Topic: Thinking about joining the army.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 started this discussion 15 years ago #6,900
I'm sick of not having any financial security/independence. I like the idea of just signing up instead of having to go through a painful interview process, fighting with other people just to get my foot in the door. I also like the idea of being guaranteed steady pay, food, and a roof over my head, instead of dealing with employers who don't give a shit that the money they pay you is not enough to live off of. Since I have a Bachelors degree, I could go into the military as an officer, after basic training and Officer Candidate School. Since my degree is in anthropology, I could get a job as a Human Intelligence Collector or Intelligence Analyst, so it's one of the few career fields where my degree is useful. I'm also thinking it would be a great way to get into the CIA later.
So, is there anyone here in the military or considering joining the military for similar reasons? Thoughts? Advice?
So, is there anyone here in the military or considering joining the military for similar reasons? Thoughts? Advice?
Nimj joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 55 seconds later[^] [v] #120,939
lol
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 4 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #120,941
Nimj replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #120,942
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 20 seconds later, 5 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #120,943
Meowth joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 10 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #120,947
@OP
Go for it bro! Make me proud because I got rejected. Serving in the military definitely ensures you a job for the rest of your life inside and outside the military. It's also nice that they pay for your housing and schooling if wanted. Lifetime health benefits. There's just so much advantages. Also, if you want discipline, this would be good for you. That's partially why I wanted to get in.
Go for it bro! Make me proud because I got rejected. Serving in the military definitely ensures you a job for the rest of your life inside and outside the military. It's also nice that they pay for your housing and schooling if wanted. Lifetime health benefits. There's just so much advantages. Also, if you want discipline, this would be good for you. That's partially why I wanted to get in.
Ks !KansasxqvM joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 16 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #120,950
The military is fantastic choice for some people, others hate it. The bitch is, the longer you sign up for the better package you get. Its a big decision, one you could completely and totally fucking regret (and hate life for the next 2-4 years) or a decision that changes your life forever. I almost joined myself at one point, but life had other plans for me. You seem like the type that would thrive in a military environment.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 20 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #120,951
@120,947 (Meowth)
> I got rejected.
I took the ASVAB in high school and scored in the 93rd percentile if I remember correctly. I scored in the 99th percentile on some parts of the test. All branches were fighting over me, and I was thinking about going in, but I wanted to put college first. My mom got a job at the University, which got me free tuition, so there was no reason for me to use the military to pay for college or anything like that. Now that I've graduated, I reconsidering it, and since I have a degree I would go in as an officer. Doing college first is the way to go.
> Serving in the military definitely ensures you a job for the rest of your life inside and outside the military.
Absolutely. I want to use it to get my foot in the door with the CIA.
> It's also nice that they pay for your housing and schooling if wanted. Lifetime health benefits. There's just so much advantages. Also, if you want discipline, this would be good for you. That's partially why I wanted to get in.
I can agree with all of that.
> I got rejected.
I took the ASVAB in high school and scored in the 93rd percentile if I remember correctly. I scored in the 99th percentile on some parts of the test. All branches were fighting over me, and I was thinking about going in, but I wanted to put college first. My mom got a job at the University, which got me free tuition, so there was no reason for me to use the military to pay for college or anything like that. Now that I've graduated, I reconsidering it, and since I have a degree I would go in as an officer. Doing college first is the way to go.
> Serving in the military definitely ensures you a job for the rest of your life inside and outside the military.
Absolutely. I want to use it to get my foot in the door with the CIA.
> It's also nice that they pay for your housing and schooling if wanted. Lifetime health benefits. There's just so much advantages. Also, if you want discipline, this would be good for you. That's partially why I wanted to get in.
I can agree with all of that.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 24 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #120,952
@120,950 (Ks !KansasxqvM)
Thanks. I could see it going either way for me. I like working around people who are disciplined, alert, and competent, but I'm also sort of a free spirit and I feel like I would be miserable for that reason, but I could use the discipline and get used to it. Worst case scenario I would only do it for 4 years or so and then use it to take me elsewhere.
Thanks. I could see it going either way for me. I like working around people who are disciplined, alert, and competent, but I'm also sort of a free spirit and I feel like I would be miserable for that reason, but I could use the discipline and get used to it. Worst case scenario I would only do it for 4 years or so and then use it to take me elsewhere.
Nexus !jNexusRe/. joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 27 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #120,953
The army is for pussies, join the Marines and be a man.
Meowth replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 31 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #120,956
@120,951 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
I don't remember what I got on the ASVAB, but I know it was 70 something. I was underweight at 110 pounds. Minimum for my height 130. Oh well. I may reapply in the future if I can ever gain any weight.
I don't remember what I got on the ASVAB, but I know it was 70 something. I was underweight at 110 pounds. Minimum for my height 130. Oh well. I may reapply in the future if I can ever gain any weight.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 38 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #120,958
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 11 seconds later, 38 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #120,959
@120,951 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
I fucking hate when people brag about their asvab scores. It was so easy, man. Nothing to brag about.
I fucking hate when people brag about their asvab scores. It was so easy, man. Nothing to brag about.
Born this Way !dLadyGAgAA joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 14 seconds later, 38 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #120,960
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 35 seconds later, 39 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #120,961
@120,956 (Meowth)
Why are you having so much trouble gaining weight? You should do some serious bulking up.
Why are you having so much trouble gaining weight? You should do some serious bulking up.
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 20 seconds later, 39 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #120,962
@120,939 (Nimj)
that was my reaction
Go for it Broseph, you're going to fucking hate it. I hope I don't have to see you till we stop killing sand niggers.
that was my reaction
Go for it Broseph, you're going to fucking hate it. I hope I don't have to see you till we stop killing sand niggers.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 42 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #120,963
@120,959 (G)
I agree, it was easy, and not bragging, just stating. Being in the 99th percentile is good no matter how easy it is, though.
I agree, it was easy, and not bragging, just stating. Being in the 99th percentile is good no matter how easy it is, though.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 43 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #120,964
@120,962 (I)
What makes you think I'll hate it? Have you served in the military? Also, why all the hate?
What makes you think I'll hate it? Have you served in the military? Also, why all the hate?
Born this Way !dLadyGAgAA replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 45 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #120,966
@previous (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
A lot of people here think you're really annoying and take everything way too seriously.
A lot of people here think you're really annoying and take everything way too seriously.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 49 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #120,967
Nimj replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 54 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #120,969
Meowth replied with this 15 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #120,972
@120,961 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
I have no fuckin' idea! I just look as it as it's not my thing, but if I ever do gain weight I'll see what happens.
