Topic: If Capitalism is so great...
Anonymous A started this discussion 8 years ago #72,151
...then why can only wealthy people with perfect credit get capital?
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 11 minutes later[^] [v] #864,905
Survival of the fittest.
Svet !jzYkdX7lIw joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 19 minutes later, 31 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #864,907
Capitalism isn't great. It's just good enough for now.
Catherine !TGirlYJKXM joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 55 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #864,916
@864,905 (B)
Once you attempt to apply biological evolution to society that is when all trouble emerges.
Once you attempt to apply biological evolution to society that is when all trouble emerges.
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 15 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #864,918
@previous (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)1: Society needs those who can afford to spend $100+ for yummy sashimi and sake.
2: Society needs those who will wash the dirty dishes.
In between, the sushi chef ends up with a decent salary and tips.
Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #864,927
@OPenis
Because capitalism is an system based upon merit. Thanks.
Because capitalism is an system based upon merit. Thanks.
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 14 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #864,933
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 36 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #864,937
capitalism is better than the alternatives; anarchy, communism and god forbid; socialism.
Catherine !TGirlYJKXM replied with this 8 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #864,938
@864,918 (E)
> 1. Society needs those who can afford to spend %100+ for yummy sashimi and sake.
Those are luxury goods. Society needs people who could afford to contribute to society, not people who sit around and stuff their faces.
> 2. Society needs those who will wash the dirty dishes.
You are under the assumption that there wouldn't be people who wouldn't want to fulfill their jobs.
> 1. Society needs those who can afford to spend %100+ for yummy sashimi and sake.
Those are luxury goods. Society needs people who could afford to contribute to society, not people who sit around and stuff their faces.
> 2. Society needs those who will wash the dirty dishes.
You are under the assumption that there wouldn't be people who wouldn't want to fulfill their jobs.
Anonymous B replied with this 8 years ago, 1 hour later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #864,955
@previous (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
> Those are luxury goods. Society needs people who could afford to contribute to society, not people who sit around and stuff their faces.
> You are under the assumption that there wouldn't be people who wouldn't want to fulfill their jobs.
You need to consider the value of a business. Any business.
Land to build the business on - People to build the building. Water Power and Roads for the business. Building permits and police to protect that business. The Banks to bank the money and payroll people. Takes a lot of infrastructure just to create and support a business. Credit card machines and cash registers and telco lines to support as well as the Wireless infrastructure
> and stuff their faces.
And exactly what do you do when you go to Panera or the long list of fast food places you go to.
> Those are luxury goods. Society needs people who could afford to contribute to society, not people who sit around and stuff their faces.
> You are under the assumption that there wouldn't be people who wouldn't want to fulfill their jobs.
You need to consider the value of a business. Any business.
Land to build the business on - People to build the building. Water Power and Roads for the business. Building permits and police to protect that business. The Banks to bank the money and payroll people. Takes a lot of infrastructure just to create and support a business. Credit card machines and cash registers and telco lines to support as well as the Wireless infrastructure
> and stuff their faces.
And exactly what do you do when you go to Panera or the long list of fast food places you go to.
kook !!OPZbEQMT1 joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 13 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #864,963
harblcopter !YEHARBLxA2 joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 13 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #864,976
@864,938 (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
you think people want to wash dishes? We've been trying to eliminate that job since 1850.
you think people want to wash dishes? We've been trying to eliminate that job since 1850.
Syntax replied with this 8 years ago, 3 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #864,981
@previous (harblcopter !YEHARBLxA2)
He said
> You are under the assumption that there wouldn't be people who wouldn't want to fulfill their jobs.
Betting washing dishes is a lot more better than say picking fruit or vegetables in a field
He said
> You are under the assumption that there wouldn't be people who wouldn't want to fulfill their jobs.
Betting washing dishes is a lot more better than say picking fruit or vegetables in a field
Meta joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 18 hours later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #865,232
Did a Subaru get repo'd, perchance? ?
