Topic: I think I understand what Trump is trying to say about the USPS "losing" money on Amazon shipments
Meta started this discussion 8 years ago #73,876
This has confused a lot of people because obviously Amazon is paying the post office to ship packages. What Trump is trying to say is the USPS is undercharging Amazon and losing money they should have gotten if they had negotiated a better deal.
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 4 minutes later[^] [v] #877,608
What is up with Trump's capitalization? It's like Syntax is ghostwriting his tweets.
Anonymous B double-posted this 8 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #877,609
Also why does Trump hate the free market
Anonymous B triple-posted this 8 years ago, 3 minutes later, 8 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #877,610
Does anyone want to listen my anti trump ukulele record on bandcamp??
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 2 minutes later, 11 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #877,611
Is that even true though? Leaving aside the fact that the president of the United States can't communicate a basic idea clearly after multiple attempts.
Anonymous B replied with this 8 years ago, 5 minutes later, 16 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #877,612
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Amazon definitely pays less than anyone else, but I think they also take over some post sorting responsibility
Amazon definitely pays less than anyone else, but I think they also take over some post sorting responsibility
DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 49 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #877,616
So let's try to explain this with taking China and its postal service as an example.
So whenever you order something from china that has free shipping, be assured that not even the seller paid shipping for your package. They have deals with the postal service (that is government owned just like USPS). To make em more competitive, the government subsides shipping costs (in case of China, they take it over 100%).
So basically, what Trump wants to do is scrap those deals, and start charging them non-subsided prices because amazon is raking in cash at the expense of USPS.
So whenever you order something from china that has free shipping, be assured that not even the seller paid shipping for your package. They have deals with the postal service (that is government owned just like USPS). To make em more competitive, the government subsides shipping costs (in case of China, they take it over 100%).
So basically, what Trump wants to do is scrap those deals, and start charging them non-subsided prices because amazon is raking in cash at the expense of USPS.
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 56 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #877,619
@previous (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
What? The government doesn't pay to have your dildoes shipped to you you idiot. Got a source for that claim you gullible idiot? Amazon pays discounted shipping because they only pay the post office for "last mile" delivery and handle shipments between distribution centers themselves. So the post office delivers for less because they are literally contracted to do less work.
If you're going to lie and make shit up at least try and not sound like a complete moron you goofy fuck face.
What? The government doesn't pay to have your dildoes shipped to you you idiot. Got a source for that claim you gullible idiot? Amazon pays discounted shipping because they only pay the post office for "last mile" delivery and handle shipments between distribution centers themselves. So the post office delivers for less because they are literally contracted to do less work.
If you're going to lie and make shit up at least try and not sound like a complete moron you goofy fuck face.
Anonymous E double-posted this 8 years ago, 58 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #877,620
Oh, and I'm sure Trump is telling the truth THIS time, you gullible fucks.
Anonymous B replied with this 8 years ago, 30 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #877,622
@877,616 (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
What interest does the Chinese government have in subsidizing AliExpress tat lol
What interest does the Chinese government have in subsidizing AliExpress tat lol
Syntax joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 11 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #877,623
@877,620 (E)
Not having a clue about this I simply imputed USPS is undercharging Amazon
Output ends up agreeing in total
https://www.21cpw.com/usps-effectively-subsidizes-amazon-undercharging-them-1-46-a-package-on-postage/
Technically this is ILLEGAL
Odd how Ivanka Trump uses Amazon for her shipments LoL
Oh and having not said this B4 - Trump saved the day month years with decision to step in and force Broadcom to stay away from Qualcomm.
Not having a clue about this I simply imputed USPS is undercharging Amazon
Output ends up agreeing in total
https://www.21cpw.com/usps-effectively-subsidizes-amazon-undercharging-them-1-46-a-package-on-postage/
In April, a Citigroup analysis found that the Postal Service should be charging, on average, $1.46 more on packages
‘It is as if every Amazon box comes with a dollar or two stapled to the packing slip – a gift card from Uncle Sam,’ Josh Sanbulte writes in the Wall Street Journal
‘It is as if every Amazon box comes with a dollar or two stapled to the packing slip – a gift card from Uncle Sam,’ Josh Sanbulte writes in the Wall Street Journal
Technically this is ILLEGAL
The Postal Service is barred by law from charging less than it costs to deliver a package
Odd how Ivanka Trump uses Amazon for her shipments LoL
Oh and having not said this B4 - Trump saved the day month years with decision to step in and force Broadcom to stay away from Qualcomm.
