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Topic: Stoic Thought of the Day (27th September)

Stoic Sam !zQ8ry.WSMk started this discussion 8 years ago #66,521

Present yourself as being the same at all times. If your children die, nobody should be able to accuse you of being in grief.

Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 2 minutes later[^] [v] #817,466

I feel as though Stoic Sam has become a parody of himself.

Stoic Sam !zQ8ry.WSMk (OP) replied with this 8 years ago, 10 minutes later, 13 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #817,467

@previous (B)

Why do you think that?

Anonymous B replied with this 8 years ago, 3 minutes later, 17 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #817,468

@previous (Stoic Sam !zQ8ry.WSMk)
The reason I think that... is because publicly being not the least bit sad over your child's death is too emotionless. Your previous thoughts have tended to be fairly insightful advice on self-control and acceptance, but they did not promote acting like an automaton.

Stoic Sam !zQ8ry.WSMk (OP) replied with this 8 years ago, 12 minutes later, 29 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #817,469

@previous (B)

It's important to understand that there is no difference between dying sooner or later, because everyone's death will come eventually, even your own.


1 It is towards death, then, that our confidence should be directed, and towards the fear of death our caution; whereas in fact we do the opposite, taking flight in the face of death, while showing carelessness, neglect, and indifference in forming a judgement about it. Socrates rightly referred to such fears as bogeys.

2 For just as masks seem horrible and frightening to children because of their lack of experience, we allow ourselves to be affected like that too by events, for just the same reason as children are frightened by bogeys, and in the same fashion. For what is a child? Ignorance. What is a child? Lack of knowledge. For in those areas in which he does have some knowledge, he is in no way inferior to us. What is death? A bogey. Turn it round and you'll find out; look, it doesn't bite! Sooner or later, your poor body must be separated from its scrap of vital spirit, just as it was formerly. Why be upset, then, if it should come about now? If it is not separated now, it assuredly will be. For what reason? So that the cycle of the universe may be accomplished; for it has need of what is presently in existence, and what will come to be, and what has completed its course.

Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 57 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #817,476

@OP
> Stoic Sam !zQ8ry.WSMk started this discussion

Stopped reading there.

Meta joined in and replied with this 8 years ago, 5 hours later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #817,496

@817,468 (B)
Stoic Sam's empathy is outside of your control. All you can do is stoically accept it.
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