I have no fuckin' idea! I just look as it as it's not my thing, but if I ever do gain weight I'll see what happens.
Nexus !jNexusRe/. replied with this 15 years ago, 16 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #120,974
@120,958 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
the army is great for a career, being an officer, etc. if you want to serve, and have a chance too see combat, Enlist in the corps, and volunteer for FORECON.
the army is great for a career, being an officer, etc. if you want to serve, and have a chance too see combat, Enlist in the corps, and volunteer for FORECON.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 31 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #120,985
@previous (Nexus !jNexusRe/.)
Yeah, I'd rather not. Having a chance to see combat sounds fun, but there's no reason not to avoid it if you can. I won't be volunteering for any high risk black-ops missions. Anyone who actually wants to be on the front line because they think it's like a video game is a moron. Don't get me wrong, the equipment you get to work with sounds like fun, and I'm sure it is fun to some extent when no one is getting injured or killed, but anyone who goes into the military JUST for the combat is a moron. If I do see combat, I will make the most of it though. FORECON sounds fun on paper, but I don't see myself doing that kind of intel work. We'll see where my career takes me. I'm leaning towards Army for the human intel aspects, and also because I might go national guard/reserve, go back to school, pick up some engineering degrees, work for Army Corp of Engineers, etc. Not sure what I'm doing yet. I'm probably gonna spend all day Monday going around and talking to recruiters. At the very least I will ask a Marine recruiter about FORECON, thank you.
Yeah, I'd rather not. Having a chance to see combat sounds fun, but there's no reason not to avoid it if you can. I won't be volunteering for any high risk black-ops missions. Anyone who actually wants to be on the front line because they think it's like a video game is a moron. Don't get me wrong, the equipment you get to work with sounds like fun, and I'm sure it is fun to some extent when no one is getting injured or killed, but anyone who goes into the military JUST for the combat is a moron. If I do see combat, I will make the most of it though. FORECON sounds fun on paper, but I don't see myself doing that kind of intel work. We'll see where my career takes me. I'm leaning towards Army for the human intel aspects, and also because I might go national guard/reserve, go back to school, pick up some engineering degrees, work for Army Corp of Engineers, etc. Not sure what I'm doing yet. I'm probably gonna spend all day Monday going around and talking to recruiters. At the very least I will ask a Marine recruiter about FORECON, thank you.
Nexus !jNexusRe/. replied with this 15 years ago, 12 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #120,990
@previous (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
I plan on trying for FORECON, if i make it that far, my dream is being a scout sniper, The exotic nature of the operations draws my interest.
Its not all about combat, solid Intel for a Battalion Commander is priceless on the battlefield, The small things you might observe in FORECON could turn out to be vital to major decisions made during the war.
I see why you would want to join the army, You have a very specific idea of what you want from the military, and the Army/Navy has the capacity to fill that niche. You might ask the Marine recruiter about HUMINT operations with [the] Combined Action Program, if you are really interested in espionage.
I plan on trying for FORECON, if i make it that far, my dream is being a scout sniper, The exotic nature of the operations draws my interest.
Its not all about combat, solid Intel for a Battalion Commander is priceless on the battlefield, The small things you might observe in FORECON could turn out to be vital to major decisions made during the war.
I see why you would want to join the army, You have a very specific idea of what you want from the military, and the Army/Navy has the capacity to fill that niche. You might ask the Marine recruiter about HUMINT operations with [the] Combined Action Program, if you are really interested in espionage.
Handel !khEOdtKF56 joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #121,001
So let me get this straight, you're joining the Army because your lazy?
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 3 hours later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #121,063
@OP
you want to travel every 2 years? Good pay? Not get your head cut off? Join the USAF as an officer. You could do intel or AFOSI which is kinda like the CIA. Look at a list if AF bases in America and overseas then look at the locations for the other branches. Trust me man if you really want to join do it as an officer in the AF. Don't be a maintenance or munitions/nuke officer or a missile officer. And forget flying, that is reserved mostly for the golden boys from the academy.
you want to travel every 2 years? Good pay? Not get your head cut off? Join the USAF as an officer. You could do intel or AFOSI which is kinda like the CIA. Look at a list if AF bases in America and overseas then look at the locations for the other branches. Trust me man if you really want to join do it as an officer in the AF. Don't be a maintenance or munitions/nuke officer or a missile officer. And forget flying, that is reserved mostly for the golden boys from the academy.
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #121,126
You should do it OP. It'll be the only job left one day.
Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 27 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #121,127
Does it mean you'll never post here again?
Syntax joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 25 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #121,136
@OP
> Since my degree is in anthropology, I could get a job as a Human Intelligence Collector or Intelligence Analyst, so it's one of the few career fields where my degree is useful. I'm also thinking it would be a great way to get into the CIA later.
>
> So, is there anyone here in the military or considering joining the military for similar reasons?
> Thoughts? Advice?
If your ultimate goal is to get into one of the intelligence agencies (there are 3) CIA is the smallest and has the smallest budget.
If so then you 1st should use Google for a look see at what kind of people they hire.
Then look up NSA because the "analysis" budget is zillions time larger then the other agency.
Then using Google take a look see at what kind of people they hire.
There are huge differences between the two agencies on skills required.
Military? then transition t0 one of the Three agencies? Not what I viewed inside
The third agency? You will have to look that one up on your own and its the one with the LARGEST budget and the least known.
> Since my degree is in anthropology, I could get a job as a Human Intelligence Collector or Intelligence Analyst, so it's one of the few career fields where my degree is useful. I'm also thinking it would be a great way to get into the CIA later.
>
> So, is there anyone here in the military or considering joining the military for similar reasons?
> Thoughts? Advice?
If your ultimate goal is to get into one of the intelligence agencies (there are 3) CIA is the smallest and has the smallest budget.
If so then you 1st should use Google for a look see at what kind of people they hire.
Then look up NSA because the "analysis" budget is zillions time larger then the other agency.
Then using Google take a look see at what kind of people they hire.
There are huge differences between the two agencies on skills required.
Military? then transition t0 one of the Three agencies? Not what I viewed inside
The third agency? You will have to look that one up on your own and its the one with the LARGEST budget and the least known.
Anonymous K replied with this 15 years ago, 17 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #121,146
@previous (Syntax)
CIA is smallest? The CIA has around 20000 or so while the NRO has somewhere around 3000 employees.
Wait, you know the size of the budgets? I'm calling bullshit on that. I believe you are talking out of your ass on this one.