Anonymous B replied with this 8 years ago, 1 hour later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #877,641
Meta (OP) replied with this 8 years ago, 23 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #877,642
@877,611 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Other possible explanations: the USPS is charging Amazon below cost? Though I don't think the USPS would do that.
He does have a point though, if the USPS is charging Amazon less than the maximum amount Amazon is willing to pay they are, in a sense, "losing" money they otherwise could have got.
Other possible explanations: the USPS is charging Amazon below cost? Though I don't think the USPS would do that.
He does have a point though, if the USPS is charging Amazon less than the maximum amount Amazon is willing to pay they are, in a sense, "losing" money they otherwise could have got.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 8 years ago, 24 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #877,644
@previous (Meta)
So when I bought a candy bar at a store for $1 even though I was willing to pay up $2 the store owner lost $1 on the transaction? Don't be absurd.
So when I bought a candy bar at a store for $1 even though I was willing to pay up $2 the store owner lost $1 on the transaction? Don't be absurd.
WSD !m2cp3rR5zw joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 23 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #877,647
Anything from PRChina costs the USPS money, due to treaties with impoverished nations, of which PRChina is included. Trump screeches about Amazon because of his feud with Jeff Bezos.
Sheila LaBoof joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 4 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #877,649
@OP
> This has confused a lot of people because obviously Amazon is paying the post office to ship packages. What Trump is trying to say is the USPS is undercharging Amazon and losing money they should have gotten if they had negotiated a better deal.
no, he's talking shit like he always does, and doesn't care about being accurate or even true
> This has confused a lot of people because obviously Amazon is paying the post office to ship packages. What Trump is trying to say is the USPS is undercharging Amazon and losing money they should have gotten if they had negotiated a better deal.
no, he's talking shit like he always does, and doesn't care about being accurate or even true
Sheila LaBoof double-posted this 8 years ago, 4 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #877,650
there's nothing unusual about companies that do huge numbers of parcel, or "junk mail", or anything in great volume, negotiating a deal
it's been that way forever, dum dums
it's been that way forever, dum dums
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 1 hour later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #877,665
i assumed this was about Amazon using contractors for 2-day shipping or some shit like that that I can't care about
DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew replied with this 8 years ago, 16 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #877,671
@877,619 (E)
You can't be this ignorant, pls say you're trolling.
@877,622 (B)
That's one of the methods how China inflates its GDP. Makes their shit more competitive on the market. Would you rather order a 100pack of LEDs from china for 4.99 and free shipping, or the same shit from Somalia for 2.99 + 5 USD shipping?
@877,649 (Sheila LaBoof)
The only one talking shit this time is you.
@877,642 (Meta)
Oh boy...
You can't be this ignorant, pls say you're trolling.
@877,622 (B)
That's one of the methods how China inflates its GDP. Makes their shit more competitive on the market. Would you rather order a 100pack of LEDs from china for 4.99 and free shipping, or the same shit from Somalia for 2.99 + 5 USD shipping?
@877,649 (Sheila LaBoof)
The only one talking shit this time is you.
@877,642 (Meta)
Oh boy...
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 30 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #877,679
I love how every time Trump tweets people have to puzzle over it to try to figure out what he really means.
> What Trump is trying to say is the USPS is undercharging Amazon and losing money they should have gotten if they had negotiated a better deal.
That's probably the best interpretation. The weird $1.50 per package figure he tweeted out earlier has been debunked, and people are scratching their heads about how USPS can be losing money by getting paid to deliver packages along mail routes they already cover. It looks like Trump is just throwing a tantrum again.
> What Trump is trying to say is the USPS is undercharging Amazon and losing money they should have gotten if they had negotiated a better deal.
That's probably the best interpretation. The weird $1.50 per package figure he tweeted out earlier has been debunked, and people are scratching their heads about how USPS can be losing money by getting paid to deliver packages along mail routes they already cover. It looks like Trump is just throwing a tantrum again.
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 8 years ago, 2 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #877,681
@877,671 (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
> You can't be this ignorant, pls say you're trolling.
