Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 started this discussion 15 years ago#7,740
We're going to meet on Skype to discuss the books we read twice a month. Instead of doing one book per week, we're going to do two books every two weeks, so if you don't like one book you can just focus on the other, and two weeks gives plenty of time to read at your own pace or read both books if you're an avid reader.
The first book is going to be The Hobbit by JRR Tolkien. Please post some suggestions for the second book. We will all meet up in a Skype conference to discuss the books at some agreed upon time on July 2nd.
For the second cycle, the first book will be The Lord of the Rings by JRR Tolkien. I'll need another suggestion for a second book. We will discuss those 2 books on July 16th.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 29 minutes after the original post[^][v]#134,189
@previous (Nega !34Kas0OdzM)
OK, Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? will be discussed on July 2, and Flatland will be discussed on July 16. So right now it's The Hobbit and Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#134,218
@134,216 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
It failed before because everyone would suggest something different and no one could agree on a book to read, let alone a reading schedule. This is going to work because it's not going to be a democracy. A few people, including myself, will decide on the reading schedule. I'm open to suggestions but we'll make the final call, this way it stays organized. We do two books every two weeks so if you don't like one book you can just read the other. If you don't like either book, you don't have to follow the book club. I realize I won't be able to please everyone, so I'm not trying to. Instead I'm just trying to keep it consistent so whoever is cool with it sticks to it.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#134,223
@134,220 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
You're really shooting yourself in the foot here. Those books are very philosophically and intellectually stimulating. Perfect for a book club.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#134,225
@134,221 (H)
Not quite. I just put the two books that Nega suggested on the schedule, after all. But in the sense that it's not a democracy and a few people have final say, yes it is a dictartorship. I just explained why.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 9 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#134,229
@previous (I)
Because I liked Nega's suggestions, I like Nega, and he was the first to suggest something. Book Clubs are not democracies. If you don't like what we're reading, don't follow the book club. I'm not trying to make anyone follow it and I'm not trying to please everyone. If you make a serious suggestion and it seems like a book my peers and I are interested in, I will get it on the schedule, but I'm not bending over backwards to make the majority happy. If you want a democratic book club, try starting another for the 11th time and see what happens.
Sorry, but sometimes distatorships work. Take this website for example. They do what they can to please most of the people most of the time, but bottom line is the admins have final say. It's their site. I'm trying to do the same thing here.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 32 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#134,239
@134,231 (I)
Yeah, what's your point? It's not a democracy. Don't follow it if you don't like it. You haven't even made a suggestion yet, so I don't see what you're complaining about.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#134,243
@134,238 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
And I was being very serious when I said no, and equally serious when I said start a Thomas and Friends book club. I'm not putting children's books on the schedule.
Anonymous I replied with this 15 years ago, 35 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#134,244
I hereby announce my new MC+Skype Broseph's An Asshole Book Club. Anyone want to join? Our first selection will be chosen by the order they are received. :)
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 15 years ago, 33 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#134,246
@134,243 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
Animal Farm can be read as a children's book, but it still deals with deep philosophical and political issues. I urge you to reconsider you position on the Thomas and Friends series.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#134,251
@134,246 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx) > comparing Animal Farm to Thomas and Friends
Please just fucking stop. If you want to suggest Animal Farm, that's a good one. I'd be more than happy to work that into the schedule, but stop with the bullshit.
@previous (I)
Good for you. You just seem to be rebelling over nothing.
Anonymous I replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#134,253
@previous (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4) > Please just fucking stop. If you want to suggest Animal Farm, that's a good one. I'd be more than happy to work that into the schedule, but stop with the bullshit.
Why are you such a dick to everybody? Killer Lettuce was just trying to genuine offer suggestions and you're being a crass piece of shit to him.
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#134,255
@previous (I) > Why are you such a dick to everybody?
Because he has a gigantic fucking ego, is extremely full of himself, and he also always thinks that he's right. Oh and everything is super serious business to him.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#134,260
@134,251 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
They both deal with a similar concept. Animal Farm is about a society living under a harsh communist regime, while Thomas and Friends is about the harsh existence of the working-class trains under the greedy human regime.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 22 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#134,351
@134,300 (!poISOnioxc)
Right now, The Hobbit and Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep. We will discuss them on July 2. Then from the 2nd to the 16 we will read The Lord of the Rings and Flatland and we will discuss them on the 16th. Then we're going to read Bonk and another book that hasn't been decided on yet.
I look forward to your input. You're always interesting on Skype.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#134,459
@134,405 (Dr. Robotnik !.PINGasBaY)
Graphic novels are not out of the question, but they should be some of the best. I've been meaning to read The Watchmen. Any critically acclaimed graphic novels are good nominees.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 2 hours later, 14 hours after the original post[^][v]#134,813
OK, so the current schedule is:
The Hobbit by JRR Tolkien and/or Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep by Philip K. Dick. We will discuss these book on July 2nd. I made a Skype group, and we'll probably also make an IRC and a Tinychat, and a regular thread, or whatever, so people can discuss it through whichever means they prefer. I'm doing the Skype thing because I prefer audio and having actual verbal discussion over typing.
