Bookshelf !hbZVTk6JYc joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later[^][v]#116,392
Things that would convince me.
1. A talking, burning bush.
2. I giant booming voice from the sky dictating morality.
3. Sex with any Victoria's secret model.
Any of those things would convince me God exists.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 47 seconds later, 6 minutes after the original post[^][v]#116,393
If I were to encounter a sound argument for the existence of God I would change my mind. Other than that, not much would convince me.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 21 seconds later, 7 minutes after the original post[^][v]#116,394
@116,392 (Bookshelf !hbZVTk6JYc)
I have a radio and a match, that would convince you?
Bookshelf !hbZVTk6JYc replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 9 minutes after the original post[^][v]#116,398
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No dude, an uncorruptable burning bush that talks like the one did to... Um. Moses? Abraham? One of those faggots.
But the bush would have to burn AND talk, not just burn near a radio.
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 40 minutes later, 49 minutes after the original post[^][v]#116,408
Going to heaven.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 10 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#116,411
@previous (D)
And how would you know it's not:
* A hallucination
* Simulated reality (matrix-esque)
* some new technological feat?
Anonymous D replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#116,415
@previous (A)
When it's preceded by my death and I never wake up, lolol.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#116,416
@previous (D)
People hallucinate all the time, and quite frequently say the felt like they had died.
Anonymous D replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#116,424
@previous (A)
I've tripped before, it ends eventually.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#116,435
@previous (D)
Again though, there are many things that could cause it to seem as if you've gone to heaven.
A new drug causing the hallucination, which lasts a very long time .If you deplete the metabolites that remove salvia from your system by smoking it several times, a trip can last 3 days. I believe ibogaine lasts longer on your first time. A new artificial drug could last even longer.
Or a disease could cause the hallucination.
Or you could be in a simulated reality. Maybe in a more advanced society you got hooked into an artificial reality machine, and it started you fresh in this life with no memories.
Perhaps some other thing. There are many, many plausible explanations. Why would you assume it meant god?
Anonymous D replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#116,440
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I would suppose that an afterlife was more likely than some miracle drug that gives me delusions of a specifically Christian fairy tale.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#116,447
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Drugs already exist that can cause long term hallucinations, and the very fact that you say heaven is a likely possibility for life after death may cause your mind to make it for you.
Or it could all be part of some game you are playing, in a very advanced virtual reality. Or a vivid dream.
Bookshelf !hbZVTk6JYc replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#116,453
Anonymous D replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#116,458
@116,447 (A)
I'm not an athiest because I'm one for magical thinking.
The Truth !!vSp31CfSr joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#116,462
If God himself presented in front of me, there would be no point in denying that He exists.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 30 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#116,464
@116,453 (Bookshelf !hbZVTk6JYc)
I suppose, but in lucid dreams you realize it's a dream. You wouldn't here.
@116,458 (D) > Atheists: Could anything ever change your mind? > Atheists:
> I'm not an athiest
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 56 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#116,465
@116,462 (The Truth !!vSp31CfSr)
How would you know it was actually god, and not advanced technology, a hallucination, simulated reality, or one of many other possibilities?
advi !!3gpAcg/hF joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#116,467
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How do you know everything and anything isn't that? You might wake up one day from cryogenic preservation in the year 3858 aboard a starship.
Bookshelf !hbZVTk6JYc replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#116,470
@previous (advi !!3gpAcg/hF)
Do you really believe that?
advi !!3gpAcg/hF replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#116,471
@previous (Bookshelf !hbZVTk6JYc)
I don't see why not.
Bookshelf !hbZVTk6JYc replied with this 15 years ago, 12 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#116,487
@previous (advi !!3gpAcg/hF)
Cause that's even crazier than God.
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#116,496
When a small bearded man falls out of the sky, draws a flaming sword and has a battle in Israel.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 24 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#116,498
Ks !KansasxqvM joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 10 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#116,536
Irrefutable evidence.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 3 hours later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#116,680
@116,487 (Bookshelf !hbZVTk6JYc)
There are many thing possible. As computers become faster, and AI developed, perhaps someone released a program to generate your own world with people in it. It's not that far out, and could easily happen in a few hundred years, and definitely in a few thousand.
And Virtual reality could become even better.
A million things could be possible in the future, easily.
However a god that created the universe requires more than just advanced technology. the idea that a complex entity just existed? It's one thing that matter and space exists, but of course no complex pattern just exists. Humans arose out of a simple environment. Complexity of any sort, logically, arises out of initial simple/basic environments.
And not only did a complex, sapient (human-like) being arbitrarily exist, but he did not arise out of basic structures? And there is no cause for his "pattern"?
That is much more of a crazy theory than:
Singulatriy, explosion, bsaic building blocks. From these, slowly, more complex patterns fall into place. Subatomic particles join, then atoms, and from there, hospitible structures, and then simple organisms.
It starts simple, and complexity arises. No arbitrary setup.
Bookshelf !hbZVTk6JYc replied with this 15 years ago, 53 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#116,726
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Don't point that TL;DR at me, I don't even know which argument your're trying to defend. Imo the human concept of God is simplistic and arises out of misunderstanding. A man trying to understand "god" is like an ant trying to understand a man. Our perception is limited, and our ideas about the existence of God and the universe are biased which makes them fundamentally flawed.
To actually answer your question, no. There is no evidence that can prove or disprove the existence of God, and i do not believe it is necessary to know the answer to that question one way or the other. People can believe their ghost stories if they want to.
+1 (919) Meowth 0 joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#116,730
1.@OP asks question. 2. Users respond with answers. 3.@OP gives irrelevant hypothetical questions. 4. >mfw yes or no question with possible explanation.