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> That's one of the methods how China inflates its GDP. Makes their shit more competitive on the market. Would you rather order a 100pack of LEDs from china for 4.99 and free shipping, or the same shit from Somalia for 2.99 + 5 USD shipping?
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> The only one talking shit this time is you.
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> Oh boy...
no, you haven't been well informed on this at all
do you have any knowledge in this area prior to this week
> You can't be this ignorant, pls say you're trolling.
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> That's one of the methods how China inflates its GDP. Makes their shit more competitive on the market. Would you rather order a 100pack of LEDs from china for 4.99 and free shipping, or the same shit from Somalia for 2.99 + 5 USD shipping?
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> The only one talking shit this time is you.
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> Oh boy...
no, you haven't been well informed on this at all
do you have any knowledge in this area prior to this week
Anonymous B replied with this 8 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #877,682
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 8 years ago, 53 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #877,683
@877,679 (J)
> I love how every time Trump tweets people have to puzzle over it to try to figure out what he really means.
>
> > What Trump is trying to say is the USPS is undercharging Amazon and losing money they should have gotten if they had negotiated a better deal.
> That's probably the best interpretation. The weird $1.50 per package figure he tweeted out earlier has been debunked, and people are scratching their heads about how USPS can be losing money by getting paid to deliver packages along mail routes they already cover. It looks like Trump is just throwing a tantrum again.
there's nothing to interpret. he says wrong shit all the time, and flip-flops so much that he is simply unreliable. don't waste time thinking. he certainly didn't.
> I love how every time Trump tweets people have to puzzle over it to try to figure out what he really means.
>
> > What Trump is trying to say is the USPS is undercharging Amazon and losing money they should have gotten if they had negotiated a better deal.
> That's probably the best interpretation. The weird $1.50 per package figure he tweeted out earlier has been debunked, and people are scratching their heads about how USPS can be losing money by getting paid to deliver packages along mail routes they already cover. It looks like Trump is just throwing a tantrum again.
there's nothing to interpret. he says wrong shit all the time, and flip-flops so much that he is simply unreliable. don't waste time thinking. he certainly didn't.
Anonymous J replied with this 8 years ago, 7 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #877,686
@previous (Sheila LaBoof)
Yeah, I usually don't struggle too hard to find meaning in Trump's oddball tweets. Chances are he'll say something different next week or just blame his lawyer for writing tweets if he suddenly doesn't want to take responsibility for them later.
Yeah, I usually don't struggle too hard to find meaning in Trump's oddball tweets. Chances are he'll say something different next week or just blame his lawyer for writing tweets if he suddenly doesn't want to take responsibility for them later.
(Edited 30 seconds later.)
Meta (OP) replied with this 8 years ago, 7 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #877,690
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 2 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #877,692
fuck martin Luther King Jr.
nigger deserved to be killed
niggers burn in hell
and fuck Rosa Parks
i'll slap that bitch as well
nigger deserved to be killed
niggers burn in hell
and fuck Rosa Parks
i'll slap that bitch as well
??? !TGirlYJKXM joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 15 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #877,696
I made quite a few tweets directed at him regarding this. The real reason why retail is dying is that we, myself included, always want convenience and affordability. This is something that we cannot fault Amazon with since they are providing both and doing well in a capitalist system. You would suspect that since our President is a businessman he would know this simple fact regarding the social system that his country that he represents is categorized under. It's enough to make me suspect that his whole intention of becoming president is to make it easier for him to own a monopoly in the business world.
Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #877,697
@877,623 (Syntax)
Damn, anon E just got fucking owned and shipped for free!
@877,682 (B)
> source
Learn to use Google you lazy fuck.
Damn, anon E just got fucking owned and shipped for free!
@877,682 (B)
> source
Learn to use Google you lazy fuck.
Green !BEERiVqJJw joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #877,698
Anonymous M replied with this 8 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #877,699
??? !TGirlYJKXM replied with this 8 years ago, 12 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #877,707
@877,698 (Green !BEERiVqJJw)
I know he won't read it. That is why I tweet to him. If he responded to me then that would be a cause for alarm and starstruck. I always stop in physical stores, that is why I am saddened by the news of Toys "R" Us' closure. The only things to do up here is shop and eat. Maybe see a movie.