CIA is smallest? The CIA has around 20000 or so while the NRO has somewhere around 3000 employees.
Wait, you know the size of the budgets? I'm calling bullshit on that. I believe you are talking out of your ass on this one.
cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #121,149
Anonymous L replied with this 15 years ago, 26 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #121,151
@121,146 (K)
@121,136 (Syntax)
CIA actually has more money at it's disposal than the others because they have many off-balance sheet income streams.
Kickbacks for letting drugs flow freely though places like Mena, AK don't show up in the official accounting.
@121,136 (Syntax)
CIA actually has more money at it's disposal than the others because they have many off-balance sheet income streams.
Kickbacks for letting drugs flow freely though places like Mena, AK don't show up in the official accounting.
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Stealth replied with this 15 years ago, 14 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #121,152
@121,146 (K)
No in fact I do not know the amount of the current budget
The best source of information on total number of employees and size of budgets that I know of is from EB, and NOT Wiki and any library has a hard copy set of EB's
No in fact I do not know the amount of the current budget
The best source of information on total number of employees and size of budgets that I know of is from EB, and NOT Wiki and any library has a hard copy set of EB's
Anonymous K replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #121,155
@previous (Stealth)
EB? Encyclopedia Britannica? Seriously, is that what EB means? And you do not know the size of the current budget. No way you know that sir. I have to respectfully disagree.
EB? Encyclopedia Britannica? Seriously, is that what EB means? And you do not know the size of the current budget. No way you know that sir. I have to respectfully disagree.
Mindblast !!4IKKtS9GG joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #121,158
Go for it, you'll always have something to talk about.
Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 9 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #121,165
@121,155 (K)
Yes that is what EB means. Much too early after yesterdays super great amazing wonderful long fun day and then on cuming home very late to must work on a shitty brand new GEO for TV HD - and 2day is shaping up for another terrific fun day as well 4me to attempt to sperl the B all out with this crappy Chrome sperl checker.
There wood be no way for me to know the current numbers as my CLEARANCES are expired. Nor did I never ever know them EXACTLY once upon a tyme. Super high level rite on top high mucky mucks wood remind me to go to the other guy cause what we needed doing was best done with other guys larger budget and or people. Its all need to know, no matter the clearance so NO Not once have I viewed the Secrete books of USA.
One with eyes can compare facilities over a period of tyme and add 1+1+1+1 or really A+B+DIY+R=X-1
Also if one looks as a program such as Echelon one might add up the mass of people on contract that are not on the books of a given agency that wood effect totals and that is a huge huge number of warm bodies, and of course includes people from 4 other countries.
I mention Echelon specifically because it as a program does use a HUGE number of peoples and Analysis's groups who work on the data mined.
Yes that is what EB means. Much too early after yesterdays super great amazing wonderful long fun day and then on cuming home very late to must work on a shitty brand new GEO for TV HD - and 2day is shaping up for another terrific fun day as well 4me to attempt to sperl the B all out with this crappy Chrome sperl checker.
There wood be no way for me to know the current numbers as my CLEARANCES are expired. Nor did I never ever know them EXACTLY once upon a tyme. Super high level rite on top high mucky mucks wood remind me to go to the other guy cause what we needed doing was best done with other guys larger budget and or people. Its all need to know, no matter the clearance so NO Not once have I viewed the Secrete books of USA.
One with eyes can compare facilities over a period of tyme and add 1+1+1+1 or really A+B+DIY+R=X-1
Also if one looks as a program such as Echelon one might add up the mass of people on contract that are not on the books of a given agency that wood effect totals and that is a huge huge number of warm bodies, and of course includes people from 4 other countries.
I mention Echelon specifically because it as a program does use a HUGE number of peoples and Analysis's groups who work on the data mined.
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Anonymous K replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #121,170
@previous (Syntax)
Another long day of fun? You are one active person lol! As for the budgets yes they are classified (a fact that probably had to be declassified). What is a GEO? like the shitty car? I thought you were a mechanical engineer or was it electrical? Forgive me I cannot remember.
Another long day of fun? You are one active person lol! As for the budgets yes they are classified (a fact that probably had to be declassified). What is a GEO? like the shitty car? I thought you were a mechanical engineer or was it electrical? Forgive me I cannot remember.
cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w replied with this 15 years ago, 12 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #121,178
Honestly, this is the some of the worst reasoning for going into the military that I could possibly imagine.
It really seems to come down to your ego. Tell me where if I've misstated your thinking here: you're failing in the job market and don't really have marketable skills, thus you'd rather avoid future interviews and just go back to the one place that will take just about anyone and is so stuffed with idiots, you may just have a chance of feeling smart for once. Is that about right?
Military life is hard and requires a great deal of commitment, and it's pretty fucking condescending for you to think it's merely the government's safety net for those who can't hack it in the real world. Thinking that it's unusual or bragworthy that all the military branches were "fighting over" you in high school really speaks to your disconnect from reality. They do that for fucking everybody.
Rewrite your resume, do some volunteering, go back to school for a second bachelors or an MBA, learn how to network and not offend every woman you meet with your misogyny. Do an honest assessment of your skills and work performance (your boss[es] will likely be more than happy to help you with this if you drop the defensive bullshit about them not caring if you can regularly afford yachts $250 of alcohol, since in reality all any employer cares about is paying a wage competitive enough to keep the level of skills & talent they need). Then go fix the areas where you're lacking.
You have no compelling reason to join the military, and believe me, people in the military will pick up on how superior you already consider yourself (despite all evidence).
It really seems to come down to your ego. Tell me where if I've misstated your thinking here: you're failing in the job market and don't really have marketable skills, thus you'd rather avoid future interviews and just go back to the one place that will take just about anyone and is so stuffed with idiots, you may just have a chance of feeling smart for once. Is that about right?
Military life is hard and requires a great deal of commitment, and it's pretty fucking condescending for you to think it's merely the government's safety net for those who can't hack it in the real world. Thinking that it's unusual or bragworthy that all the military branches were "fighting over" you in high school really speaks to your disconnect from reality. They do that for fucking everybody.
Rewrite your resume, do some volunteering, go back to school for a second bachelors or an MBA, learn how to network and not offend every woman you meet with your misogyny. Do an honest assessment of your skills and work performance (your boss[es] will likely be more than happy to help you with this if you drop the defensive bullshit about them not caring if you can regularly afford yachts $250 of alcohol, since in reality all any employer cares about is paying a wage competitive enough to keep the level of skills & talent they need). Then go fix the areas where you're lacking.
