Topic: Things that cause rape, by Dumbass-feminist
Anonymous A started this discussion 15 years ago #7,201
Things that cause muggings.[ ] Walking around with a wad of cash in a bad neighborhood alone
[ ] Bragging about how much money you have.
[x] Muggers
This woman is an idiot, all the things on that list are factors.
It does not justify it, obviously. No matter the situation, drunk slut flirting with everyone, or anything- rape is never ok. But that doesn't mean all those things don't contribute. If you're irresponsible you can't be surprised when it eventually happens.
LeggoMyEggo !TSQPWxnSxE joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later[^] [v] #125,977
I agree.
Ronabe joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 13 minutes later, 16 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #125,996
it seems like it makes sense, but in practise its all about opportunity. they will rape or mug anyone who comes along
!poISOnioxc joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 26 seconds later, 16 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #126,000
OP for president of the national feminist society!
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 19 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #126,007
@125,996 (Ronabe)
A drunk woman, with no friends around to watch her back, hanging around a bad neighborhood at night is a very easy target. She can't resist, has no one to help her out, and is around many bad types who are also drunk.
A drunk woman, with no friends around to watch her back, hanging around a bad neighborhood at night is a very easy target. She can't resist, has no one to help her out, and is around many bad types who are also drunk.
protip !!pMmAiEwOm joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 25 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #126,017
Sure is Reddit in here.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #126,078
Fuck off with this Reddit crap. ._.
Syntax joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 28 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #126,115
!poISOnioxc replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #126,125
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #126,128
mindblast !!4IKKtS9GG joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 9 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #126,138
A crime is 100% the offender's fault. That does not mean you should not lock your doors. If I get burglarized because I never lock my doors or get stabbed because I wander around drunk in the middle of the night, I shouldn't see myself like some hapless victim of an evil conspiratorial society.
Gasoline may "cause" fire, but so does being a jackass and playing with it. It may be the rapist's fault the woman got raped, but he is not always exclusively the one who causes it.
Gasoline may "cause" fire, but so does being a jackass and playing with it. It may be the rapist's fault the woman got raped, but he is not always exclusively the one who causes it.
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protip !!pMmAiEwOm replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #126,141
Nega !34Kas0OdzM joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 36 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #126,166
Sure is Criminology 101 in here…
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Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #126,173
Katerina Shcherbatskaya joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 14 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #126,194
A person does not need to be told afterward that they should have worn something else and then they wouldn't have gotten raped.
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #126,197
@OP
I lol at your foolish logic, OP.
I lol at your foolish logic, OP.
Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 16 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #126,205
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 28 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #126,267
@126,194 (Katerina Shcherbatskaya)
No, they need to be told beforehand so it doesn't happen.
@126,197 (L)
Logic is unchanging, it is not subjective.
No, they need to be told beforehand so it doesn't happen.
@126,197 (L)
Logic is unchanging, it is not subjective.
Anonymous H replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #126,278
Voice of !WisdomHsuU joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 15 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #126,313
Things that cause rape:
stress
niggers
mental illness
niggers
hyperactive libido
niggers
lack of will power
niggers
hatred
niggers
stress
niggers
mental illness
niggers
hyperactive libido
niggers
lack of will power
niggers
hatred
niggers
Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #126,317
Anonymous H replied with this 15 years ago, 53 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #126,319
Anonymous L replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #126,325
Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 25 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #126,363
@126,319 (H)
Sure of course as its freedom of speech, except I do remember r04r getting a bit peeved at me when I stuck it to Matt Miller re his Dads current situation and need to prevent Butt Hurt in near future again.
Its just that on a Chan one can also look in mirror and ask self, just what IF some dude tries to do it to YOU where the Sun no Shine. Unless U want such butt hurt as in taken down on ground out of your control?
Sure of course as its freedom of speech, except I do remember r04r getting a bit peeved at me when I stuck it to Matt Miller re his Dads current situation and need to prevent Butt Hurt in near future again.
