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Anonymous A started this discussion 8 years ago#67,176
You buy a new car in 2017. Here and there, you replace a part or two, as is natural in the life of a car. But you want to keep this car forever, convinced that it will become a classic. You continue to replaces parts as they wear out. By the year 2030, you have replaced literally every part in the car. At one point, from 2017 to 2030, does it cease becoming the car that you actually bought?
Also what a shitty car I would buy one not made of paper
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Meta joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 1 minute later, 12 minutes after the original post[^][v]#822,922
@822,920 (A)
Seriously what kind of car needs EVERY SINGLE PART replaced in 13 years? I'm driving a 12 year old car and I've only had to replace one part so far.
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 1 minute later, 14 minutes after the original post[^][v]#822,924
@previous (Meta)
While this is a terrific objection, I think you're missing the point of the thought experiment.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 8 years ago, 9 minutes later, 24 minutes after the original post[^][v]#822,927
@822,922 (Meta)
It is a thought experiment, not a literal situation.
Meta replied with this 8 years ago, 54 seconds later, 25 minutes after the original post[^][v]#822,929
@822,924 (E)
I'm sorry that kind of complete ignorance of how long car parts last breaks the suspension of disbelief.
Anonymous C replied with this 8 years ago, 4 minutes later, 29 minutes after the original post[^][v]#822,933
It's just funny you didn't know something do common sense
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 8 years ago, 21 seconds later, 29 minutes after the original post[^][v]#822,934
@822,929 (Meta)
Look up the Ship of Theseus. This is a Well-Known™ (pronounced as one word) thought experiment. Your Autistic literalism goes against thousands of years of intellectual philosophy.
Meta replied with this 8 years ago, 17 minutes later, 47 minutes after the original post[^][v]#822,936
@previous (A)
Then just make a topic "Ship of Theseus: yay or nay?" and be done with it.
Anonymous E replied with this 8 years ago, 5 hours later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#822,993
@822,929 (Meta) > that kind of complete ignorance of how long car parts last breaks the suspension of disbelief.
I agree. I feel like a lot of people would get distracted and wonder why you don't just buy a better car. I assume OP is stoic sam trying to put classic philosophical problems in modern day parlance and running some of the examples by us. Maybe a desktop computer would be a better analogy? Our society doesn't do a lot of replacing things part by part anymore. Maybe an online profile that you keep updating until everything is changed? I don't know.
Meta replied with this 8 years ago, 15 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#822,998
@previous (E) > I agree. I feel like a lot of people would get distracted and wonder why you don't just buy a better car.
I know right? I see so many 10-20+ year old cars on the road that clearly have most of their original parts. I simply cannot picture needing to replace every single part in 13 years. > I assume OP is stoic sam trying to put classic philosophical problems in modern day parlance and running some of the examples by us. Maybe a desktop computer would be a better analogy? Our society doesn't do a lot of replacing things part by part anymore.
I don't know much about machines but most of them seem to be composed of a few major parts which generally do not get replaced, and a lot of minor parts which do get replaced. I have a 2011 Lenovo IdeaPad. I spilled wine on the keyboard and it broke. So I replaced the keyboard for like $15. A two minute repair. But if the motherboard breaks? Into the trash it goes. No way in hell am I going to try to find a used or NOS 7 year old motherboard and tear it apart to replace it when I can buy a comparable new laptop for $250. > Maybe an online profile that you keep updating until everything is changed? I don't know.
One of those bands where there's no original members left!
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Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 1 hour later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#823,014
I own my grandfather's axe. The head had been replaced twice, and the handle three times...
Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 6 hours later, 15 hours after the original post[^][v]#823,053
@OP
Why replace any part of the car? Can't you afford to just scrap it and buy an new one?