Topic: Why I genuinely think that Trump supporters are evil, flawed creatures
Washing-Up Liquid™ !jKwXp9RUNE started this discussion 8 years ago #69,328
Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 1 hour later[^] [v] #839,526
@OPenis
Nice cuckpost.
Nice cuckpost.
Sheila LaBoof joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #839,529
@previous (Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo)
> enis
> Nice cuckpost.
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> enis
> Nice cuckpost.
covered in sweat, spent, spent of breath, spent of verve, spent of cum.
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 3 hours later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #839,562
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kook !!OPZbEQMT1 joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 6 hours later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #839,626
In that article it states that more people were deported during Obamas reign than Trumps.
That being said, I feel okay with granting citizenship to people who have no criminal convictions and have lived in the US for over 20 years.
But also don't the people in that article have any agency? One was here for 33 years without getting their citizenship in order. Why is that?
That being said, I feel okay with granting citizenship to people who have no criminal convictions and have lived in the US for over 20 years.
But also don't the people in that article have any agency? One was here for 33 years without getting their citizenship in order. Why is that?
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 8 years ago, 5 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #839,628
you often get the run around that goes on and on and on
there are those that were kids and had no idea about any of that bullshit and thought nothing about it
there are those that were kids and had no idea about any of that bullshit and thought nothing about it
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 1 minute later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #839,629
@839,626 (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
> One was here for 33 years without getting their citizenship in order. Why is that?
Legally because they came here illegally they cannot apply for even a Green card.
> One was here for 33 years without getting their citizenship in order. Why is that?
Legally because they came here illegally they cannot apply for even a Green card.
Fuck Dogg joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 1 minute later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #839,632
kook !!OPZbEQMT1 replied with this 8 years ago, 5 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #839,638
@839,629 (F)
I thought that you could apply for a temporary VISA and then go from there. Thank you for that info
I thought that you could apply for a temporary VISA and then go from there. Thank you for that info
kook !!OPZbEQMT1 double-posted this 8 years ago, 9 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #839,645
@839,629 (F)
I found something called a Cancellation of Removal
These are the requirements
You must meet certain requirements:
you must have been physically present in the U.S. for 10 years;
you must have good moral character during that time.
you must show "exceptional and extremely unusual" hardship to your U.S. citizen or lawful permanent resident spouse, parent or child if you were to be deported.
What does exceptional and unusual hardship mean, do you think?
I found something called a Cancellation of Removal
These are the requirements
You must meet certain requirements:
you must have been physically present in the U.S. for 10 years;
you must have good moral character during that time.
you must show "exceptional and extremely unusual" hardship to your U.S. citizen or lawful permanent resident spouse, parent or child if you were to be deported.
What does exceptional and unusual hardship mean, do you think?
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 8 years ago, 4 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #839,650
being forced to do stuff, being abused, stuff like that
kook !!OPZbEQMT1 replied with this 8 years ago, 1 minute later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #839,652
@previous (Sheila LaBoof)
Like experiencing those things in the parent country that you're running from?
Like experiencing those things in the parent country that you're running from?
Syntax replied with this 8 years ago, 12 seconds later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #839,653
@839,645 (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
> you must show "exceptional and extremely unusual" hardship to your U.S. citizen or lawful permanent resident spouse, parent or child if you were to be deported.
Multiple attempts have been used on this one with almost ZERO Success
> you must show "exceptional and extremely unusual" hardship to your U.S. citizen or lawful permanent resident spouse, parent or child if you were to be deported.
Multiple attempts have been used on this one with almost ZERO Success
Nationwide, immigration judges can approve only 4,000 cancellation applications per year from non-LPRs (people without green cards). The cap is reached very quickly. This means that even if you have an approvable cancellation application, the immigration judge will not be able to make a decision on your application until a "number" (in essence, a green card) becomes available again.
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 5 seconds later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #839,654
@839,626 (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
> In that article it states that more people were deported during Obamas reign than Trumps.
Wow, more people were deported in 8 years than in <1 year? Thanks Obama!
> In that article it states that more people were deported during Obamas reign than Trumps.
Wow, more people were deported in 8 years than in <1 year? Thanks Obama!
kook !!OPZbEQMT1 replied with this 8 years ago, 1 minute later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #839,655
@previous (H)
That was a statement from a seemingly anti Trump article, so they likely corrected for time
That was a statement from a seemingly anti Trump article, so they likely corrected for time
kook !!OPZbEQMT1 double-posted this 8 years ago, 1 minute later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #839,656
@839,653 (Syntax)
So we need to do something to allow non criminal, long time immigrants to stay permanently
So we need to do something to allow non criminal, long time immigrants to stay permanently
kook !!OPZbEQMT1 triple-posted this 8 years ago, 5 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #839,662
@839,654 (H)
The comparatively small drop in deportations is not necessarily a sign that the law and order candidate has gone soft. Unlike arrests, deportations are not instantaneous acts. But it signals that Trump so far hasn’t been able to carry out his campaign promises to push for mass deportations and arrests. He hasn’t even managed to beat former President Barack Obama’s record. Under the Obama administration, ICE agents arrested 29,238 undocumented immigrants in the first few months of 2014
https://www.google.com/amp/www.newsweek.com/illegal-immigration-undocumented-migrants-obama-trump-585726%3famp=1
The comparatively small drop in deportations is not necessarily a sign that the law and order candidate has gone soft. Unlike arrests, deportations are not instantaneous acts. But it signals that Trump so far hasn’t been able to carry out his campaign promises to push for mass deportations and arrests. He hasn’t even managed to beat former President Barack Obama’s record. Under the Obama administration, ICE agents arrested 29,238 undocumented immigrants in the first few months of 2014
https://www.google.com/amp/www.newsweek.com/illegal-immigration-undocumented-migrants-obama-trump-585726%3famp=1
(Edited 1 minute later.)