Its just that on a Chan one can also look in mirror and ask self, just what IF some dude tries to do it to YOU where the Sun no Shine. Unless U want such butt hurt as in taken down on ground out of your control?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 13 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #126,373
@126,325 (L)
> It does not justify it, obviously. No matter the situation, drunk slut flirting with everyone, or anything- rape is never ok.
> Look at yourself, you imbecile, you place blame the victim of a rape! How amusing!
0/10
Rape is never okay. That doesn't mean that it is random, rape victims, had they been acting more responsibly could have avoided the rape.
> It does not justify it, obviously. No matter the situation, drunk slut flirting with everyone, or anything- rape is never ok.
> Look at yourself, you imbecile, you place blame the victim of a rape! How amusing!
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Rape is never okay. That doesn't mean that it is random, rape victims, had they been acting more responsibly could have avoided the rape.
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Anonymous L replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #126,388
@previous (A)
I am laughing so hard at your foolishness right now! You're seriously saying that a women is at all to blame for being raped? How quaint!
I am laughing so hard at your foolishness right now! You're seriously saying that a women is at all to blame for being raped? How quaint!
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #126,391
Anonymous L replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #126,395
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #126,404
Anonymous L replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #126,409
@previous (A)
Alas, it seems I have bested you rather easily. If you knew from the start that your view was an incorrect one, why start a dialogue about it? Are you really so insolent?
Alas, it seems I have bested you rather easily. If you knew from the start that your view was an incorrect one, why start a dialogue about it? Are you really so insolent?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #126,415
mindblast !!4IKKtS9GG replied with this 15 years ago, 9 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #126,416
@126,388 (L)You seem to be confusing "placing blame" with "advising them to use common sense." I'm not going to wear my Sunday best and walk around in a bad part of town because I know I could get mugged or assaulted.
Criminals tend to be opportunists. I don't deserve to get beaten half to death left for dead just because I put on a nice watch and wandered around state housing, but someone who tells me not to do that does not hate me as a person.
TL;DR
A rapist is responsible for a rape, but if the victim placed herself in a situation where she could be victimized then it could be said she also caused it. Yeah, it's not fair that people exist who take advantage of others, but that isn't going to change anytime soon.
Anonymous H replied with this 15 years ago, 15 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #126,435
protip !!pMmAiEwOm replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #126,439
Born this Way !dLadyGAgAA joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 16 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #126,448
Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #126,452
@previous (Born this Way !dLadyGAgAA)
No Way
im just about to Embark On a 10k run along the shore and let the Butthurt wash off + miller doesnt' leave his house
No Way
im just about to Embark On a 10k run along the shore and let the Butthurt wash off + miller doesnt' leave his house
Born this Way !dLadyGAgAA replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #126,456
@previous (Syntax)
> im just about to Embark On a 10k run along the shore
off-topic
> miller doesnt' leave his house
criticizing matt miller
2 for 2
> im just about to Embark On a 10k run along the shore
off-topic
> miller doesnt' leave his house
criticizing matt miller
2 for 2
Ronabe replied with this 15 years ago, 5 hours later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #127,010
@126,007 (A)
yes being drunk and alone increases a rapists opportunity
noone should be out drunk and alone at night, too dangerous
yes being drunk and alone increases a rapists opportunity
noone should be out drunk and alone at night, too dangerous
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #127,015
I can see where you're coming from, but I'd still put the majority of the blame on the guy who's fucked up enough to commit rape in the first place.
But it can't be denied, the risk of getting raped can easily be minimised. Women shouldn't have to take this into account when living their lives, but sadly there are a lot of bad people out there.
But it can't be denied, the risk of getting raped can easily be minimised. Women shouldn't have to take this into account when living their lives, but sadly there are a lot of bad people out there.
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 11 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #127,021
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
> But it can't be denied, the risk of getting raped can easily be minimised. Women shouldn't have to take this into account when living their lives, but sadly there are a lot of bad people out there.
