Topic: The Universe may only have one electron, traveling through time to create everything.
Anonymous A started this discussion 8 years ago #74,881
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-electron_universe
So in a sense, truly, everyone is Matt.
So in a sense, truly, everyone is Matt.
Syntax joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 39 minutes later[^] [v] #885,804
When one reads such illuminating theories one should look for a critique of such theory to really put some light on the subject.
When one does that one ends up reading
When one does that one ends up reading
For a single electron to account for all electrons in the universe, it needs to travel backwards through the universe exactly as many times as it travels forwards. That means, in this model, that there should be exactly as many positrons as there are electrons. We know that that simply isn't the case, and that matter completely and utterly dominates antimatter, which means the one electron universe can't be true.
Big Daddy Derek !Memes4aSuc joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #885,809
@previous (Syntax)
> When one reads such illuminating theories one should look for a critique of such theory to really put some light on the subject.
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> When one does that one ends up reading
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Hi, Matt!
> When one reads such illuminating theories one should look for a critique of such theory to really put some light on the subject.
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> When one does that one ends up reading
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For a single electron to account for all electrons in the universe, it needs to travel backwards through the universe exactly as many times as it travels forwards. That means, in this model, that there should be exactly as many positrons as there are electrons. We know that that simply isn't the case, and that matter completely and utterly dominates antimatter, which means the one electron universe can't be true.
Hi, Matt!
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 17 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #885,815
i bet that nigga tired af
Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 2 hours later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #885,832
@OP
Why haven't you created your own universe, praytell?
Why haven't you created your own universe, praytell?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 8 years ago, 3 hours later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #885,852
Anonymous B replied with this 8 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #885,854
@previous (A)
https://io9.gizmodo.com/5876966/what-if-every-electron-in-the-universe-was-all-the-same-exact-particle
https://io9.gizmodo.com/5876966/what-if-every-electron-in-the-universe-was-all-the-same-exact-particle
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 8 years ago, 58 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #885,855
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 8 years ago, 6 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #885,858
@885,854 (B)
Also if you read the entire article and not just the part that makes you feel right, it doesn't actually say what you think it does.
Also if you read the entire article and not just the part that makes you feel right, it doesn't actually say what you think it does.
Anonymous B replied with this 8 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #885,859
@885,855 (A)
I have multiple sources. Can you find a supporting source?
CRITICISM AND CONTROVERSY
1) The Missing Antimatter – Wheeler’s Universe would imply that there are an equal number of positrons as electrons – but there AREN’T! Many more electrons have been observed than positrons, and electrons are thought to comfortably outnumber them.
The Answer? According to Feynman he raised this issue with Wheeler, who speculated here that the missing positrons might be hidden within protons (via “Positron Capture”).
2) Stacking – So if there’s just one electron endlessly looping in time, wouldn’t that mean that each incarnation of the universe would be one electron larger than the previous? Wouldn’t the universe eventually thus overload with electrons travelling back in time?
3) Other properties of the electron – Electrons are also subject to decay. Wouldn’t the parade of reincarnated universes be getting both larger and less stable?
I have multiple sources. Can you find a supporting source?
CRITICISM AND CONTROVERSY
1) The Missing Antimatter – Wheeler’s Universe would imply that there are an equal number of positrons as electrons – but there AREN’T! Many more electrons have been observed than positrons, and electrons are thought to comfortably outnumber them.
The Answer? According to Feynman he raised this issue with Wheeler, who speculated here that the missing positrons might be hidden within protons (via “Positron Capture”).
2) Stacking – So if there’s just one electron endlessly looping in time, wouldn’t that mean that each incarnation of the universe would be one electron larger than the previous? Wouldn’t the universe eventually thus overload with electrons travelling back in time?
3) Other properties of the electron – Electrons are also subject to decay. Wouldn’t the parade of reincarnated universes be getting both larger and less stable?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 8 years ago, 2 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #885,860
@previous (B)
from your same source. thanks.
Does this mean that the positron is "really" an electron moving backward in time? No, that is only one physical interpretation of the "Feynman graphs"; other interpretations, just as valid, do not speak of time reversals. With the new experiments suggesting a mysterious unlocking of charge, parity, and time direction, however, the zigzag dance of Feynman's electron, as it traces its world line through space-time, no longer seems as bizarre a physical interpretation as it once did.
from your same source. thanks.
