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Topic: London's murder rate is higher than NYC

Meta started this discussion 8 years ago #73,827

While New York City's murder rate has gone down - decreasing by around 87 per cent since the 1990's - the Big Smoke’s has simultaneously surged. London's has increased by nearly 40 per cent in the space of three years alone - not including deaths caused by terrorist attacks.


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/london-murder-rate-new-york-overtakes-stabbing-a8283866.html

They really should ban knives. It's just insane you can buy a knife with no background check.

beckyderp !TNyDikii4A joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 14 seconds later[^] [v] #877,181

ugh meta

Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #877,183

Agree

Anonymous C double-posted this 8 years ago, 5 minutes later, 7 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #877,184

Also doesn't NY have very strict gun laws for usamerican understanding?

chili dog !!81dzJNNYL joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 6 minutes later, 13 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #877,185

@877,181 (beckyderp !TNyDikii4A)

> ugh meta

Meta (OP) replied with this 8 years ago, 6 minutes later, 20 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #877,186

@877,181 (beckyderp !TNyDikii4A)
> ugh meta
Banning guns is the solution to shootings so banning knives is the solution to stabbings.

I just find it interesting the UK has pretty tight gun laws but London is beating NYC in murders. Of course NYC (and DC, and Chicago, etc) also have pretty draconian gun laws but a lot of guns come into those cities from areas where it's easier to get guns. London of course doesn't have that problem because the whole UK is a gun-free zone.

But the London murder rate is going up. A lot.

Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 1 minute later, 21 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #877,187

You should consider moving to London. As I can see you're too afraid to take your own life, the chances are high that someone will do it for you. Begone, fat ass.

chili dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 8 years ago, 1 minute later, 22 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #877,188

@877,186 (Meta)
people have knives for a million reasons other than stabbing
what reason other than shooting do people have guns

Anonymous C replied with this 8 years ago, 31 seconds later, 23 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #877,189

@877,186 (Meta)
But there were 290 homicides in New York and 130 in London

Meta (OP) replied with this 8 years ago, 1 minute later, 24 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #877,190

@877,188 (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
what other reason than cutting and stabbing do people have knives

Meta (OP) double-posted this 8 years ago, 1 minute later, 25 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #877,191

@877,189 (C)
There were more murders in the past month in London

Anonymous C replied with this 8 years ago, 7 minutes later, 33 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #877,194

@previous (Meta)
Source??

Meta (OP) replied with this 8 years ago, 10 minutes later, 43 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #877,196

@previous (C)
The article I linked in the OP you dumbshit

Green !BEERiVqJJw joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 1 minute later, 45 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #877,197

@OP
White Brits are also a minority in London now. Surely there can't be a correlation?

Anonymous C replied with this 8 years ago, 23 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #877,200

@877,196 (Meta)
literally 1 more person

Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #877,201

@877,197 (Green !BEERiVqJJw)
Time for Sharia law in England.

Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 22 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #877,204

@877,190 (Meta)

> what other reason than cutting and stabbing do people have knives

sometimes I use a knife to pry things

Big Daddy Derek™ !Uvm54ORbmo joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #877,208

@877,197 (Green !BEERiVqJJw)
Why aren't you doing something about that? Absolutely appalling.

Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 5 hours later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #877,270

What they need is a mass stabbing to happen at a school in London. Then a couple of kids that survive can become public policy experts and be given a platform by left-wing media in an attempt to take all the knives. Or at least stop high capacity sharpening stones, and tactical serrated edges.

Green !BEERiVqJJw replied with this 8 years ago, 1 hour later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #877,277

@877,208 (Big Daddy Derek™ !Uvm54ORbmo)
I hope to never go to London again.

Big Daddy Derek™ !Uvm54ORbmo replied with this 8 years ago, 1 hour later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #877,280

@previous (Green !BEERiVqJJw)
So your're just going to quit?

Green !BEERiVqJJw replied with this 8 years ago, 1 day later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #877,487

@previous (Big Daddy Derek™ !Uvm54ORbmo)
I want to save England now.

Big Daddy Derek™ !Uvm54ORbmo replied with this 8 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #877,502

@previous (Green !BEERiVqJJw)
Vote UKIP!

Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #877,505

@877,487 (Green !BEERiVqJJw)
The only thing that will save England now is Sharia law.

Sheila LaBoof joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #877,559

@877,191 (Meta)
the past month

you could have mentioned that earlier

now we might suspect you of being misleading

also, please make use of the Poisson distribution to calculate related probabilities

Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 45 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #877,564

@previous (Sheila LaBoof)
Well, if you count total murders throughout history London still comes out above New York, and knives are historically the most popular murder weapon.

C'mon... At least he's being creative about cooking the numbers to score cheap points.

Sheila LaBoof replied with this 8 years ago, 30 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #877,567

London also has a higher getting-bombed-by-germans number, which I find interesting. They used another statistical distribution to decide if the bombs were guided or essentially random, and concluded that they were not guided.

Anonymous M replied with this 8 years ago, 13 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #877,571

@previous (Sheila LaBoof)
It's possible that the Germans were just firing rockets into the sea because they hate fish and accidentally hit London along the way. Modeling frequency and location of strikes with a Poisson distribution makes it look good for the fish, but you can't trust the Poisson distribution where fish are concerned. Obvious conflict of interest.

Meta (OP) replied with this 8 years ago, 7 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #877,607

@877,564 (M)

> knives are historically the most popular murder weapon.
Yeah but they had a million year head start. That's not exactly a fair comparison.
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