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stickybuns !bENfolDsOU started this discussion 15 years ago#7,469
Rick Santorum was talking about how pro-life he is (no abortions ever for any reason), yet he authorised an abortion for his wife in 1997.
They were talking about introducing amendments to the fucking Constitution making sure the homosex can never get married.
They were talking about getting right-wing judges in the courts. Funny, I thought the legal system was meant to be unbiased.
The whole thing was laughable. The only one keeping his foot out of his mouth was Ron Paul, and even he phrased his positions in ways that made him sound conservative.
Born this Way !dLadyGAgAA joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later[^][v]#130,364
Was Gary Johnson in it?
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 58 seconds later, 7 minutes after the original post[^][v]#130,365
I did not watch it, but to me, based on your interpretation, it sounds like Ron Paul is the clear winner of the debate. If he managed to not come off an insane, compared to the rest of the republican party, he may end up being chosen as the GOP's candidate.
Being fiscally conservative isn't bad at all, and well, that's how Ron Paul is conservative... he certainly can't be considered socially conservative, since he would do things such as legalize drugs.
Born this Way !dLadyGAgAA replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 11 minutes after the original post[^][v]#130,368
@previous (C)
But Republicans will choose their nominee, and the fact that a 16-year-old hipster thinks Ron Paul had the best debate performance probably disqualifies him.
Ryan !PArADOx9ZU joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 12 minutes after the original post[^][v]#130,369
@130,365 (C)
On the gay marriage thing, he said it was an individual issue, not some big group thing. He sees it as a personal decision in which the government has no reason to not allow. That's completely the opposite of everyone else in the debate saying they're upholding god's word and how they're going to introduce amendments banning fag unions.
I'd definitely call Ron Paul the winner. I agree with him quite a bit politically, as I'm a libertarian and am thus rather conservative economically and liberal socially. I certainly hope he gets the republican ticket.
Anonymous C replied with this 15 years ago, 21 seconds later, 13 minutes after the original post[^][v]#130,371
@130,368 (Born this Way !dLadyGAgAA)
I dunno, I'm watching Ron Paul's portion of the debate right now and he is getting tons of cheering after he answers each question.
stickybuns !bENfolDsOU (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 14 minutes after the original post[^][v]#130,373
@130,369 (Ryan !PArADOx9ZU)
it wasn't so much the conservativeness itself that was ridiculous as it was the things they were saying. It was just sickening listening to them talk about keeping God in government and things of that nature.
Ryan !PArADOx9ZU replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 16 minutes after the original post[^][v]#130,374
@previous (stickybuns !bENfolDsOU)
Ah. What's ridiculous about that?
Anonymous C replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 18 minutes after the original post[^][v]#130,375
@previous (Ryan !PArADOx9ZU)
Ask Thomas Jefferson.
Ryan !PArADOx9ZU replied with this 15 years ago, 38 seconds later, 18 minutes after the original post[^][v]#130,376
stickybuns !bENfolDsOU (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 46 seconds later, 19 minutes after the original post[^][v]#130,377
@130,374 (Ryan !PArADOx9ZU)
The state is meant to be separate from religion.
Ryan !PArADOx9ZU replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 21 minutes after the original post[^][v]#130,378
@previous (stickybuns !bENfolDsOU)
Not as our founding fathers have dictated.
"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United State of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
protip !!pMmAiEwOm joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 22 minutes after the original post[^][v]#130,380
@130,373 (stickybuns !bENfolDsOU)
You're looking for "pandering"
but yes, conservatism is ridiculous :3
stickybuns !bENfolDsOU (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 5 seconds later, 22 minutes after the original post[^][v]#130,382
@130,378 (Ryan !PArADOx9ZU)
Under god wasn't added until 1954 during the height of McCarthyism.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 24 minutes after the original post[^][v]#130,383
@130,378 (Ryan !PArADOx9ZU)
That was added in the 1950s by conservative religious folk. The original version had no mention of God in it.
Ryan !PArADOx9ZU replied with this 15 years ago, 22 seconds later, 24 minutes after the original post[^][v]#130,384
@130,382 (stickybuns !bENfolDsOU)
America was originally a Puritan nation composed mainly of religious dissenters seeking refuge from the persecution they were subjected to by the Anglican church.
Anonymous C replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 28 minutes after the original post[^][v]#130,389
@previous (Ryan !PArADOx9ZU)
Which is the main reason that they had the foresight to put in protections against the same thing happening to their new country. In America, church and state are supposed to be seperate.
stickybuns !bENfolDsOU (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 second later, 28 minutes after the original post[^][v]#130,390
@130,384 (Ryan !PArADOx9ZU)
Those were the pilgrims, and even they were wackjobs (just in a different way than the Anglican church). That really has nothing to do with the specific founding of the country in it's current state, however. The founding father's were big believers in enlightenment era thinking, and came from a variety of religious backgrounds. It's been a veritable melting pot of religious views since the beginning.
stickybuns !bENfolDsOU (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 25 seconds later, 29 minutes after the original post[^][v]#130,392
@130,390 (stickybuns !bENfolDsOU)
Who are you to dictate who is a "wackjob" and who is not? I'm pretty sure Rick Santorum thinks you are a dirty little liberal hipster wackjob, yourself.
Anonymous C replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 31 minutes after the original post[^][v]#130,394
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#130,456
He is kicking so much ass and doing so much better than he was 4 years ago. I'm excited.
Syntax joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 28 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#130,462
I came in late tonight after a client meeting so I am now in catch up with CNN in the background.
Buns I it Google to see if the he in fact agreed to an abortion himself and could not find with a quick search or Wiki a verification of that.
Was surprised that Google's spider already has your topic up!!!
Anonymous C replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#130,464
@previous (Syntax)
Google gives indexing priority to sites like minichan, with high volume of user generated content.
Basically, if a site updates a lot, google crawls it a lot.
stickybuns !bENfolDsOU (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 32 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#130,470
RonPaul2012 !4EB6xd.Oos joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 3 days later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#134,137
Please reject the false dichotomy of left-right. Political compass (?) which places you on the square is more correct.
The true battle is between freedom and slavery. Conservatives: even if your master only stops you from doing things you didn't want to do anyway, you are still a slave! Liberals: even if your master only makes you do things you would want to do anyway, you are still a slave!
We are the people. The state serves us; not the other way round! Bush and Obama represent the same type of leader. Let us fight for a leader with the courage to reject war; with the compassion to end welfare; and with the morality to legalize all consensual behavior.