Anonymous B replied with this 8 years ago, 3 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #885,862
@previous (A)
You apparently missed this.
You apparently missed this.
The only way it would be possible for an electron to be both ‘here’ and ‘there’ at the same time is if, as Einstein liked to say, the separation between past, present, and future is an illusion.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 8 years ago, 2 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #885,863
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Indeed. Thank you. I, in fact, agree with Einstein, not some loser satellite TV repair man.
Indeed. Thank you. I, in fact, agree with Einstein, not some loser satellite TV repair man.
Anonymous B replied with this 8 years ago, 7 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #885,866
@previous (A)If you are having problems with your satellite TV, I suggest you check with neighbors for a better source.
This one is from another source:
Is there only one electron in the Universe?
I think this is a brilliant idea, especially if you like science fiction stories, but there’s a tiny problem with it in terms of science fact. In order for it to work there should be as many positrons in the Universe as there are electrons. Where are they?
I think this is a brilliant idea, especially if you like science fiction stories, but there’s a tiny problem with it in terms of science fact. In order for it to work there should be as many positrons in the Universe as there are electrons. Where are they?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 8 years ago, 3 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #885,867
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 7 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #885,868
@885,863 (A)
> Indeed. Thank you. I, in fact, agree with Einstein, not some loser satellite TV repair man.
lol
> Indeed. Thank you. I, in fact, agree with Einstein, not some loser satellite TV repair man.
lol
Anonymous B replied with this 8 years ago, 2 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #885,869
@885,867 (A)
That of course is a cop out. In our current observable Universe huge number of electrons are found and in the same universe it is rare to find positrons.
That of course is a cop out. In our current observable Universe huge number of electrons are found and in the same universe it is rare to find positrons.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 8 years ago, 22 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #885,875
Anonymous B replied with this 8 years ago, 7 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #885,876
@previous (A)Funny how when a Troll is boxed in they (You) resort to doltish replies.
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 8 years ago, 4 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #885,877
@previous (B)
You're the one who took a simple 'everyone is matt' joke seriously. Your precious positrons are in an uncharted region of space, go look for them there.
You're the one who took a simple 'everyone is matt' joke seriously. Your precious positrons are in an uncharted region of space, go look for them there.
Anonymous B replied with this 8 years ago, 10 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #885,878
@previous (A)
You mistake me for someone else. I cannot imagine why you paired "one electron, traveling through time to create everything." with any user of MC.
In any event the topic was interesting even if your intentions were unholy.
You mistake me for someone else. I cannot imagine why you paired "one electron, traveling through time to create everything." with any user of MC.
In any event the topic was interesting even if your intentions were unholy.
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 1 day later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #886,152
@885,854 (B)
@885,860 (A)
The answer is quite simple. Positrons appear to be extremely rare because we have no way of detecting objects moving backward in time.
@885,860 (A)
The answer is quite simple. Positrons appear to be extremely rare because we have no way of detecting objects moving backward in time.
Syntax replied with this 8 years ago, 9 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #886,219
@previous (G)
Yes indeed that is true. More true is that for John Wheeler's theory to be valid there wood be a mass of Positrons in our current time which are easy to detect and the fact is there are only rare Positrons detected.
Yes indeed that is true. More true is that for John Wheeler's theory to be valid there wood be a mass of Positrons in our current time which are easy to detect and the fact is there are only rare Positrons detected.
Anonymous G replied with this 8 years ago, 13 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #886,325
@previous (Syntax)
Maybe that's where all the "lost matter" is - traveling backwards in time towards the cosmic singularity.
Maybe that's where all the "lost matter" is - traveling backwards in time towards the cosmic singularity.
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #886,341
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The problem of missing mass is easily solved by looking at the other three corners from one of the different simultaneous days.
The problem of missing mass is easily solved by looking at the other three corners from one of the different simultaneous days.
Anonymous G replied with this 8 years ago, 15 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #886,571
Anonymous H replied with this 8 years ago, 4 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #886,626
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If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic corner days rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Earth, proving 4 Days, Creation is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor.
If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic corner days rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Earth, proving 4 Days, Creation is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor.