Topic: There have been a lot of articles on Reddit today, about how Michael Jackson was innocent
Kook !!a6qjFG7HF started this discussion 7 years ago#78,103
I was unsure but leaning that way as well, then I found this site www.mjfacts.com
I read up on this shit and it seems like he was treating these boys like you would treat a girl you wanted to date. What do you think fora?
Meta !Sober//iZs joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 13 minutes later[^][v]#912,459
I really wonder what would have happened if he lived a bit longer into the #MeToo era.
I can't really get excited either way because I'm not a big Michael Jackson fan and I wasn't at any of the Neverland Ranch sleepovers and also he's been dead for some time now.
Meta !Sober//iZs double-posted this 7 years ago, 52 seconds later, 14 minutes after the original post[^][v]#912,461
I mean it wouldn't surprise me if he was a pedo but didn't some of the kids who attended the sleepovers defend him (thinking of Macaulay Culkin though I could be mistaken).
Kook !!a6qjFG7HF (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 58 seconds later, 15 minutes after the original post[^][v]#912,462
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
If you have time, please look at that website
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 14 seconds later, 15 minutes after the original post[^][v]#912,463
I like the conspiracy theory that he was chemically castrated by his parents early on in his life.
Kook !!a6qjFG7HF (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 33 seconds later, 16 minutes after the original post[^][v]#912,464
Sheila LaBoof joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 29 minutes later, 45 minutes after the original post[^][v]#912,474
boys are gross, every girl will tell you this
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 24 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#912,498
I was at several Neverland sleepovers.
Kook !!a6qjFG7HF (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#912,502
@previous (E)
Oh stop. You are setting up a situation where you're going to act gross
Anonymous E replied with this 7 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#912,509
@previous (Kook !!a6qjFG7HF)
No, really not. I really was at one as a kid. He did not molest me, though he did make me sleep in his bed, which felt weird. He hugged me while he slept, but he did not touch my peepee.
Kook !!a6qjFG7HF (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#912,513
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#912,516
The thing that strikes me as weird about all this, is the first child who accused Jackson. Why would Jackson settle out of court, have the family sign a non-disclosure, and pay them several million dollars if he was innocent?
cccuuunnttt !RwordOooFE joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#912,519
guilty as shit
Kook !!a6qjFG7HF (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#912,530
@912,516 (F)
Some people have said because the accusations happened during the time when he would be touring, and prevented it from happening, and that's how singers make most of their money
Kook !!a6qjFG7HF (OP) double-posted this 7 years ago, 16 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#912,531
@912,519 (cccuuunnttt !RwordOooFE)
Did you check out that site, Becky?
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 21 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#912,533
Kook !!a6qjFG7HF (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#912,537
@previous (cccuuunnttt !RwordOooFE)
You should. It is very interesting and eye opening. I cannot imagine a non pedophile acting the way that he acted towards young boys
Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 10 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#912,539
That explains settling out of court, but why the non-disclosure, and why pay them millions of dollars? I read somewhere that his fortune was valued in the billions at the time, so why would one tour matter so much?
Anonymous E replied with this 7 years ago, 25 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#912,540
@912,513 (Kook !!a6qjFG7HF)
One of my uncles is a Hollywood agent, who was friends with Mike's agent.
Anonymous H replied with this 7 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#912,544
@previous (E)
lol
'I GOT A NEPHEW'
'MIKE WOULD LOVE THAT'
Kook !!a6qjFG7HF (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 12 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#912,550
@912,539 (F)
Oh I believe he did do it. That's just what his defenders say
Kook !!a6qjFG7HF (OP) double-posted this 7 years ago, 30 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#912,551
@912,540 (E)
Hopefully your uncle wasn't setting something up
Anonymous E replied with this 7 years ago, 7 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#912,553
@previous (Kook !!a6qjFG7HF)
No no not at all. He just introduced me to Mike. Later, Mike asked my mom if I could do a sleepover. It was with lots of other kids too.
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 32 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#912,554
LOL Tell me that Michael Jackson trutherism is going to be the next online hobbyhorse for the conspiracy crowd.
Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#912,555
Anonymous I replied with this 7 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#912,564
@912,561 (Kook !!a6qjFG7HF)
I wonder if the sudden interest in MJ has anything to do with the recent news about the Catholic Church so easily covering up child sex abuse for years.
Kook !!a6qjFG7HF (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 9 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#912,567
@previous (I)
Some people think that they are about to release some remixed or digitally enhanced album of his
Anonymous C replied with this 7 years ago, 13 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#912,568
Kook !!a6qjFG7HF (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#912,572
@previous (C)
I am torn, because while he looks and sounds like he might have been castrated, some of his alleged victims claimed that he did get erections
Anonymous E replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#912,574
Odd, Jackson supposedly didn't like to have little girls around, because they were "tattle tales."
Kook !!a6qjFG7HF (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#912,577
@912,574 (E)
I'm surprised by that. Did they sleep in the bed as well?
Anonymous E replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#912,578
@previous (Kook !!a6qjFG7HF)
No. Only me and another boy slept in his actual bed. The rest of the kids slept in sleeping bags on the floor. It was actually really fun. We rode his rides, had pizza, watched movies...he really was like a little kid mentally.
Kook !!a6qjFG7HF (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 7 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#912,581
@previous (E)
He Didn't seem creepy at all? Were there any animals there?
Anonymous E replied with this 7 years ago, 13 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#912,584
@previous (Kook !!a6qjFG7HF)
I mean, I was pretty young, so I did not know about molesters and that kind of stuff. I did not see any animals. There was something weird, though. There was this other man who Mike called "The Captain". He was tall and thin, and wore a suit. Some other weird stuff happened with him.
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 7 years ago, 1 hour later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#912,591
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 25 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#912,953
MJ was innocent. It's popular nowadays to create hysterical witch hunts.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#912,955
@previous (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
I appreciate your consistency and commitment to your schtick.
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U replied with this 7 years ago, 21 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#912,965
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
It isn't schtick. Show me one piece of actual evidence that MJ was a nonce. I suspect all you'll find is harrumphing hearsay by the same media types who think it's awesome to sexualise the child-like aesthetic (Ariana Grande, Miley Cyrus et al). If MJ were actually raping/molesting kids at his Neverland ranch its proof would not require the piecing together of vague psychological clues from websites.
Anonymous J replied with this 7 years ago, 4 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#913,033
His shadow liked to move by itself when he wanted to be frightening. He once did it in a playroom when I was with Mike and he put himself between me and the captain in a hug telling me not to look.
Kook !!a6qjFG7HF (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#913,063
@previous (J)
That's really, really weird and creepy