You have no compelling reason to join the military, and believe me, people in the military will pick up on how superior you already consider yourself (despite all evidence).
protip !!pMmAiEwOm joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #121,183
Anonymous K replied with this 15 years ago, 16 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #121,184
@121,178 (cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w)
Lol about the military fighting over everybody. Are you in HR or something?
Lol about the military fighting over everybody. Are you in HR or something?
cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w replied with this 15 years ago, 13 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #121,197
@previous (K)
No. I do interview people a fair amount for open positions in my department, but pretty much everyone does that where I work.
No. I do interview people a fair amount for open positions in my department, but pretty much everyone does that where I work.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 20 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #121,206
@120,990 (Nexus !jNexusRe/.)
@121,063 (K)
Thanks guys. Invaluable advice.
@121,001 (Handel !khEOdtKF56)
@121,178 (cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w)
No, I'm not lazy at all. The problem is the current job market is a catch-22, where they don't want to hire people without experience and specialization, and you can't get a job to get those things because no one will hire fresh blood. The military will take you no matter what, I would go in as an officer, getting officer pay while in training, I have a specific niche they're looking for, and it would get me the experience and specialization that I need to open doors in the job market, specifically CIA.
@121,127 (M)
I'll post here if I have time and internet access. I see military people on Facebook all the time.
@121,063 (K)
Thanks guys. Invaluable advice.
@121,001 (Handel !khEOdtKF56)
@121,178 (cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w)
No, I'm not lazy at all. The problem is the current job market is a catch-22, where they don't want to hire people without experience and specialization, and you can't get a job to get those things because no one will hire fresh blood. The military will take you no matter what, I would go in as an officer, getting officer pay while in training, I have a specific niche they're looking for, and it would get me the experience and specialization that I need to open doors in the job market, specifically CIA.
@121,127 (M)
I'll post here if I have time and internet access. I see military people on Facebook all the time.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #121,207
@121,178 (cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w)
> Rewrite your resume, do some volunteering, go back to school for a second bachelors or an MBA, learn how to network and not offend every woman you meet with your misogyny. Do an honest assessment of your skills and work performance (your boss[es] will likely be more than happy to help you with this if you drop the defensive bullshit about them not caring if you can regularly afford yachts $250 of alcohol, since in reality all any employer cares about is paying a wage competitive enough to keep the level of skills & talent they need). Then go fix the areas where you're lacking.
First of all, I am not a misogynist, regardless of what you think. Most girls consider me "the nice guy." I didn't spend $250 on alcohol, my friend did. I'm really starting to question your reading skills, because you misinterpret the things I say all the time. And it's not that I lack skills, commitment, or anything else you mentioned, I just don't have the job experience or background to prove it on a resume. Nor do I have a superiority complex. I realize that there are going to be recruits below me that have more knowledge and experience than I do, and I plan on respecting and learning from them. I never said I considered the military a safety net, or that it would be easy. It just seems like a good place to start a career. I know it's going to be hard and take commitment, and that another reason I want to do it. I want the discipline and I want to take the high road.
> Rewrite your resume, do some volunteering, go back to school for a second bachelors or an MBA, learn how to network and not offend every woman you meet with your misogyny. Do an honest assessment of your skills and work performance (your boss[es] will likely be more than happy to help you with this if you drop the defensive bullshit about them not caring if you can regularly afford yachts $250 of alcohol, since in reality all any employer cares about is paying a wage competitive enough to keep the level of skills & talent they need). Then go fix the areas where you're lacking.
First of all, I am not a misogynist, regardless of what you think. Most girls consider me "the nice guy." I didn't spend $250 on alcohol, my friend did. I'm really starting to question your reading skills, because you misinterpret the things I say all the time. And it's not that I lack skills, commitment, or anything else you mentioned, I just don't have the job experience or background to prove it on a resume. Nor do I have a superiority complex. I realize that there are going to be recruits below me that have more knowledge and experience than I do, and I plan on respecting and learning from them. I never said I considered the military a safety net, or that it would be easy. It just seems like a good place to start a career. I know it's going to be hard and take commitment, and that another reason I want to do it. I want the discipline and I want to take the high road.
Born this Way !dLadyGAgAA replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #121,209
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #121,210
@previous (Born this Way !dLadyGAgAA)
Don't bother, I'd rather not start anything, and I'm off to work soon. I'd rather focus on the constructive criticism and advice and ignore anything that just tries to tear me down. I have considered going back to school, but this seems like a wiser decision.
Don't bother, I'd rather not start anything, and I'm off to work soon. I'd rather focus on the constructive criticism and advice and ignore anything that just tries to tear me down. I have considered going back to school, but this seems like a wiser decision.
Born this Way !dLadyGAgAA replied with this 15 years ago, 10 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #121,214
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #121,216
Anonymous R joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #121,218
cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #121,219
@121,207 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
> First of all, I am not a misogynist, regardless of what you think. Most girls consider me "the nice guy."
Gotcha. You're just one of those gents who likes to call rape victims "bitches" for not cheering on their rapists, and resents the fact that women get time off when they're about to pop out babies, and well -- fuck I forget the rest, and don't really care to search more. Point is you suck.
> I didn't spend $250 on alcohol, my friend did. I'm really starting to question your reading skills, because you misinterpret the things I say all the time. And it's not that I lack skills, commitment, or anything else you mentioned, I just don't have the job experience or background to prove it on a resume.
There are lots of entry-level jobs available now. There are a number of companies, including some major ones, which actually prefer to hire with relatively little relevant experience, and then mold the employees the way they like. Especially for entry level, it's imperative to get to know someone inside a company so your resume gets a second look. Someone who can speak to the fact that you're a nice guy to work with, though I understand why that might be hard to find.
I'm convinced you're either not job hunting in an intelligent way, or letting your attitude get in the way about work being beneath you. It could also be that when prospective employers go to call your references, they find out that...
> Nor do I have a superiority complex.
Of course not, you just say things like, "Why the hell are people like this my superiors?" and "the people I work with are fucking idiots" and mock the idea that your silly stupid supervisor "gets to" criticize you. You also think a high school aptitude test and a (hold on to your seats, kids) actual bachelors degree (!) means the military will roll out the red carpet for you career-wise.
My experience has been that people who show aptitude, tend to get rewarded for it; the fact that you're floundering professionally and haven't taken any meaningful steps to fix it means something is wrong with you and you will just repeat your mistakes wherever you go.