Syntax replied with this 8 years ago, 15 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #865,239
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q. double-posted this 8 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #865,296
Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo replied with this 8 years ago, 18 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #865,311
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@865,296 (q.)
The overwhelming evidence points to the inability of people to consistently be nice to strangers over time.
The overwhelming evidence points to the inability of people to consistently be nice to strangers over time.
Anonymous H replied with this 8 years ago, 7 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #865,376
@865,296 (q.)
what are you taling about? socialism being nice to each other?
have a peek at venezuela
what are you taling about? socialism being nice to each other?
have a peek at venezuela
Catherine !TGirlYJKXM replied with this 8 years ago, 26 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #865,383
@864,976 (harblcopter !YEHARBLxA2)
I knew a couple people who wished to be a janitor so imagining there are people who would aspire to be a dishwasher isn't that far-fetched.
I knew a couple people who wished to be a janitor so imagining there are people who would aspire to be a dishwasher isn't that far-fetched.
Anonymous J replied with this 8 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #865,385
@previous (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
Okay?? Who wants to shovel shit for the rest of their life then? If you agree to start shoveling, i'll go break the sewer pipes in your area.
Okay?? Who wants to shovel shit for the rest of their life then? If you agree to start shoveling, i'll go break the sewer pipes in your area.
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Anonymous J double-posted this 8 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #865,386
@865,383 (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
Also your anecdotal evidence means nothing. Your experience is far from the average american's. I bet you do know some fucktards who want to scrub toilets because it's all they can get paid to do.
Also your anecdotal evidence means nothing. Your experience is far from the average american's. I bet you do know some fucktards who want to scrub toilets because it's all they can get paid to do.
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Anonymous J triple-posted this 8 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #865,387
Catherine !TGirlYJKXM replied with this 8 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #865,389
@865,386 (J)
Nope, just someone who was a janitor and missed the job because they were paid well and never had to worry about too many demands other than "clean up". They were even allowed to play their music as loud as they wanted to.
Nope, just someone who was a janitor and missed the job because they were paid well and never had to worry about too many demands other than "clean up". They were even allowed to play their music as loud as they wanted to.
Catherine !TGirlYJKXM double-posted this 8 years ago, 55 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #865,391
Anonymous J replied with this 8 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #865,394
@865,389 (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
@previous (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
you never seem to get the fucking point do you?
We have been eliminating shitty jobs since the beginning. Why would you bust open your fucking sewer pipes and start shoveling shit? There was already a better system in place.
Automation is coming. You are one of the few people who has never had to work a day in their life and never will. But go ahead and shovel shit if you get a hair up your ass and decide it's your passion.
@previous (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
you never seem to get the fucking point do you?
We have been eliminating shitty jobs since the beginning. Why would you bust open your fucking sewer pipes and start shoveling shit? There was already a better system in place.
Automation is coming. You are one of the few people who has never had to work a day in their life and never will. But go ahead and shovel shit if you get a hair up your ass and decide it's your passion.
Catherine !TGirlYJKXM replied with this 8 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #865,396
@previous (J)
There are other jobs than shoveling shit. You fall back on that like it's the only dirty job.
There are other jobs than shoveling shit. You fall back on that like it's the only dirty job.
Anonymous J replied with this 8 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #865,398
@previous (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
It's an analogy that keeps flying over your head, babe.
Why would you shovel shit for a living when we have sewers? Why would you do any shitty job that has been automated? PROGRESS PLEASE LETS NOT GO FUCKING BACKWARDS.
It's an analogy that keeps flying over your head, babe.
Why would you shovel shit for a living when we have sewers? Why would you do any shitty job that has been automated? PROGRESS PLEASE LETS NOT GO FUCKING BACKWARDS.
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Anonymous H replied with this 8 years ago, 2 days later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #867,199
@previous (q.)
europe are capitalist govts, not socialist ones
you're conflating socialism with social democracy
europe are capitalist govts, not socialist ones
you're conflating socialism with social democracy