idea. Get some Asian actors, and an Asian director. Totally hype for this authentic asian experience!
Kook !!IucbNnSps replied with this 7 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,496
@previous (F)
> Good idea. Get some Asian actors, and an Asian director. Totally hype for this authentic asian experience!
wait, isn't that just crazy rich Asians?
> Good idea. Get some Asian actors, and an Asian director. Totally hype for this authentic asian experience!
wait, isn't that just crazy rich Asians?
Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,498
Kook !!IucbNnSps replied with this 7 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,499
@previous (F)
It was a big deal. Apparently the island Asians, didn't like it as much as the American Asians.
It was a big deal. Apparently the island Asians, didn't like it as much as the American Asians.
Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,504
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 7 years ago, 8 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,505
@929,499 (Kook !!IucbNnSps)
Oh God first the island blacks now the island Asians. What are island Asians?
Oh God first the island blacks now the island Asians. What are island Asians?
Kook !!IucbNnSps replied with this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,508
Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 19 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,509
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,517
@929,508 (Kook !!IucbNnSps)
Singapore is an island in the sense that Manhattan is an island. It's not like Guam or the phillipines or Indonesia.
@previous (F)
Those are NOT ISLANDS. DO NOT TROLL ME.
Singapore is an island in the sense that Manhattan is an island. It's not like Guam or the phillipines or Indonesia.
@previous (F)
Those are NOT ISLANDS. DO NOT TROLL ME.
Kook !!IucbNnSps replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,520
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
It's an island, and they have merlions. A merlion is not a continental mascot.
It's an island, and they have merlions. A merlion is not a continental mascot.
Captain Kate Carr (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,525
Captain Kate Carr (OP) double-posted this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,526
FAO Kook: are you an sjw now?
Mr. Ray Parker Jr. replied with this 7 years ago, 41 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,527
Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,530
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 3 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,624
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC double-posted this 7 years ago, 30 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,625
The Kook talking about crazy rich Asians isn't me. Thanks
Anonymous L replied with this 7 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,671
@929,624 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> It isn't racist because we don't use those things as a way to oppress white people
Do you think bongo drums are responsible for oppressing black people?
I get that maybe drums remind you of racist cartoons or something, but that's an association you have to make in your own head. The movie doesn't do it for you. You really have to take the drums and the costuming out of the context of the movie and read in your own prejudices for that to feel oppressive. A lot of people saw the movie as a celebration of liberation and self-autonomy without getting too hung up on pelts or giant beads.
> It isn't racist because we don't use those things as a way to oppress white people
Do you think bongo drums are responsible for oppressing black people?
I get that maybe drums remind you of racist cartoons or something, but that's an association you have to make in your own head. The movie doesn't do it for you. You really have to take the drums and the costuming out of the context of the movie and read in your own prejudices for that to feel oppressive. A lot of people saw the movie as a celebration of liberation and self-autonomy without getting too hung up on pelts or giant beads.
Dead !Pool..v42s joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 32 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,675
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,676
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC double-posted this 7 years ago, 34 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,677
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC triple-posted this 7 years ago, 11 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,682
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC quadruple-posted this 7 years ago, 17 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,683
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC quintuple-posted this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,684
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC sextuple-posted this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,685
Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 51 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,689
Anonymous L replied with this 7 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,690
@previous (F)
I guess Kook did. Now she's trying to cram some Dutch story into her racist preconceptions too. Some people's kids, huh?
I guess Kook did. Now she's trying to cram some Dutch story into her racist preconceptions too. Some people's kids, huh?
Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,691
@previous (L)
There should be a sexy Zwarte Piet Halloween costume. Then people can complain about appropriating Dutch culture.
There should be a sexy Zwarte Piet Halloween costume. Then people can complain about appropriating Dutch culture.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 15 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,692
Captain Kate Carr (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,705
Captain Kate Carr (OP) double-posted this 7 years ago, 36 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,706
They have white ones now
Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,708
@929,705 (Captain Kate Carr)
Isn't he the one going down the chimney, and that's actually coal dust?
Isn't he the one going down the chimney, and that's actually coal dust?
Anonymous P joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 2 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,728
white superheroes do have their race in their comics... batMAN superMAN... it's right there in the name.
Captain Kate Carr (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 4 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,764
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 14 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,770
Captain Kate Carr (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 1 hour later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,795
Captain Kate Carr (OP) double-posted this 7 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,798
Captain Kate Carr (OP) triple-posted this 7 years ago, 16 seconds later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,799
No it's third
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 1 hour later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,823
Captain Kate Carr (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 2 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,869
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 1 hour later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,904
Captain Kate Carr (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 7 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #929,907
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I don't think this is an actual sentence in the English language but I'm pretty drunk so
I don't think this is an actual sentence in the English language but I'm pretty drunk so