You have a bad attitude about work, and have done nothing so far except fail; you are contemptuous of your superiors and can't accept criticism; you're creepy/really emotionally fragile; and you think you're going to succeed in the military?
> First of all, I am not a misogynist, regardless of what you think. Most girls consider me "the nice guy."
Gotcha. You're just one of those gents who likes to call rape victims "bitches" for not cheering on their rapists, and resents the fact that women get time off when they're about to pop out babies, and well -- fuck I forget the rest, and don't really care to search more. Point is you suck.
> I didn't spend $250 on alcohol, my friend did. I'm really starting to question your reading skills, because you misinterpret the things I say all the time. And it's not that I lack skills, commitment, or anything else you mentioned, I just don't have the job experience or background to prove it on a resume.
There are lots of entry-level jobs available now. There are a number of companies, including some major ones, which actually prefer to hire with relatively little relevant experience, and then mold the employees the way they like. Especially for entry level, it's imperative to get to know someone inside a company so your resume gets a second look. Someone who can speak to the fact that you're a nice guy to work with, though I understand why that might be hard to find.
I'm convinced you're either not job hunting in an intelligent way, or letting your attitude get in the way about work being beneath you. It could also be that when prospective employers go to call your references, they find out that...
> Nor do I have a superiority complex.
Of course not, you just say things like, "Why the hell are people like this my superiors?" and "the people I work with are fucking idiots" and mock the idea that your silly stupid supervisor "gets to" criticize you. You also think a high school aptitude test and a (hold on to your seats, kids) actual bachelors degree (!) means the military will roll out the red carpet for you career-wise.
My experience has been that people who show aptitude, tend to get rewarded for it; the fact that you're floundering professionally and haven't taken any meaningful steps to fix it means something is wrong with you and you will just repeat your mistakes wherever you go.
You have a bad attitude about work, and have done nothing so far except fail; you are contemptuous of your superiors and can't accept criticism; you're creepy/really emotionally fragile; and you think you're going to succeed in the military?
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Tekamine !AnRbswGQv. joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 16 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #121,238
@OP
At least do something that you're not on the frontline and you can earn a fuck load of money when you leave. Over here, we have the REME (Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers) or the Signals. You could easily walk into a job after service, and all the training is free.
At least do something that you're not on the frontline and you can earn a fuck load of money when you leave. Over here, we have the REME (Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers) or the Signals. You could easily walk into a job after service, and all the training is free.
Anonymous T joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #121,240
@121,219 (cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w)
> You also think a high school aptitude test and a (hold on to your seats, kids) actual bachelors degree (!)
I love you cccuuunnttt. <3
> You also think a high school aptitude test and a (hold on to your seats, kids) actual bachelors degree (!)
I love you cccuuunnttt. <3
Handel !khEOdtKF56 replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #121,241
Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 20 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #121,263
@121,170 (K)
Geosynchronous satellites. Over 300 of them up now and yes some parked in Orbit to fall one day sooner then later eye hope. Arthur C. Clarke Si Fi ritter and Ham Radio operator in England and of fame as Space Oddesy
2001 came up with math for basic orbits that work and that was back in 1945 or so as published. Hughes Aircraft my former super great employer put up the first and many many of them (now Boeing) and HAC gets credit for inventing a working GEO by one hell of an engineer.
Geosynchronous satellites. Over 300 of them up now and yes some parked in Orbit to fall one day sooner then later eye hope. Arthur C. Clarke Si Fi ritter and Ham Radio operator in England and of fame as Space Oddesy
2001 came up with math for basic orbits that work and that was back in 1945 or so as published. Hughes Aircraft my former super great employer put up the first and many many of them (now Boeing) and HAC gets credit for inventing a working GEO by one hell of an engineer.
Syntax double-posted this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #121,264
One wood wonder why OP bothered to get a degree in something that has a history of needing a full PhD for a real job in field.
Its a go all the way or end up with a degree good for flipping burgers
Its a go all the way or end up with a degree good for flipping burgers
Tekamine !AnRbswGQv. replied with this 15 years ago, 13 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #121,274
Anonymous I replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #121,277
@121,264 (Syntax)
...because he's not that smart. But you're illiterate and claim to control a satellite network for the government; I don't think you're the one who should be throwing stones.
...because he's not that smart. But you're illiterate and claim to control a satellite network for the government; I don't think you're the one who should be throwing stones.
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cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #121,280
@121,264 (Syntax)
Most people end up with jobs unrelated to their majors. Truthfully, I've never heard anyone with much experience in the corporate world (or even much out of college) repeating this nonsense.
If you do have an unrelated degree, it may be a little harder to get your foot in the door and you'll need to work harder to package yourself as a candidate -- but it doesn't mean you're unhireable by any stretch of the imagination.
Most people end up with jobs unrelated to their majors. Truthfully, I've never heard anyone with much experience in the corporate world (or even much out of college) repeating this nonsense.
If you do have an unrelated degree, it may be a little harder to get your foot in the door and you'll need to work harder to package yourself as a candidate -- but it doesn't mean you're unhireable by any stretch of the imagination.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #121,328
@121,219 (cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w)
First of all, just because I call one girl a bitch for reasons you don't agree with doesn't mean I am a misogynist.
A lot of the people I work with are incompetent, and others who are above them tell me so behind their back. Sometimes bosses really are dumb. The email I posted here shows that, and most people were more horrified by it than I was. He is smart in other respects, and I respect him for that. You claim that I can't take criticism constructively, but one of the things they told me during my review is that I do take criticism constructively, I am a good listener, and I do show good leadership skills, which is why they're talking about trying to get me into management, and they want to help me do so. The problem is they're dicking me around about and I'm not sure I want to work here forever. The only criticism that upset me was his claim that I need to work on my communication skills, coming from a guy who can't write a coherent sentence. Even that criticism I took seriously though, because I realize that there are going to be a lot of people who think like him who I'm going to have to work with throughout my life.
As far as finding another job goes, I have hunted and worked with my career services center and such, but everything is either volunteer workor 8 an hour jobs that I have no interest in. I'm considering going back to school, but I don't want to be a student until I'm 30. I want to get into the real world. You don't know me, and most of your criticisms are either untrue or unfair. Even if you are right about a few things, the flaws you mention are good reasons to go into the military to improve myself, not avoid it. I never said they were going to roll out the red carpet for me. I realize that my peers are going to be other college graduates, many of which may be better students and better soldiers than myself. I don't need someone who doesn't know me, and already hates me, critiquing my character. I'm looking for advice from people who know about serving. I have many friends who serve who say it will be great for me, and it makes sense for what I want to do.
