Topic: squeegee re Impossible’ EmDrive thruster. Space unicorns are not your friend
Syntax started this discussion 8 years ago #75,624
Topic locked or I wood have updatedTopic: NASA confirms that the ‘impossible’ EmDrive thruster really works, after new tests
http://minichan.org/topic/47216
Bottom line is No it does NOT
https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/05/nasas-em-drive-is-a-magnetic-wtf-thruster/
WTF-thruster is a magnetic WTF-thruster
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Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 36 minutes later[^] [v] #891,550
The tests seem very thorough, which is what was needed. I disagree with the author that we need some other method than "testing them" to screen ideas, but I do believe he's probably correct that most "simple" machines have been discovered and that it's not likely that something this simple will lead to profound results, but I also disagree that our current understanding of physics is such that we can dismiss our of hand ideas as "silly" when there is a question as to if they even produce an effect.
Testing will always be the best way to determine if an idea, especially one that cant easily be disproved with simple experiments, will work.
Testing will always be the best way to determine if an idea, especially one that cant easily be disproved with simple experiments, will work.
Syntax (OP) replied with this 8 years ago, 21 minutes later, 57 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #891,559
@previous (B)
> physics is such that we can dismiss our of hand ideas as "silly" when there is a question as to if they even produce an effect.
I have a patent which was blocked by US Gov as potential use for secrete stuff and locked up. I discovered a odd problem in my ham radio equipment and discovered the what the problem was and then hit the text books to discover this could not occur by rules of physics - Turns out it did not occur but a secondary effect was the cause of the problem. Then it hit me that these two combined could be a solution to other problems and so I applied for a patent.
Since that time I have preformed many home experiments to exploit that discovery but currently think it will lead nowhere unless I spend more time in the Quantum world which is beyond my home lab capabilities -
> physics is such that we can dismiss our of hand ideas as "silly" when there is a question as to if they even produce an effect.
I have a patent which was blocked by US Gov as potential use for secrete stuff and locked up. I discovered a odd problem in my ham radio equipment and discovered the what the problem was and then hit the text books to discover this could not occur by rules of physics - Turns out it did not occur but a secondary effect was the cause of the problem. Then it hit me that these two combined could be a solution to other problems and so I applied for a patent.
Since that time I have preformed many home experiments to exploit that discovery but currently think it will lead nowhere unless I spend more time in the Quantum world which is beyond my home lab capabilities -
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 11 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #891,568
@previous (Syntax)
> I have a patent which was blocked by US Gov > I discovered a odd problem in my ham radio equipment
> then hit the text books to discover this could not occur by rules of physics
that time Syntax's ham radio broke physics and was subsequently confiscated by a 3-letter-agency
> I have a patent which was blocked by US Gov > I discovered a odd problem in my ham radio equipment
> then hit the text books to discover this could not occur by rules of physics
that time Syntax's ham radio broke physics and was subsequently confiscated by a 3-letter-agency
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 2 hours later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #891,623
@891,559 (Syntax)
> currently think it will lead nowhere unless I spend more time in the Quantum world
Please spend more time in the quantum world.
> currently think it will lead nowhere unless I spend more time in the Quantum world
Please spend more time in the quantum world.
Anonymous B replied with this 8 years ago, 4 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #891,624
@891,559 (Syntax)
Eh, send over your design specs and I'll see what I can come up with. I'm guessing you don't even have a laser inferometer set up.
Eh, send over your design specs and I'll see what I can come up with. I'm guessing you don't even have a laser inferometer set up.
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 33 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #891,625
Syntax (OP) replied with this 8 years ago, 2 hours later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #891,638
@891,624 (B)
> I'm guessing you don't even have a laser inferometer set up.
Accurate guess however around here that is easy access
@previous (E)
> That never happened.
What never happened?
> I'm guessing you don't even have a laser inferometer set up.
Accurate guess however around here that is easy access
@previous (E)
> That never happened.
What never happened?
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 11 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #891,643
@previous (Syntax)
Are you really telling us that your ham radio broke, and you opened it up, and you found something in it that literally defied physics, and a secret government organization stole it from you?
Are you really telling us that your ham radio broke, and you opened it up, and you found something in it that literally defied physics, and a secret government organization stole it from you?
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 3 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #891,645
Anonymous B replied with this 8 years ago, 50 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #891,646
@891,643 (F)
If you've never had the government steal and classify your groundbreaking patent then you'd find it unbelievable, but they stole my gasoline converter that let's cars run 400 miles a gallon.
If you've never had the government steal and classify your groundbreaking patent then you'd find it unbelievable, but they stole my gasoline converter that let's cars run 400 miles a gallon.
Syntax (OP) replied with this 8 years ago, 13 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #891,649
@891,643 (F)
I said
> I discovered a odd problem in my ham radio equipment and discovered the what the problem was and then hit the text books to discover this could not occur by rules of physics
And I stand by that. A part was doing something that Chemistry n Physic texts said could not happen and I had no reason to doubt that so I looked for the culprit - I found Nothing that defied known chemistry-physics - I did discover a principle that at that time was Unknown - However on deep inspection it was known and used in other important areas of physics and electronics - Just NEVER used to exploit what I had much fun building working models to do Stuff
Tried with the patent to list every application I could think of and applied for it - It got flagged as not to be published - If I had left out just one application it wood be pubic knowledge
If by chance you have any science background You wood understand Hall Effect as invented or is that discovered in 1879 - Of course Hall the inventor-discover never complicated Hall effect in ionized gases or magnetometers & Quantum Hall effect.
My discovery which is what it was and is now patented is much similar. Physic properties as provided by nature yet at the time unknown.
Symbiosis is what it really was. Trying to effect a property with a force yet that force could wood never effect the property. With Symbiosis it DOES
All that said I wood have never had a clue if not for a problem with the Ham radio as a system with a bug in it. Debugging that bug led me to the discovery
I said
> I discovered a odd problem in my ham radio equipment and discovered the what the problem was and then hit the text books to discover this could not occur by rules of physics
And I stand by that. A part was doing something that Chemistry n Physic texts said could not happen and I had no reason to doubt that so I looked for the culprit - I found Nothing that defied known chemistry-physics - I did discover a principle that at that time was Unknown - However on deep inspection it was known and used in other important areas of physics and electronics - Just NEVER used to exploit what I had much fun building working models to do Stuff
Tried with the patent to list every application I could think of and applied for it - It got flagged as not to be published - If I had left out just one application it wood be pubic knowledge
If by chance you have any science background You wood understand Hall Effect as invented or is that discovered in 1879 - Of course Hall the inventor-discover never complicated Hall effect in ionized gases or magnetometers & Quantum Hall effect.
My discovery which is what it was and is now patented is much similar. Physic properties as provided by nature yet at the time unknown.
Symbiosis is what it really was. Trying to effect a property with a force yet that force could wood never effect the property. With Symbiosis it DOES
All that said I wood have never had a clue if not for a problem with the Ham radio as a system with a bug in it. Debugging that bug led me to the discovery
cowboy squeegee joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 13 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #891,650
well tarnation, that's a damn shame, dagnabbit.