I know he won't read it. That is why I tweet to him. If he responded to me then that would be a cause for alarm and starstruck. I always stop in physical stores, that is why I am saddened by the news of Toys "R" Us' closure. The only things to do up here is shop and eat. Maybe see a movie.
Anonymous M replied with this 8 years ago, 4 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #877,709
@previous (??? !TGirlYJKXM)
> The only things to do up here is shop and eat. Maybe see a movie
Sounds like the USAmerican dream
> The only things to do up here is shop and eat. Maybe see a movie
Sounds like the USAmerican dream
Anonymous O joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #877,710
Green !BEERiVqJJw replied with this 8 years ago, 10 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #877,712
Anonymous B replied with this 8 years ago, 15 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #877,720
WSD !m2cp3rR5zw joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 6 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #877,724
Syntax: expert on USPS.
??? !TGirlYJKXM replied with this 8 years ago, 9 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #877,727
@877,710 (O)
Who says I don't shop online?
@877,712 (Green !BEERiVqJJw)
Because I am almost 30 and I still play with toys.
Who says I don't shop online?
@877,712 (Green !BEERiVqJJw)
Because I am almost 30 and I still play with toys.
Anonymous Q joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 43 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #877,753
@877,644 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
That shopkeeper is losing money in the context of profit margins.
If the shopkeeper was more aware of his market, he would have charged you (and everyone else) $2.
That shopkeeper is losing money in the context of profit margins.
If the shopkeeper was more aware of his market, he would have charged you (and everyone else) $2.
Green !BEERiVqJJw replied with this 8 years ago, 1 minute later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #877,756
Anonymous Q replied with this 8 years ago, 1 minute later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #877,758
??? !TGirlYJKXM replied with this 8 years ago, 1 minute later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #877,759
@877,756 (Green !BEERiVqJJw)
I don't play too much with toys much anymore, but I still play with wrestling figures. The last thing I purchased at Toys "R" Us was a Peter Capaldi Doctor Who figure.
I don't play too much with toys much anymore, but I still play with wrestling figures. The last thing I purchased at Toys "R" Us was a Peter Capaldi Doctor Who figure.
Anonymous Q replied with this 8 years ago, 37 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #877,760
Meta (OP) replied with this 8 years ago, 1 hour later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #877,792
@877,679 (J)
> I love how every time Trump tweets people have to puzzle over it to try to figure out what he really means.
It's fun! Just like puzzling over Nostradamus and the book of Revelation.
> > What Trump is trying to say is the USPS is undercharging Amazon and losing money they should have gotten if they had negotiated a better deal.
> That's probably the best interpretation. The weird $1.50 per package figure he tweeted out earlier has been debunked, and people are scratching their heads about how USPS can be losing money by getting paid to deliver packages along mail routes they already cover. It looks like Trump is just throwing a tantrum again.
This is textbook Trump: make an outrageous false statement that's trivial to debunk, but it's a decoy to get people talking about something else. So now you get a million "The USPS is indeed losing a shitload of money but not because of Amazon" stories. The media hates Trump and can't resist proving him wrong, and in doing so, is going to get everyone talking about the post office losing money, which is what Trump actually wants.
> I love how every time Trump tweets people have to puzzle over it to try to figure out what he really means.
It's fun! Just like puzzling over Nostradamus and the book of Revelation.
> > What Trump is trying to say is the USPS is undercharging Amazon and losing money they should have gotten if they had negotiated a better deal.
> That's probably the best interpretation. The weird $1.50 per package figure he tweeted out earlier has been debunked, and people are scratching their heads about how USPS can be losing money by getting paid to deliver packages along mail routes they already cover. It looks like Trump is just throwing a tantrum again.
This is textbook Trump: make an outrageous false statement that's trivial to debunk, but it's a decoy to get people talking about something else. So now you get a million "The USPS is indeed losing a shitload of money but not because of Amazon" stories. The media hates Trump and can't resist proving him wrong, and in doing so, is going to get everyone talking about the post office losing money, which is what Trump actually wants.
Syntax replied with this 8 years ago, 2 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #877,793
@877,724 (WSD !m2cp3rR5zw)
> Syntax: expert on USPS.
No - Not at all. I can Google the issue and find out what the Wall Street Journal has to say - Which got all this going
> Syntax: expert on USPS.