First of all, just because I call one girl a bitch for reasons you don't agree with doesn't mean I am a misogynist.
A lot of the people I work with are incompetent, and others who are above them tell me so behind their back. Sometimes bosses really are dumb. The email I posted here shows that, and most people were more horrified by it than I was. He is smart in other respects, and I respect him for that. You claim that I can't take criticism constructively, but one of the things they told me during my review is that I do take criticism constructively, I am a good listener, and I do show good leadership skills, which is why they're talking about trying to get me into management, and they want to help me do so. The problem is they're dicking me around about and I'm not sure I want to work here forever. The only criticism that upset me was his claim that I need to work on my communication skills, coming from a guy who can't write a coherent sentence. Even that criticism I took seriously though, because I realize that there are going to be a lot of people who think like him who I'm going to have to work with throughout my life.
As far as finding another job goes, I have hunted and worked with my career services center and such, but everything is either volunteer workor 8 an hour jobs that I have no interest in. I'm considering going back to school, but I don't want to be a student until I'm 30. I want to get into the real world. You don't know me, and most of your criticisms are either untrue or unfair. Even if you are right about a few things, the flaws you mention are good reasons to go into the military to improve myself, not avoid it. I never said they were going to roll out the red carpet for me. I realize that my peers are going to be other college graduates, many of which may be better students and better soldiers than myself. I don't need someone who doesn't know me, and already hates me, critiquing my character. I'm looking for advice from people who know about serving. I have many friends who serve who say it will be great for me, and it makes sense for what I want to do.
Anonymous S replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #121,331
@previous (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
Mate, she's got you. Admit defeat and run off with your tail between your legs.
Mate, she's got you. Admit defeat and run off with your tail between your legs.
protip !!pMmAiEwOm replied with this 15 years ago, 40 seconds later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #121,332
Anonymous U joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 17 seconds later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #121,333
Anonymous T replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #121,334
@121,328 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
> First of all, just because I call one girl a bitch for reasons you don't agree with doesn't mean I am a misogynist.
You say shit like that all the time. Whenever something comes up about women, you're always quick to take the opposite side. Maybe you don't even realize you're doing it (unlikely), but you do do it. It just makes people think you're a bigoted idiot. I skip right over your posts 99% of the time now.
> First of all, just because I call one girl a bitch for reasons you don't agree with doesn't mean I am a misogynist.
You say shit like that all the time. Whenever something comes up about women, you're always quick to take the opposite side. Maybe you don't even realize you're doing it (unlikely), but you do do it. It just makes people think you're a bigoted idiot. I skip right over your posts 99% of the time now.
Tekamine !AnRbswGQv. replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #121,339
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #121,395
@121,334 (T)
So now you're gonna tell me that a woman can set a man on fire for a crime for which he's serving a prison sentence, and if I don't side with the woman I'm a bigot? Maybe you're the one who needs to step back and stop assuming that women are always the victime and always innocent. I can respect you for disagreeing with my point of view, but I always justify my points, and it's not fair to say I'm a bigot just because I don't side with you. I recall lots of people agreeing with me in those threads.
Also, I have about 2000 posts here, so for you to ignore everything I say just because of a few posts where you disagree with me shows that you're very closed-minded.
So now you're gonna tell me that a woman can set a man on fire for a crime for which he's serving a prison sentence, and if I don't side with the woman I'm a bigot? Maybe you're the one who needs to step back and stop assuming that women are always the victime and always innocent. I can respect you for disagreeing with my point of view, but I always justify my points, and it's not fair to say I'm a bigot just because I don't side with you. I recall lots of people agreeing with me in those threads.
Also, I have about 2000 posts here, so for you to ignore everything I say just because of a few posts where you disagree with me shows that you're very closed-minded.
!poISOnioxc joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 day later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #122,881
hrm.
Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #122,888
@121,277 (I)
Where do I make such a claim? I R consultant for Satellite systems and fix one hell of a lot of Satellites.
The last Gov Satellite I fixed was a French Spy Satellite. To the best of my knowledge I have never fixed a US Gov Satellite. Usually its a NOC situation and back up an or help for those who are tasked with keeping them working or making them work. Exception is the Globalstar series because back as a Q employee and manager I was the launch manager for the first Eight. NOW training those who are in charge of putting up the full replacement set. Originally 52 Satellites but the verdict is yet in as to if it will really be a full 52 to replace this go round.
Where do I make such a claim? I R consultant for Satellite systems and fix one hell of a lot of Satellites.
The last Gov Satellite I fixed was a French Spy Satellite. To the best of my knowledge I have never fixed a US Gov Satellite. Usually its a NOC situation and back up an or help for those who are tasked with keeping them working or making them work. Exception is the Globalstar series because back as a Q employee and manager I was the launch manager for the first Eight. NOW training those who are in charge of putting up the full replacement set. Originally 52 Satellites but the verdict is yet in as to if it will really be a full 52 to replace this go round.
Ks !KansasxqvM replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #122,889
Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #122,894
@121,280 (cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w)
I do not disagree with your premise. However its a long way from Anthro to the business world. My best guess with some back up in the real world is - Someone good in Anthro who is also great with math, could end up as a programmer for data bases.
Those I know in industry who have made the grade and jumped from a currently useless degree to something in business they are good with - background in basic business courses and or accounting.
I will have to dig through Bros replies to figure out why Anthro in the first place. What was he thinking?
I do not disagree with your premise. However its a long way from Anthro to the business world. My best guess with some back up in the real world is - Someone good in Anthro who is also great with math, could end up as a programmer for data bases.
Those I know in industry who have made the grade and jumped from a currently useless degree to something in business they are good with - background in basic business courses and or accounting.
I will have to dig through Bros replies to figure out why Anthro in the first place. What was he thinking?
Syntax double-posted this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #122,895
@122,889 (Ks !KansasxqvM)
So sorry for a direct reply to a reply. You might consider learning how to use something as simple as your eyes and pass on by that which does not pertain 2u
So sorry for a direct reply to a reply. You might consider learning how to use something as simple as your eyes and pass on by that which does not pertain 2u
.mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 16 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #122,910
lol c*nt is such a bitch LOL
Ks !KansasxqvM replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #122,916
@122,895 (Syntax)
Just ignore attempts at thread derailment. I should be ignoring your post, but I'm just giving you advice. No one likes a serious thread derailed with completely off-topic shit.
