Minichan

nexus had guns

@previous (B)
RIP rooster.

@OP
You'll shoot your eye out.

I'll go ask 4chan...

@previous (A)
Report back with their suggestions?

chiappa nineteen eleven in beige bc. it looks cool.

@previous (q.)
How's the recoil on that?

Bb gun

@829,052 (A)
i dunno, cant be too bad, its a .22

@829,048 (A)
inb4 mosin

@829,053 (beckyderp !LiptondPyg)

> Bb gun

yeah I like BB guns

A Nerf gun. They're under 20 dollars, too. They can be rigged to shoot like a Glock 41, too.

a gun? what kind of gun? a rifle? shotgun? pistol? you hunting? buying for home defense? target practice? just to have a cool gun?

"a gun" isn't much to go off of to offer any kind of real reply. also if you don't already have something in mind, like "i want a .380" or "9mm sounds like it makes sense for me," then i'd suggest going to a gun range and asking to shoot several of the most popular guns in the category you're after. they'll probably point you in the right direction better than we can since you'll be able to hold them and feel the action and let them know what features you're after, like interchangeable grips, light rails, mod sights, safety, etc.

there's a fuck load of excellent and affordable guns, but it's really up to feel. and shoot it first before you buy, if you can. you will literally be more accurate with different guns, some will be just the right weight and fire just the right round for you to be most accurate. there's no point in getting a heavy .45 if you can't hit the target.

if you're looking for suggestions on type of round, 9mm is great to start and .40sw is growing more popular all the time. and if you're buying for home defense, then consider just getting a shotgun. the unmistakable sound of cocking a pump shotgun is unmistakable.

@previous (squeegee)
You forgot to add that .38s make good holes in people and a short barrel makes you look like a 70s detective.

308 rifle..... It'll put a nice round hole going in, but a splattering mess on the exit.

Water pistol.

@829,096 (squeegee)
Thanks for the excellent reply squeegee. I dont know guns at all so wasn't sure how to ask, but I'm looking for something to use for both home protection and fun, which includes a bit of hunting on my new property.

I might get a clay pidgeon shooter at some point too.

Is there something out there that's good for all of the above?

And should I go to a gun range for sure before buying?

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@previous (A)

> Is there something out there that's good for all of the above?
shotgun

> And should I go to a gun range for sure before buying?
yes

@829,301 (A)
yup. shotgun. clay pigeon shooting is really fun too. and the folks at the gun store will hook you up.

@829,301 (A)

You should get an ar45 for hunting and an ak for home defence

@829,301 (A)
i'm not at work so i can elaborate. i don't know much about shotguns, tbh, i've done some bird hunting but always used other people's equipment. not sure if you'd want a 10 or a 12 gauge but the gun store folks should be able to help with that and let you fire both and see what floats your boat. it'll probably help to know what animals are native to your region to know what gun to get for hunting. unless i'm mistaken you can use both for bird, but one may be preferred over the other for duck or something specific. i like bird hunting, it's pretty fun, and you can use the same gun to shoot clay pigeons which is fun too. more fun that target shooting, imo, since targets don't move and explode. and an exploding pigeon is a pretty satisfying shot.

like any gun there will be super expensive and super cheap ones, let the folks at the store direct you to the price point you're after. i'm betting you can still find fairly cheap and good quality makers. they'll know better than me who's got the quality firearm.

the most fun gun i've shot in a long time was a .22lr mp5, but i can't recall the maker. i was told it was like 400 bucks round about, i can find out the manufacturer if you're interested, and i'll tell you why you should be. first of all .22lr is super cheap when you can find it (it is sometimes a hard round to find because of its popularity) making it a really, really good choice for shooting bottles and targets and whatnots. and it's quite a lot of fun, the thing held like 30 or 40 rounds or something nuts and it just fires all fucking day. you keep thinking it's about out and you just keep squeezing out rounds. it's semi-auto, very lightweight, has tiny recoil, and is accurate enough for backyard bottle shooting. there are better rifles, there are competition grade rifles that are super accurate and your best bet for that kinda shit, but they get super expensive fast. and there are a ton of mid range rifles that have a more standard form factor and are excellent shooters and more up your alley for hunting small game like varmints (tell them you want a varmit gun if you have animals like raccoons, opossums or squirrels), but if your goal is fun inexpensive target shooting and just want a cool looking/feeling gun then the mp5 is a neat little plinker. i mean it's an mp5, looks just like the military variety. look like you can fuck some shit up, tbh.

and the fact that it fires like 30-40 rounds, imo, makes it great for home defense. no, it's not going to have much stopping power, but man, they're going to feel 30 bullet holes. you know? and it can fire fast as fuck. but still, for home defense i still think a shotgun is the way to go. i think pistol grip shotguns without a stock are legal in most states too, idk if you can pair that with a foregrip legally though, but that -that would be ideal imo. short, easy to use in confined spaces, massive stopping power from close range, highly audible and unmistakable sound when chambering a round.

if you're into the idea of pistols then like most people i'd probably recommend a glock 9mm. it's a reliable firearm and a reliable round with decent stopping power and great magazine capacity. there are different types, compact ones for concealed carry and longer ones with better accuracy, get the one that feels the best in your hand and fires the tightest group for you. they're also pretty cheap without being the shit quality of manufactures like Taurus which hasn't had the best name for as long as i've known about them. you might also like a .40sw or a .380, i own a .40sw and i love it, and i kinda really want a .380 cause they're so small.