Syntax replied with this 8 years ago, 56 seconds later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #839,663
@839,656 (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
Not according to Trump.
Currently Democrats are holding Trump hostage on the next official budget plan.
Trump figures by sending the kids back to country of origin there will be jobs to fill by official citizens
Not according to Trump.
Currently Democrats are holding Trump hostage on the next official budget plan.
Trump figures by sending the kids back to country of origin there will be jobs to fill by official citizens
kook !!OPZbEQMT1 replied with this 8 years ago, 1 minute later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #839,664
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 4 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #839,668
Syntax replied with this 8 years ago, 3 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #839,670
@839,664 (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
Imagine a case where the child was 6 months old and does not even speak the language of origin. In the case of locals here just outside my 15 mile zone are many Christian Syrians aka Chaldeans in El Cajon Ca and imagine a 13 year old who is deported to Syria where there religion does not mix well with Rag Heads plus there may be no relatives alive or even the village the parents came from may no longer exist.
Imagine a case where the child was 6 months old and does not even speak the language of origin. In the case of locals here just outside my 15 mile zone are many Christian Syrians aka Chaldeans in El Cajon Ca and imagine a 13 year old who is deported to Syria where there religion does not mix well with Rag Heads plus there may be no relatives alive or even the village the parents came from may no longer exist.
Anonymous I replied with this 8 years ago, 42 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #839,671
kook !!OPZbEQMT1 replied with this 8 years ago, 27 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #839,684
kook !!OPZbEQMT1 double-posted this 8 years ago, 40 seconds later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #839,685
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 4 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #839,689
@839,662 (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)It's interesting they would compare the first few months of 2014 and 2017. I guess that was a record time or something, but comparing the high watermark of an 8 year period with the first few months of a 1 year period isn't making much of a point - especially if you aren't explaining it further and attributing it to a single factor.
The ICE web site has plenty of statistics if you want to check out how the switch in administrations looked without cherry picking the numbers.
https://www.ice.gov/removal-statistics/2017
kook !!OPZbEQMT1 replied with this 8 years ago, 10 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #839,692
@previous (J)
Thanks for this.
I found this.
Figure 13 shows the removals over the past three fiscal years as a result of an ICE arrest. While total removals declined from 240,255 in FY2016 to 226,119 in FY2017, the proportion resulting from ICE arrests increased from 65,332, or 27 percent of total removals in FY2016 to 81,603, or 36 percent of total removals in FY2017. Despite the 6 percent decline in overall removals as shown in Figure 14, ICE removed 25 percent more aliens arrested during interior enforcement activities in FY2017 compared to the previous year. This surge in interior removals nearly offset the 17 percent decline in border removals, which mirrored the trend of fewer book-ins of border apprehensions.
The decrease in ICE’s overall removal numbers from FY2016 to FY2017 was primarily due to the decline in border apprehensions in 2017. Many fewer aliens were apprehended at the border in FY2017 than in FY2016—possibly reflecting an increased deterrent effect from ICE’s stronger interior enforcement efforts. The drop in border apprehensions contributed to a decrease in total ICE-ERO removal numbers, as the majority of aliens arriving at the border are processed under the provisions of expedited removal and are removed quickly, while aliens arrested in the interior are more likely to have protracted immigration proceedings and appeals, which delays the issuance of an executable final order of removal. These cases also frequently require a more complex and lengthy process to obtain travel documents, further delaying the process
It seems as though there are more arrests but less deportations. Especially deportations do to catching people at the border.
Am I reading that right?
Thanks for this.
I found this.
Figure 13 shows the removals over the past three fiscal years as a result of an ICE arrest. While total removals declined from 240,255 in FY2016 to 226,119 in FY2017, the proportion resulting from ICE arrests increased from 65,332, or 27 percent of total removals in FY2016 to 81,603, or 36 percent of total removals in FY2017. Despite the 6 percent decline in overall removals as shown in Figure 14, ICE removed 25 percent more aliens arrested during interior enforcement activities in FY2017 compared to the previous year. This surge in interior removals nearly offset the 17 percent decline in border removals, which mirrored the trend of fewer book-ins of border apprehensions.
The decrease in ICE’s overall removal numbers from FY2016 to FY2017 was primarily due to the decline in border apprehensions in 2017. Many fewer aliens were apprehended at the border in FY2017 than in FY2016—possibly reflecting an increased deterrent effect from ICE’s stronger interior enforcement efforts. The drop in border apprehensions contributed to a decrease in total ICE-ERO removal numbers, as the majority of aliens arriving at the border are processed under the provisions of expedited removal and are removed quickly, while aliens arrested in the interior are more likely to have protracted immigration proceedings and appeals, which delays the issuance of an executable final order of removal. These cases also frequently require a more complex and lengthy process to obtain travel documents, further delaying the process
It seems as though there are more arrests but less deportations. Especially deportations do to catching people at the border.
Am I reading that right?
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 8 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #839,693
You never cared when Obama deported people. Is it more intimate and loving when the guy deporting 2.5 million illegal immigrants has a D instead of an R after his name?
Anonymous J replied with this 8 years ago, 6 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #839,696
@839,692 (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)It looks like they are considering an arrest as detaining someone while a removal is deporting them or turning them back at the border. They are also drawing a distinction between border actions (stopping or turning people away at border checkpoints) and interior enforcement that involves people already within the country. It sounds like they are stepping up interior enforcement compared with other years.
You can put other years on the end of that url for older reports. The report for 2016 would be: https://www.ice.gov/removal-statistics/2016
The older reports will be a little more complete (2017 isn't over yet) and show wider trends.