Just ignore attempts at thread derailment. I should be ignoring your post, but I'm just giving you advice. No one likes a serious thread derailed with completely off-topic shit.
Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #122,922
@previous (Ks !KansasxqvM)
Bull Shit. Earlier on I asked OP why the Major. And I will continue to ask. How is a direct question to the topic a derail? Have u
@120,972 (Meowth)
@121,209 (Born this Way !dLadyGAgAA)
Point made case closed!
OR In other words your reply is just measly shitposting
Bull Shit. Earlier on I asked OP why the Major. And I will continue to ask. How is a direct question to the topic a derail? Have u
@120,972 (Meowth)
@121,209 (Born this Way !dLadyGAgAA)
Point made case closed!
OR In other words your reply is just measly shitposting
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Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #122,933
@122,894 (Syntax)
It's a social science thing. I took it because I enjoy it, I'm good at it, and because I could see myself getting a job in intel or some other social science field. I do have the solid math background of which you speak. I took math up to Analytical Geometry and Calculus C, I've taken computer science courses, engineering courses such as Digital Circuits, Analog Circuits, Signal Processing, as well as Physics I and II, basic chemistry, etc. I only needed 124 credits to graduate, but I graduated with 205. I was thinking about transferring a lot of those credits to another school, but like I said earlier, I don't want to be a student until I'm 30, I don't want to be a college professor, and I don't want to continue to work part time in menial jobs that don't get me anywhere while racking up student loan debt. At the very least, I could do the Army for the minimum required term, take courses while in the Army to maybe pick up some more degrees, then leave the Army with a much better resume. It beats doing volunteer work or internships that barely pays minimum wage.
It's a social science thing. I took it because I enjoy it, I'm good at it, and because I could see myself getting a job in intel or some other social science field. I do have the solid math background of which you speak. I took math up to Analytical Geometry and Calculus C, I've taken computer science courses, engineering courses such as Digital Circuits, Analog Circuits, Signal Processing, as well as Physics I and II, basic chemistry, etc. I only needed 124 credits to graduate, but I graduated with 205. I was thinking about transferring a lot of those credits to another school, but like I said earlier, I don't want to be a student until I'm 30, I don't want to be a college professor, and I don't want to continue to work part time in menial jobs that don't get me anywhere while racking up student loan debt. At the very least, I could do the Army for the minimum required term, take courses while in the Army to maybe pick up some more degrees, then leave the Army with a much better resume. It beats doing volunteer work or internships that barely pays minimum wage.
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Anonymous U replied with this 15 years ago, 42 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #122,935
Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 37 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #122,937
@122,933 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
Any languages?
If so how easy was that for you?
Any languages?
If so how easy was that for you?
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Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #122,943
@122,935 (U)
Six. I changed majors and for a while was sort of undecided, but my college was paid for, so I'm glad I took my time and learned as much as I did and made the most of it. I just wish I would have stayed focused enough to pick up some more minors or double-majored. That's one reason why I'm considering continuing my education. It wouldn't be hard to convert a lot of those credits into actual degrees. All things I'll be considering over the next month or so.
Six. I changed majors and for a while was sort of undecided, but my college was paid for, so I'm glad I took my time and learned as much as I did and made the most of it. I just wish I would have stayed focused enough to pick up some more minors or double-majored. That's one reason why I'm considering continuing my education. It wouldn't be hard to convert a lot of those credits into actual degrees. All things I'll be considering over the next month or so.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #122,945
@122,937 (Syntax)
I'm alright in Spanish and plan on learning French and Italian, but I took German and hated it. I suck at German. I was always so busy with other classes that I didn't give it the attention one should give learning another language, though. It's one thing I'd like to go back and redo. I think if I really focused on German I could do it. I admit that languages are not my strong point, though.
I'm alright in Spanish and plan on learning French and Italian, but I took German and hated it. I suck at German. I was always so busy with other classes that I didn't give it the attention one should give learning another language, though. It's one thing I'd like to go back and redo. I think if I really focused on German I could do it. I admit that languages are not my strong point, though.
Nega !34Kas0OdzM joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #122,947
So this devolved into tripfiend drama rather quickly, did I catch that correctly?
@previous (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
How can you major in anthropology and not be a language ace?
I mean... it's not strictly required, but the concept of the two being separate is a tad hard to understand.
@previous (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
How can you major in anthropology and not be a language ace?
I mean... it's not strictly required, but the concept of the two being separate is a tad hard to understand.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #122,951
@previous (Nega !34Kas0OdzM)
I agree. I'm really good in the social science aspects, and I took a lot of econ courses too, so I'm sort of a socio-cultural/socio-economic sort of guy. And I'm pretty good in the physical/biological aspects of anthropology as well. I aced Anatomy and Physiology, wrote lots of papers on culture and human evolution, culture and globalization, etc. I'll just need to strengthen my language abilities if I plan on doing "fieldwork". Chances are, though, that other people would be collected the verbal info and translating it for me. I don't assume that though. I do plan on improving my linguistics.
I agree. I'm really good in the social science aspects, and I took a lot of econ courses too, so I'm sort of a socio-cultural/socio-economic sort of guy. And I'm pretty good in the physical/biological aspects of anthropology as well. I aced Anatomy and Physiology, wrote lots of papers on culture and human evolution, culture and globalization, etc. I'll just need to strengthen my language abilities if I plan on doing "fieldwork". Chances are, though, that other people would be collected the verbal info and translating it for me. I don't assume that though. I do plan on improving my linguistics.
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Meowth replied with this 15 years ago, 14 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #122,956
Ks !KansasxqvM replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #122,960
@122,922 (Syntax)
> Where do I make such a claim? I R consultant for Satellite systems and fix one hell of a lot of Satellites.
> The last Gov Satellite I fixed was a French Spy Satellite. To the best of my knowledge I have never fixed a US Gov Satellite. Usually its a NOC situation and back up an or help for those who are tasked with keeping them working or making them work. Exception is the Globalstar series because back as a Q employee and manager I was the launch manager for the first Eight. NOW training those who are in charge of putting up the full replacement set. Originally 52 Satellites but the verdict is yet in as to if it will really be a full 52 to replace this go round.
^ that has nothing to do with Broseph or this thread. Derailments are like a snowball and at this point I'm only making it worse. Done ITT.
> Where do I make such a claim? I R consultant for Satellite systems and fix one hell of a lot of Satellites.
