this thread bloods, dude.
Hamfist hates him. He has my vote.
@previous (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
I don't hate him, I'm just skeptical of his promises to "restore" the Constitution and all of that dumb bullshit. Plus, his solution to everything is to cut government funding
Don't bother talking to MM, every time you give the guy a chance he pulls out his troll shtick.
@124,155 (sexual aerosol !!mtq555+/1)
Of course you don't hate him. Your post is a fair explanation of what he represents and is clearly not biased or over-simplified.
And government funding does need to be massively cut. Just because I support something doesn't mean I think it's ok to have whatever budget. Just because I think we're spending too much on something, doesn't mean I don't support that cause.
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He isn't the moral conservative you claim he is.
I would be more worried if hamfist loved Ron Paul LOL.
@124,207 (F)
He is a moral conservative, as I am. However, we don't believe we should use to state violence to force other people to act in accordance with our moral standards.
End drug prohibition. Legalize prostitution. End anti-sodomy legislation etc. Legalize R18+ games (that's for Australia lol)
@OP
> Ron Paul on the issues:
> * Abortion: EVERY CHILDS LIFE IS SACRED HOW CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT COMMIE
Ron Paul is one of the few politicians to not engage in party politics and name calling. Health is a state issue and abortion law should be made by states. Roe vs Wade should be overturned. There is no "right to abortion" in the constitution (there is nothing forbidding it either, hence why states should be free to legislate upon it).
> * American principles: NO MOAR GOVERNMENT
Small government is a traditional American principle.
"Wherever at the head of some new undertaking you see the government in France, or a man of rank in England, in the United States you will be sure to find an association." -Tocqueville
> * Civil rights: NO MOAR GOVERNMENT AND I'M THE ANTI-RACIST
People have rights as individuals, not groups. Racism is a collectivist philosphy which views people as groups, and is irreconcilable with Libertarianism.
> * Disabilities: NO MOAR GOVERNMENT
It is hard to know what you are talking about here.
> * Economy: NO MOAR GOVERNMENT
Free markets deliver the best price and the best quality. Government intervention should be minimal.
> * Education: NO MOAR GOVERNMENT
Education is not an area for the federal government to legislate upon. Rather, it is a state issue.
> * Energy & Environment: NO MOAR GOVERNMENT
Free markets will deliver the lowest price and best quality of energy. Government intervention in energy should be minimal.
Pollution is a terrible violation of individual rights and can not be allowed. It is the statist position that industry should be allowed to pollute the very area we breathe. The full cost to clean up pollution should be borne by the polluters.
> * Ethics: NO MOAR GOVERNMENT
Government should not attempt to change its citizens ethics with violent force.
> * Evolution: SCIENCE IS A MYTH. THE LORD CREATED EVERYTHING AND YOU CANT DISPROVE IT. Also NO MOAR GOVERNMENT
Evolution is not even a political issue, so I don't really care what he thinks about it. I don't care if he likes the same bands as me, either.
> * Family: NO MOAR GOVERNMENT
Hard to disagree there.
> * Fiscal: NO MOAR GOVERNMENT AND I LOVE GOLD
The federal reserve is not a federal agency and has testified to this in court. It is a private company with a monopoly. Ron Paul feels that the free market would be a better way to set interest rates.
lol he sure loves his gold LOL I wouldn't mind if the US$ kept falling, it makes your products really cheap here in Australia :')
> * Foreign Policy: NO MOAR GOVERNMENT
lolfail. Ron Paul supports bringing the US troops home from the 130 countries they are currently occupying. He opposes aggressive wars. He supports free trade and diplomacy.
> * Gay Rights: STATES HAVE A RIGHT TO DISCRIMINATE IF THEY WANT TO BECUZ IT'S THEIR RIGHT. Also NO MOAR GOVERNMENT
States should have the power to enact discriminatory laws (barring provisions in their state constitutions) but if those states had libertarian governors, they wouldn't.
> * Gun Control: NO MOAR GOVERNMENT
There would be a lot less massacres if good people had guns.
> * Health care: NO MOAR GOVERNMENT AND I LOOKED AT A LOT OF VAGOOS
Healthcare is currently screwed because of government intervention. Free markets provide the lowest cost and best quality.
> * Homeland Security: NO MOAR GOVERNMENT
We shouldn't trade liberty for security.
> * Immigration: NO MOAR MEXICANZ
LOLQUE? Immigration is only an issue because the economy sucks right now, but we still have a welfare state. People get angry when illegal immigrants "take" "their" jobs and claim certain benefits. We spend billions patrolling the Iraqi borders and leave our own borders unprotected.
> * Iraq: NO MOAR GOVERNMENT AND GIULIANI CAN KISS MY ASS
Amen! Let's bring the troops home.
> * Political Experience: I'VE SERVED TWENTY SEVEN TERMS AS A SENATOR NO ONE HAS EVER HEARD OF
lol just because you (are you even of voting age?) have never heard of him LOL
Take a look at his record. The only principled politician.
> * Poverty: NO MOAR GOVERNMENT
Government programs only exarcebate poverty. Price controls just don't work.
> * Prostitution: NO MOAR GOVERNMENT
Hard to argue with that.
> * Rural: NO MOAR GOVERNMENT
Why would they get special treatment? He would end many of their subsidies, though, and stop the unconstitutional prohibition of marijuana and hemp.
> * Service: NO MOAR GOVERNMENT
idk watt u mean
> * Seniors & Social Security: NO MOAR GOVERNMENT
Ron Paul would pay for our current social security obligation with the money saved from bringing the troops home and ending foreign aid. He would also allow young people to opt-out of social security.
> * Technology: NO MOAR GOVERNMENT
Free markets should decide which technology to invest in.
> * Use of the NO MOAR GOVERNMENT
???
> * Veterans: NO MOAR GOVERNMENT
VA hospitals are awful. The government should just pay for them to go to private hospitals.
@130,775 (H)
Which part of that don't you understand?
@130,778 (Voice of !WisdomHsuU)
Racism is a collectivist philosophy. It does not easily cohabit the theme of individualism implicit in much of libertarian though. Racism is a "progressive" doctrine.
Ron Paul is not a racist.
@previous (RonPaul2012 !4EB6xd.Oos)
Racism can exist with capitalism, but it is overcome with greed and transactions.
@previous (Voice of !WisdomHsuU)
you have an impossibly large definition of greed. every action that benefits ones self is not greed!
your point is correct though.
@previous (RonPaul2012 !4EB6xd.Oos)
The want to benefit one's self is greed.
@previous (RonPaul2012 !4EB6xd.Oos)
How is that not define greed?