No - Not at all. I can Google the issue and find out what the Wall Street Journal has to say - Which got all this going
Anonymous O replied with this 8 years ago, 13 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #877,798
Anonymous J replied with this 8 years ago, 50 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #877,824
@877,792 (Meta)
I think ascribing that complex a motive to his actions is being very generous. I have a hard time believing he's not just spouting off like someone's drunk uncle at Thanksgiving dinner.
I think ascribing that complex a motive to his actions is being very generous. I have a hard time believing he's not just spouting off like someone's drunk uncle at Thanksgiving dinner.
squeegee joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 1 minute later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #877,826
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 8 years ago, 2 hours later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #877,930
well the post office doesn't lose money though
it's just in the hole due to congress mandating a 75 year advance funding of pensions of workers who haven't been born yet, as Fed Ex gives these shitheads money
follow the money
it's just in the hole due to congress mandating a 75 year advance funding of pensions of workers who haven't been born yet, as Fed Ex gives these shitheads money
follow the money
Meta (OP) replied with this 8 years ago, 1 hour later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #877,940
@877,824 (J)
That's exactly how it works. You see a drunk uncle spouting bullshit but it's actually a diversion, like how magicians divert your attention so you don't see how they saw a lady in half on stage. You look at the shiny thing (Amazon is ripping the USPS off) and completely miss the real trick (you're now thinking about how much money the USPS is losing).
That's exactly how it works. You see a drunk uncle spouting bullshit but it's actually a diversion, like how magicians divert your attention so you don't see how they saw a lady in half on stage. You look at the shiny thing (Amazon is ripping the USPS off) and completely miss the real trick (you're now thinking about how much money the USPS is losing).
Meta (OP) double-posted this 8 years ago, 7 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #877,945
Speaking of the USPS losing money, I've often wanted to start writing letters to one of those remote Alaskan towns where the mail is delivered by dogsleds and it costs a fortune to deliver mail to, knowing the USPS wold be losing a shit ton on every 47 cent letter back and forth ?
Anonymous J replied with this 8 years ago, 1 minute later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #877,947
@877,940 (Meta)
I suppose I'd have to think about it harder for the trick to work. Like a crazy drunk uncle, I've tuned him out. I'm only smiling and nodding at him long enough to grab some more mashed potatoes and table wine before leaving the room.
I suppose I'd have to think about it harder for the trick to work. Like a crazy drunk uncle, I've tuned him out. I'm only smiling and nodding at him long enough to grab some more mashed potatoes and table wine before leaving the room.
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 8 years ago, 2 hours later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #877,974
@877,945 (Meta)
only if your volume was somehow sufficient on its own to necessitate hiring someone to handle it
otherwise, the one guy in gun shack is still the one guy in the gun shack
only if your volume was somehow sufficient on its own to necessitate hiring someone to handle it
otherwise, the one guy in gun shack is still the one guy in the gun shack
Anonymous S joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 4 hours later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #877,994
The U.S. government does not OWN USPS
the more you know
the more you know
Anonymous T joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 1 hour later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #878,004
Anonymous S replied with this 7 years ago, 10 months later, 10 months after the original post[^] [v] #964,007
@877,679 (J)
> I love how every time Trump tweets people have to puzzle over it to try to figure out what he really means.
It's because they re only used to the same old so called talking points from the carrer politians..
> I love how every time Trump tweets people have to puzzle over it to try to figure out what he really means.
It's because they re only used to the same old so called talking points from the carrer politians..
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Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 7 years ago, 3 minutes later, 10 months after the original post[^] [v] #964,008
WSD !m2cp3rR5zw joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 5 hours later, 10 months after the original post[^] [v] #964,127
Would Trump rather deprive the USPS of revenue by having Amazon Flex permatemp contractors deliver the parcels?
Meta !Sober//iZs (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 45 minutes later, 10 months after the original post[^] [v] #964,164
Anonymous J replied with this 7 years ago, 2 hours later, 10 months after the original post[^] [v] #964,231
@964,007 (S)
> It's because they re only used to the same old so called talking points from the carrer politians..
You're going to have to try harder to put your words into sentences that others can understand if you want people to treat you as if you have a real opinion.
> It's because they re only used to the same old so called talking points from the carrer politians..
You're going to have to try harder to put your words into sentences that others can understand if you want people to treat you as if you have a real opinion.