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you want them privatized, but still nationalized. Go Away.
Voice of !WisdomHsuU replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 14 minutes after the original post[^][v]#129,838
@129,836 (Kaleidoscope !IRedfLdmGw)
Nope. I'm supporting a public system which one can opt-out of if one wants private healthcare and get a percentage of tax for healthcare written off.
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 20 minutes after the original post[^][v]#129,846
[^_^] !IOdbnXsKDk replied with this 15 years ago, 10 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#129,898
@previous (Kaleidoscope !IRedfLdmGw)
From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.
It relies on people. It has worked in the past.
> Anarchist communist societies in various areas of the world. The egalitarian nature of most hunter gatherer societies have led some anarchist communists and green anarchists (especially anarcho-primitivists) to argue that hunter gatherer tribes were the early forms of anarchist communism. Early Christian communities have been described by Christian anarchists and some historians as possessing anarcho-communist characteristics. Egalitarian religious communities such as the Diggers Movement during the English Revolution could arguably be the first anarchist communist societies in modern history. Large communities and federations of communities such as Anarchist Catalonia and the Free Territory of revolutionary Ukraine are examples of successful anarchist-communism in twentieth century Europe. The free territories of Hungary during the Hungarian Revolution of 1956 may be seen as another example of large-scale successful anarcho-communism. On a less lauditory note, Luigi Galleani, an Italian anarcho-communist, inspired a terror bombing campaign in the United States that continued from 1914 to 1932. The Korean Anarchist Movement in North and South Korea led by Kim Jwa Jin showed a temporary success in bringing anarcho-communism to Korea. However, the success was short-lived and not nearly as widely spread as the anarchism in Spain or Hungary. Some consider the current existing anarchist nature of communities in Argentina and the Zapatista councils in Mexico to be anarcho-communist in nature. Others consider them to be collectivist or syndicalist. Current examples of anarcho-communism Today, some anarcho-communists argue that a prime example of their ideology in practice is the traditional family. Each member contributes income purely by altruism, they say. Property is commonly owned, and the family has no internal price system—a major feature of anarcho-communism. Some parts of the free software community, the GNU movement and parts of the copyleft movement reflect a type of information and software gift economy, which is also central to anarcho-communist ideology. [44] Programmers make their source code available, allowing anyone to copy and modify/improve it. Individual programmers gain prestige and respect, and the community as a whole benefits from better software. Markus Giesler in his ethnography "Consumer Gift Systems" has developed music downloading as a system of social solidarity based on gift transactions. [45][46] Finally, some organizations such as online commons (for example,the Wikimedia Commons), wikis and Indymedia are held up as examples of functioning anarcho-communistic organizations. [47]
Kaleidoscope !IRedfLdmGw (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#129,902
> From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.
People are selfish. They will take, but will be resistant to give. This is why communism has only worked, on a large scale, with the use of a state force.
Voice of !WisdomHsuU replied with this 15 years ago, 11 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#129,937
(Citing a deleted or non-existent reply.)
No. Serves you right
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#129,943
Greed is bad. A society must be workable without resorting to evil. @129,862 (Voice of !WisdomHsuU)
Voice of !WisdomHsuU replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#129,944
> Greed is bad.
No. Corruption of power is bad. > A society must be workable without resorting to evil.
Hong Kong functions well enough by "resorting to evil".
Kaleidoscope !IRedfLdmGw (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#129,948
@129,943 (mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos)
Greed is motivating, and in a lawful society greed's bad side is kept in check, while it can still motivate someone to work hard.
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 15 years ago, 22 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#129,965
@129,944 (Voice of !WisdomHsuU)
Hong Kong has no state police force?
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos double-posted this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#129,966
This. But in a society that can not enforce laws... (except by private firms that would be profiting from convictions would create a terrible conflict of interest)
Voice of !WisdomHsuU replied with this 15 years ago, 55 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#129,988
@129,965 (mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos)
No, but Hong Kong is of greed.
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#130,023
101@ joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#130,071
Citizens supply mass of money
Gov builds army navy
Invades another country for resources
Been this way since the beginning.
Minimum has nada to do with anything.
Voice of !WisdomHsuU replied with this 15 years ago, 7 hours later, 13 hours after the original post[^][v]#130,160
@130,023 (mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos)
Hong Kong is very capitalism.
sexual aerosol !!mtq555+/1 joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 day later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#131,191
Whatever our glorious Leader Kim Jung-Il says, I'm down for
Voice of !WisdomHsuU replied with this 15 years ago, 13 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#131,204
(Citing a deleted or non-existent reply.)
My opinion is that one should be able to form competing electric companies to keep the price down and to decentralise power outages.
Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 9 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#131,212
To keep their hands off my MONEY
It is as simple as that. The more I make that I can keep the more I will invest it. The more I invest it the better off I am and the better off the Gov is. Win Win
But when they mess with MY MONEY its Win for me cause I work overtyme to find a way to keep it LEGALLY and they lose cause I keep more then I wood if they had just left me the FUCK ALONE.
Voice of !WisdomHsuU replied with this 15 years ago, 11 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#131,359
(Citing a deleted or non-existent reply.)
I believe they should not be allowed to into antitrust.
Possibly !4et0YaTXO. replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#131,407