I agree with this 100%, but I believe the blame lies entirely with the rapist. Women should under no circumstances be made to fear how they dress because they might "attract" rapists, it's sad that some people don't realise that.
> But it can't be denied, the risk of getting raped can easily be minimised. Women shouldn't have to take this into account when living their lives, but sadly there are a lot of bad people out there.
I agree with this 100%, but I believe the blame lies entirely with the rapist. Women should under no circumstances be made to fear how they dress because they might "attract" rapists, it's sad that some people don't realise that.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 15 years ago, 9 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #127,025
@previous (F)
I'd usually put 100% of the blame on the rapist too, but it depends on the context really.
Hypothetical: women is dressed respectively, walks through nice middle-class street. Boom, rapist. Not at all the women's fault.
But let's say she dresses revealingly, and is, I don't know, hanging out by herself in a high-crime area. Not a likely scenario, but it demonstrates that there is such a thing as asking for it.
I'd like to put all of the blame on the rapist, and even in scenario two I'd still put about 95% of the blame on the rapist. Still, sadly, the world can be a mean place, and if you don't take that into account and take a few precautions then you're more likely to run into trouble.
I'd usually put 100% of the blame on the rapist too, but it depends on the context really.
Hypothetical: women is dressed respectively, walks through nice middle-class street. Boom, rapist. Not at all the women's fault.
But let's say she dresses revealingly, and is, I don't know, hanging out by herself in a high-crime area. Not a likely scenario, but it demonstrates that there is such a thing as asking for it.
I'd like to put all of the blame on the rapist, and even in scenario two I'd still put about 95% of the blame on the rapist. Still, sadly, the world can be a mean place, and if you don't take that into account and take a few precautions then you're more likely to run into trouble.
Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 44 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #127,027
Syntax double-posted this 15 years ago, 53 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #127,029
@126,435 (H)
> My eyes glaze over when I attempt to read your posts.
My eyes glaze over when I read your reply's
> My eyes glaze over when I attempt to read your posts.
My eyes glaze over when I read your reply's
nimj joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #127,035
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 11 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #127,061
@127,025 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
I agree that dressing revealingly means you're more likely to run into trouble, of course it does.
But even if they are, in a way, asking for it, that doesn't mean it's their fault or that they did anything to deserve it. No matter how provocatively a woman dresses, it's not as if people (potential rapists) suddenly lose the ability to control themselves - when a rapist rapes a woman (or man), they make the decision to do it - they've decided it of their own accord, and as such they're completely responsible for their own actions. In the same vein, an argument could easily be made that children are "asking" to be raped when they dress in a way that attracts paedophiles, no?
Now of course, there really is such thing as "asking for it", but my opinion is that it would be more like a woman completely naked, actually asking a man to rape her; not simply dressing provocatively.
I agree that dressing revealingly means you're more likely to run into trouble, of course it does.
But even if they are, in a way, asking for it, that doesn't mean it's their fault or that they did anything to deserve it. No matter how provocatively a woman dresses, it's not as if people (potential rapists) suddenly lose the ability to control themselves - when a rapist rapes a woman (or man), they make the decision to do it - they've decided it of their own accord, and as such they're completely responsible for their own actions. In the same vein, an argument could easily be made that children are "asking" to be raped when they dress in a way that attracts paedophiles, no?
Now of course, there really is such thing as "asking for it", but my opinion is that it would be more like a woman completely naked, actually asking a man to rape her; not simply dressing provocatively.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #127,067
@127,015 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
The rapist is entirely to blame, and should always face consequences.
@127,021 (F)
A woman should be able to dress however she wants, and get drunk, alone, in any neighborhood, and be safe from rapists. this would be wonderful, but sadly is not the case.
Being irresponsible will increase the chances of getting raped, and pretending it won't will give people a false sense of security.
The rapist is entirely to blame, and should always face consequences.