> The last Gov Satellite I fixed was a French Spy Satellite. To the best of my knowledge I have never fixed a US Gov Satellite. Usually its a NOC situation and back up an or help for those who are tasked with keeping them working or making them work. Exception is the Globalstar series because back as a Q employee and manager I was the launch manager for the first Eight. NOW training those who are in charge of putting up the full replacement set. Originally 52 Satellites but the verdict is yet in as to if it will really be a full 52 to replace this go round.
^ that has nothing to do with Broseph or this thread. Derailments are like a snowball and at this point I'm only making it worse. Done ITT.
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Nega !34Kas0OdzM replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #122,972
Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #122,977
@122,951 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
OK its been years and I do mean years since I did my HR stint for one major agency you say you want to end up working for. I of course was bent on finding technical geek types right out of school. Major one year gig at Brown University to pull in potential candidates. So I am wayyy out of touch with current protocol and or what they want.
I did a full 10 year Gig with HR as a large part of it but it was one hell of an outside US Guv run adventure.
I just do not see the Army or any service as the option for you to enter and exit with the skills you need to enter what you want for the long run.
1: Getting into Intel in the services is a matter of a great deal of luck. Timing and broken promises. I have to state that I have never upped into Military service yet was fully trained by our US Marine corp, in Basic and Survival - Basic was a byyyytch for me but Survival I done just super.
So this is what I would do at this point with the information you have provided.
CIA and NSA both have web sites with the how to apply and people do get inside by using the web. I have a neighbor who did about 6 months ago without any help from me lol - but I ended up helping indirectly after he got in.
NRO does not have such an entry point. They recruit strictly on their own.
So with what you have just go an apply. One important very important extremely important point I will make.
In writing or personal contact be 110% Honest to a fault. One slip even a small slip or exaggeration and your toast. Toast got that? I have stories in this nakkid city about how people ended up toast for the most simple of slips ..slip ups - You need not volunteer anything such as German was difficult - its a answer questions as if you were on trial for your life. Bastards on the other end tend to be cold as cold can be.
OK its been years and I do mean years since I did my HR stint for one major agency you say you want to end up working for. I of course was bent on finding technical geek types right out of school. Major one year gig at Brown University to pull in potential candidates. So I am wayyy out of touch with current protocol and or what they want.
I did a full 10 year Gig with HR as a large part of it but it was one hell of an outside US Guv run adventure.
I just do not see the Army or any service as the option for you to enter and exit with the skills you need to enter what you want for the long run.
1: Getting into Intel in the services is a matter of a great deal of luck. Timing and broken promises. I have to state that I have never upped into Military service yet was fully trained by our US Marine corp, in Basic and Survival - Basic was a byyyytch for me but Survival I done just super.
So this is what I would do at this point with the information you have provided.
CIA and NSA both have web sites with the how to apply and people do get inside by using the web. I have a neighbor who did about 6 months ago without any help from me lol - but I ended up helping indirectly after he got in.
NRO does not have such an entry point. They recruit strictly on their own.
So with what you have just go an apply. One important very important extremely important point I will make.
In writing or personal contact be 110% Honest to a fault. One slip even a small slip or exaggeration and your toast. Toast got that? I have stories in this nakkid city about how people ended up toast for the most simple of slips ..slip ups - You need not volunteer anything such as German was difficult - its a answer questions as if you were on trial for your life. Bastards on the other end tend to be cold as cold can be.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 15 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #122,991
@previous (Syntax)
I already applied for CIA. I've got the squeaky-clean record they look for, but I'm just not qualified enough yet. It's very competitive right now, and there are people way more qualified than me. I realize I may not get the intel job I want in the military, but they're gonna help me find what I do best. At the very least, it's a 3-6 year job that will jumpstart my career with all the training and experience I'll get. I appreciate your honest advice, though. If I could go straight into CIA I would, but I need more experience and I can use a military career to get my foot in the door.
> In writing or personal contact be 110% Honest to a fault. One slip even a small slip or exaggeration and your toast. Toast got that? I have stories in this nakkid city about how people ended up toast for the most simple of slips ..slip ups - You need not volunteer anything such as German was difficult - its a answer questions as if you were on trial for your life. Bastards on the other end tend to be cold as cold can be.
Yeah, the agents I spoke with told me about how they do thorough background checks and make you take polygraph tests and everything, and it's best to just spill your guts and put EVERYTHING on the table. One slip up and you're done, just like you said.
I already applied for CIA. I've got the squeaky-clean record they look for, but I'm just not qualified enough yet. It's very competitive right now, and there are people way more qualified than me. I realize I may not get the intel job I want in the military, but they're gonna help me find what I do best. At the very least, it's a 3-6 year job that will jumpstart my career with all the training and experience I'll get. I appreciate your honest advice, though. If I could go straight into CIA I would, but I need more experience and I can use a military career to get my foot in the door.
> In writing or personal contact be 110% Honest to a fault. One slip even a small slip or exaggeration and your toast. Toast got that? I have stories in this nakkid city about how people ended up toast for the most simple of slips ..slip ups - You need not volunteer anything such as German was difficult - its a answer questions as if you were on trial for your life. Bastards on the other end tend to be cold as cold can be.
Yeah, the agents I spoke with told me about how they do thorough background checks and make you take polygraph tests and everything, and it's best to just spill your guts and put EVERYTHING on the table. One slip up and you're done, just like you said.
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Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 10 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #122,997
@previous (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
ah and did they also share how Farsi and Arab take you a long way there?
I took one basic Anthro course long ago. Same for Archeology, which for a bunch of years was a hobby well sort of. American Indians and those that lived in areas I would hike in. Indians of LA Malibu Orange county.
What I do remember is/was that related to Anthropology are data bases galore and NSA for instance is all about data bases. Always in the news about how the data base failed to deliver. NOT from my personal experience but I sure see that a great deal in the news re a huge /fuck up/
ah and did they also share how Farsi and Arab take you a long way there?
I took one basic Anthro course long ago. Same for Archeology, which for a bunch of years was a hobby well sort of. American Indians and those that lived in areas I would hike in. Indians of LA Malibu Orange county.
What I do remember is/was that related to Anthropology are data bases galore and NSA for instance is all about data bases. Always in the news about how the data base failed to deliver. NOT from my personal experience but I sure see that a great deal in the news re a huge /fuck up/
Anonymous Z-1 joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 7 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #123,173
@122,960 (Ks !KansasxqvM)
Despite his ramblings and retarded grammar, I find Syntax's post to be typically on topic and enjoying to read. I find him to be an interesting poster.
Despite his ramblings and retarded grammar, I find Syntax's post to be typically on topic and enjoying to read. I find him to be an interesting poster.