my .40 is a Walther p99 which also comes in .22 and 9mm and i think .45 as well. the .40sw is a great round made for law enforcement, it's a 10mm round that flies almost identical to a 9mm but with almost the kind of energy delivered by a .45acp round with a recoil much more similar to a 9mm, making it a very easy to handle gun that deals devastating damage. people shot with 9mm can often keep fighting and it can take multiple rounds to end a threat, but the .40sw is likely to hit them once and send them into shock. it's a great round, but it's not the cheapest. it is, however, extremely plentiful.

and the walther p99 is a pretty great platform, it comes with 3 interchangeable grips, a light rail (or laser sight) and moddable sights. it's super lightweight, mostly composite and is very comfortable to shoot. mostly because you can select the perfect grip. the only "drawback" is that it doesn't have a mechanical safety, the gun operates as a double action until one round is fired, and then all following shots are single action. you can prime the trigger from double to single action by pulling it into position though, and there's nothing preventing you from pulling the trigger all the way, so, basically the safety is that the first time you pull the trigger you have to pull the trigger a lot, and all following shots are "hair triggers." so, not exactly a real safety mechanism, just a safety feature. because of that i would not want to carry it as a concealed carry type gun. and if i did then there's no fucking way you'd ever want to walk around with a round chambered. okay, it is exactly like walking around with a revolver unless you've got it cocked, but then it's single action. so if the round is loaded and the "hammer" is uncocked then it's exactly as safe as a revolver without a safety. but still. it doesn't actually have a hammer, it has a little internal impulse pin... that shows as a little red dot on the back of the slide. so. it's safe, but it's not a gun for even an intermediate shooter -which would probably be me- it's more a gun for an expert, like a cop, to carry. so i don't do concealed carry, but if i did i wouldn't use that one. maybe during the zombie apocalypse i'll carry that fucker.

and it's also neat because it's a 100% german import, the original walther p99s being sold here were all imports coming in through the one dealer who was bringing in walther at the time, and all of those guns has the serial numbers and everything rolled onto the slide with a press. like engraving. that's how you know it's one of the german ones and not a "german" walther manufactured outside of germany which is what most american sold walthers are now. i may be wrong on what i'm remembering, but i do remember not wanting the p99s that had laser etched serial numbers because i think they were being partially manufactured by, uh... idk, like springfield armory or something (no, it was WaltherUS and they were making parts here) and they didn't have a great rep at the time. i don't really remember, but i do know that i found one at a gunstore in Garland that had a rolled slide p99 right on the fucking shelf. they were hard to find new, and this one was never fired. and it's a good looking gun too, very modern looking. with a tenifer finish that resists picking up fingerprints.

i can't speak for all walther guns, but i can see where their reputation comes from. their .380 is legendary. james bond carried the walther .380, it's iconic, and it's an outstanding shooter.

i've been thinking about getting a .380 (idk if walther though) because you can get a pretty small one for concealed carry. it's not the most powerful round, but they can be super accurate and you can stuff like 19 in a magazine. idk what the round costs compared to a .40 or 9mm though.

and there's, like, a lot of other rounds and shit i've never even heard of, and so much of shooting just comes down to comfort and preferences. and cost is a factor too, a .45acp might sound like a good idea, but if the ammo costs too much to shoot then what's the point?

that's why i do like pellet guns an awful lot. though i don't own any, when i get my hands on one i have fun for hours. you get a good one and that thing will shoot as well as any .22 up to like, idk, 30-40 yards.

whatever you do, hit up the local gun store and let them know you're a beginner and that you want to start shooting and they will hook you the fuck up. they'll have whatever kind of classes you need, and you'll want to take a gun safety class or whatever they offer for beginners. years ago i learned that sometimes a gun can explode in your hands, and i did not know that. it absolutely will not happen to you once you know it can happen and how to make sure it doesn't happen, and how to recognize it's going to happen if you do the thing that will literally make it blow up in your hand. but, i wouldn't have even known that was a thing without the class. so, mostly just be extra careful if you're shooting reloads and make sure you don't pull the trigger again if there's any kind of misfire. and how to not shoot people by using proper etiquette at the range.

that's all stuff the folks at your local gun range will be more than happy to teach you about and work with you on. and some ranges are better than others, some people are cooler than others. no one in a gun store/range is cool, by the way. they don't tolerate fucking around like at all. what they do appreciate are things being done the right way. there's a huge difference between walking in carrying your pistol in your hand, and walking in carrying your pistol in a carrying case. like... a huge fucking difference. so find one where to people seem, idk, chill or nice or at least aren't total dicks and give them your business. they're more likely to give better classes and be more personable. the folks i took a firearms safety class from before i bought my pistol hated me because the walther is the "james bond gun" even though i wasn't buying a ppk. they had me pegged as a cityboy collegekid with a silly brittish car and armani jeans and i was buying a movie prop for affectation.

and i didn't want the glock 9mm whatever they were pushing on me. i came in asking for the "german" p99. see? i think they wanted me to shoot myself with that nonmechanical safety feature. lol. but, since then, the range i go to now they've never done anything but compliment the choice, it's a great gun. if i get my CCL or buy another gun it's going to be with them.

@previous (squeegee)
Would a .22lr have enough power? Because they seem cheap enough.

@previous (A)
yeah, up to about 150 yards. you'd be able to hunt small ground game and it's an inexpensive round to use for target practice. you won't be shooting clay pigeons with a .22 though. and it's a very small looking round that weighs nothing, but it can certainly kill. and they're fairly quiet too, so you can get away with no ear protection when you're outside shooting a .22