@127,021 (F)
A woman should be able to dress however she wants, and get drunk, alone, in any neighborhood, and be safe from rapists. this would be wonderful, but sadly is not the case.
Being irresponsible will increase the chances of getting raped, and pretending it won't will give people a false sense of security.
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #127,072
@previous (A)
> A woman should be able to dress however she wants, and get drunk, alone, in any neighborhood, and be safe from rapists. this would be wonderful, but sadly is not the case.
I agree completely.
> A woman should be able to dress however she wants, and get drunk, alone, in any neighborhood, and be safe from rapists. this would be wonderful, but sadly is not the case.
I agree completely.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #127,081
@127,061 (F)
Oh course, nobody deserves it.
As I said, even in the most "asking for it" of scenarios, I'd still put 95% of the blame on the rapist. I agree with what you're saying there about how they've decided to rape of their own accord.
I'm just saying that there are certain avoidable things that can be addressed. Again, this would only apply in a borderline of cases, but not falling in with a bad crowd or not wearing that new playboy bunny outfit in a dark alleyway are things that can be avoided.
I agree, women should be able to dress however they want, and go whatever they want, without risk of being raped. But there's some suck fuckers out there. Some of them avoidable.
I gather that we agree on the "asking for it" scenario, they're very borderline cases. And even then, the blame is still, largely, with the rapist who decided to do it.
Oh course, nobody deserves it.
As I said, even in the most "asking for it" of scenarios, I'd still put 95% of the blame on the rapist. I agree with what you're saying there about how they've decided to rape of their own accord.
I'm just saying that there are certain avoidable things that can be addressed. Again, this would only apply in a borderline of cases, but not falling in with a bad crowd or not wearing that new playboy bunny outfit in a dark alleyway are things that can be avoided.
I agree, women should be able to dress however they want, and go whatever they want, without risk of being raped. But there's some suck fuckers out there. Some of them avoidable.
I gather that we agree on the "asking for it" scenario, they're very borderline cases. And even then, the blame is still, largely, with the rapist who decided to do it.
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Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #127,082
Seems no one so far has pointed out that a guy can dress up and end up a rape victim.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #127,085
@127,067 (A)
I didn't say that they shouldn't face consequences.
And hey, weren't you calling a feminist who was saying that the rapist is entirely to blame an idiot in the OP?
I didn't say that they shouldn't face consequences.
And hey, weren't you calling a feminist who was saying that the rapist is entirely to blame an idiot in the OP?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #127,087
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
I called her an idiot because she said the dress, getting drunk, and flirting do not cause rapes, which is untrue, they do contribute. She didn't say "who is to blame".
I called her an idiot because she said the dress, getting drunk, and flirting do not cause rapes, which is untrue, they do contribute. She didn't say "who is to blame".
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 14 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #127,615
protip !!pMmAiEwOm replied with this 15 years ago, 22 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #127,630
Anonymous P joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #127,736
ITT OP goes full derp and can't tell the difference between a factor and a cause.
protip !!pMmAiEwOm replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #127,833
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 18 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #127,843
> mfw Ac thinks helping women is misogyny
:')
:')
protip !!pMmAiEwOm replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #127,844
yfw mfw
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #127,848
Anonymous P replied with this 15 years ago, 3 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #127,998
@previous (mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos)
I'm not going to bother debating with you, because you are stupid.
I'm not going to bother debating with you, because you are stupid.
protip !!pMmAiEwOm joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 28 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #128,021
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 31 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #128,031
@127,833 (protip !!pMmAiEwOm)
I guess I also hate rich people, for telling them not to wave their money around while walking alone at night, downtown.
I guess I also hate rich people, for telling them not to wave their money around while walking alone at night, downtown.
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 15 years ago, 9 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #128,303
Compelling argument. @127,998 (P)
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #128,305
Maybe when I'm bald with a fat wife I'll be a grumpy fag too :') @128,021 (protip !!pMmAiEwOm)