Topic: Do you support socialized healthcare?
Anonymous A started this discussion 15 years ago #7,663
I, for one, do not.
| Poll option | Votes | Percentage | Graph |
|---|---|---|---|
| Yes. | 14 | 70% | |
| No. | 6 | 30% |
protip !!pMmAiEwOm joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later[^] [v] #132,813
Sup, bitcoins?
!poISOnioxc joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 17 seconds later, 2 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #132,815
Why not, OP?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #132,819
@132,813 (protip !!pMmAiEwOm)
> Sup, bitcoins?
*clap clap*
Someday I'll be minding my own business, having a conversation downtown, and I'll hear this.
It's like I'm chipped.
@previous (!poISOnioxc)
Too easily abused. Don't punish those who take care of their health by forcing them to subsidize those who don't.
> Sup, bitcoins?
*clap clap*
Someday I'll be minding my own business, having a conversation downtown, and I'll hear this.
It's like I'm chipped.
@previous (!poISOnioxc)
Too easily abused. Don't punish those who take care of their health by forcing them to subsidize those who don't.
!poISOnioxc replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 7 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #132,824
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 20 seconds later, 8 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #132,826
Voice of !WisdomHsuU joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 21 seconds later, 8 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #132,827
Yes.
protip !!pMmAiEwOm replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 16 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #132,837
In the left corner: a too-stuffy wannabe-academic who takes libertarianism too far
In the right corner: a basement-dwelling racist-out-of-fear who picks and chooses libertarian ideals
Round One: FIGHT!
In the right corner: a basement-dwelling racist-out-of-fear who picks and chooses libertarian ideals
Round One: FIGHT!
nimj joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 54 seconds later, 17 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #132,840
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 44 seconds later, 18 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #132,842
@132,837 (protip !!pMmAiEwOm)
> In the right corner: a basement-dwelling racist
If I don't support socialized healthcare, I'm a racist?
> In the right corner: a basement-dwelling racist
If I don't support socialized healthcare, I'm a racist?
(Edited 7 minutes later.)
hamfist !!mtq555+/1 joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 38 minutes later, 56 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #132,884
protip !!pMmAiEwOm joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #132,896
DXMEOWTH joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 hours later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #133,014
No. You can thank lazy people, fat people, etc.
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #133,018
Syntax joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #133,023
Everyone I know who lives in a socialized healthcare country, complains about the quality of care.
Here in the USA are current system will bankrupt the country. Socialized healthcare, will do the same.
Our current system is driving far too many to the ER rooms as that's the only alternative.
USA is not solving very many problems very well. Education, health care, ability to provide good jobs and the list goes on and on.
I work for myself and have a small staff and provide a health plan and its very very costly. The proposed socialized healthcare Obama plan would save me money and end up messing up are solvency (not that we are solvent anyway)
Here in the USA are current system will bankrupt the country. Socialized healthcare, will do the same.
Our current system is driving far too many to the ER rooms as that's the only alternative.
USA is not solving very many problems very well. Education, health care, ability to provide good jobs and the list goes on and on.
I work for myself and have a small staff and provide a health plan and its very very costly. The proposed socialized healthcare Obama plan would save me money and end up messing up are solvency (not that we are solvent anyway)
Anonymous I replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #133,027
NHS FTW.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 3 hours later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #133,072
Handel !khEOdtKF56 joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #133,076
dreamworks joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 42 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #133,077
why is this a poll
Nega !34Kas0OdzM joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 19 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #133,086
Nickalollyoff !Aw0s40dyqw joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #133,105
Anonymous P joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 30 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #133,108
Anonymous Q joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 6 hours later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #133,471
Socialism is morally corrupt and an economic failure.
protip !!pMmAiEwOm joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 20 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #133,539
RonPaul2012 !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 15 years ago, 14 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #134,126
@previous (protip !!pMmAiEwOm)
Moral arguments:
All human interaction can be defined as consensual or unconsensual. Consensual acts respect and honor both parties and are to their mutual benefit. Unconsensual acts violate a person's rights (e.g. murder, theft, rape).
Stealing from someone is immoral (as it violates their consent); it is immaterial what one spends the stolen money on. Sane adults leave Robin Hood fairy tales to the children. To quote a 1st century philospher "Shall we do evil that good may result?" The answer is an emphatic NO!
Economic failure:
I have no argument here. Russia, China, India, Tanzania, Libya, Cuba, Cambodia, Vietnam and North Korea are shining examples of the economic superiority of socialism, while the relatively free markets of the USA languish in backwardness and misery.
Moral arguments:
All human interaction can be defined as consensual or unconsensual. Consensual acts respect and honor both parties and are to their mutual benefit. Unconsensual acts violate a person's rights (e.g. murder, theft, rape).
Stealing from someone is immoral (as it violates their consent); it is immaterial what one spends the stolen money on. Sane adults leave Robin Hood fairy tales to the children. To quote a 1st century philospher "Shall we do evil that good may result?" The answer is an emphatic NO!
Economic failure:
I have no argument here. Russia, China, India, Tanzania, Libya, Cuba, Cambodia, Vietnam and North Korea are shining examples of the economic superiority of socialism, while the relatively free markets of the USA languish in backwardness and misery.