From July 2nd to July 16th we'll read The Lord of the Rings by JRR Tolkien and/or Flatland by Edwin A. Abbott. We'll discuss them on the 16th.
From the 16th to the 30th we'll read Bonk by Mary Roach and Alice's Adventures in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll.
From July 30th to August 13th we'll read Through the Looking Glass by Lewis Carroll and The Divine Comedy of Dante Alighieri.
I'm open to suggestions and open to adjusting the schedule, so let me know what you'd like to read. Also, post your Skype name if you'd like an invite to the Skype group.
Anonymous U joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 12 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#135,118
Dude, I hate to be a party pooper, but Dante's Divine Comedy is long as shit. You are not going to finish it in 15 days. Just the first part of it (there are three) is hundreds of pages long. And it's dense. Not exactly book club reading.
I would put money on the fact that no one finishes even just the Inferno between the dates you mentioned. In addition to that, each Canto is so loaded and full of meaning & symbolism that you'll miss important things if you try to discuss the work as a whole. If you're bent on reading the Diving Comedy, I suggest that you take it 5 cantos at a time or something.
Broseph (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 23 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#135,149
@134,239 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
Not really. I might be committing political suicide by saying this, and be accused of selling out, but here it goes: I want to get away from the Kimmo stylesheet altogether. I want to get away from the idea of being a chan altogether. I want to create a discussion board that is more like a social network than anything else. It would be like Facebook, with the focus being on the board and real discussion rather than it focusing on groups, likes, wall-posts, pokes, games, etc. It would give you the option to post anonymously rather than forcing you to register, but registering and having a profile would be an option. It would be like twitter, but would encourage intelligent conversation rather than 100 character "tweets" that seem to be dumbing down the nation. It would be like a blog, but people would actually care about it, because rather than being a blog in the sense that it's a single website about you, it's interactive and everyone is tied together through the social network. You could have a "friends" list, but it would be more like a list of favorite posters where you watch for their posts/threads, rather than a restrictive list. It will be like Facebook WAS, back when people actually joined groups and went into the discussion tab to have actual discussion, before they started putting ridiculous restrictions on groups and encouraging people to just "like" corporations instead and have you play mindless games so they can sell your information to advertisers. You'd still have the same freedom of speech, and be able to post anything from chan bullshit to legitimate reporters using it as a medium to post their news articles or blogs. It would be like youtube, but the focus would be on discussion rather than video, but the idea of it being user generated content is the same. Privacy would never be an issue, because you'd still have the option to post anonymously and no logging in would be required.
I warned you it was political suicide. I know some of you must think I'm joking and that I just don't get it. I know I probably sound like Kimmo several years ago, posting about stuff where it was obvious to everyone but him that only he thought his ideas were a good idea. The difference is, I'm not a sociopath, I don't want to do this because I think I deserve a billion dollars, I don't think it's guaranteed to be the next big thing, and I understand that it's not for everyone, so I have no intention of spamming my site all over the god damn place trying to attract attention from people who will obviously hate it. I just know there are a lot of people just like me out there who miss the old youtube, miss the old facebook, hate the teenage drama of myspace, and are sickened by the watered down content and pointless updates of twitter. There are people out there who love the free speech of blogs and chan sites, but hate the meaningless shit that fills most chans and the fact that most blogs are just people who only want to talk about themselves or think they're real reporters because they have a website. I know the internet market is already flooded with so many social networking and sharing sites that I might just be insane. Maybe I really am like Kimmo and I'm trying to reinvent the wheel just because there's not a site out there that's not EXACTLY what I want it to be. If that's the case, just say so. If there's a social networking site out there that's ridiculously close to what I'm describing here, just say so, and I'll leave you alone and I'll go there instead. I'm not going to be like Kimmo and go ahead with an idea when everyone tells me it's lame and refuse to take any advice and call anyone who disagree with me a troll, but if you read this and you feel the same way, if your're like me and feel like there are millions of people out there who feel the same way we do, if your're sick of settling for what's already out there and feel like the internet needs a new niche for everyone who is like us...
JOIN ME
Or don't because I realize that was a little over the top.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 44 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#135,171
@135,118 (U)
I've thought about that, and I though the same thing with the Lord of the Rings. I'll probably end up changing the schedules around to give people more time to read those books. I figure when we meet we'll discuss how far along everyone is and push other books back accordingly.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#135,358
@previous (ltamake !3vZ7A06glM)
Sure. We'll read it the same week we read "Go Fuck a Shit Up Your Ass." Seriosuly though, maybe sometime in August, yes.
Leo Vegas !gNoGoD5HzQ replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#135,926
@previous (sim !!VASLIRK6A)
Hey no way. The last time I was on skype was a couple nights ago when I was talking with Carebear. I haven't ignored you sweetheart.
> And I was being very serious when I said no, and equally serious when I said start a Thomas and Friends book club. I'm not putting children's books on the schedule.
@previous (dreamworks skg. llc) > Sorry, but sometimes distatorships work. Take this website for example. They do what they can to please most of the people most of the time, but bottom line is the admins have final say. It's their site. I'm trying to do the same thing here.