Topic: Becky
Anonymous A started this discussion 9 years ago #65,876
How do you feel about burglars getting injured while burgling and suing the homeowner?
beckyderp !yDoooooooo joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 10 minutes later[^] [v] #812,491
It's incredibly rare and when it does happen, publicized to death to advance the "trial lawyers are evil" and "America is litigious" storylines. If you're talking about cases where the property is booby-trapped specifically to hurt another person, of course a lawsuit is appropriate: that's intentionally and maliciously injuring another person in order to protect property, which is disproportionate and wrong.
It's been a long time since litigiousness was a serious problem in the U.S. Tort reforms and bad publicity have swung the pendulum decidedly in the other direction.
It's been a long time since litigiousness was a serious problem in the U.S. Tort reforms and bad publicity have swung the pendulum decidedly in the other direction.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 9 years ago, 2 minutes later, 12 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #812,492
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 16 seconds later, 12 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #812,493
Why does slip and fall not apply?
beckyderp !yDoooooooo replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 14 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #812,494
I will add that medical bills can be staggering and life-altering, and there are insufficient protections for people to be assured their jobs will remain open for them if they are injured. More, there is no guarantee of housing if a person loses their job or can't pay both rent and medical bills as a result of an injury someone else caused. If people sue "too much," often it's a reaction to the total lack of a safety net in the U.S. -- it can be a necessity.
If there's a successful lawsuit, it's rarely a windfall to the injured person: the insurance company will be paid back what they spent, any outstanding medical bills will be paid off, the costs of litigation will be paid off, then attorney fees...
Anyway you're a shithead
If there's a successful lawsuit, it's rarely a windfall to the injured person: the insurance company will be paid back what they spent, any outstanding medical bills will be paid off, the costs of litigation will be paid off, then attorney fees...
Anyway you're a shithead
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 15 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #812,496
beckyderp !yDoooooooo replied with this 9 years ago, 3 seconds later, 15 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #812,497
@812,492 (A)
I don't think personal injury attorneys are lining up to represent burglars
@812,493 (C)
what
I don't think personal injury attorneys are lining up to represent burglars
@812,493 (C)
what
beckyderp !yDoooooooo double-posted this 9 years ago, 18 seconds later, 15 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #812,498
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 17 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #812,500
@812,491 (beckyderp !yDoooooooo)
Could i booby trap against "?" but get away with it if i also annhilatate ??
Could i booby trap against "?" but get away with it if i also annhilatate ??
chili dog !!81dzJNNYL joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 32 seconds later, 17 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #812,502
@812,494 (beckyderp !yDoooooooo)
yeah it seems like people resort to suing because the US lacks a lot of the protections that other countries offer in terms of health insurance and labour laws. When a hospital visit can bankrupt you and you lose your job for being hospitalized, what else do you do?
yeah it seems like people resort to suing because the US lacks a lot of the protections that other countries offer in terms of health insurance and labour laws. When a hospital visit can bankrupt you and you lose your job for being hospitalized, what else do you do?
beckyderp !yDoooooooo replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 18 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #812,505
@previous (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
Another fun fact is that when you have auto insurance, the insurance company gets the right to sue on your behalf, whether you want it to or not. Gesloopt.
Another fun fact is that when you have auto insurance, the insurance company gets the right to sue on your behalf, whether you want it to or not. Gesloopt.
chili dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 9 years ago, 5 minutes later, 24 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #812,506
@previous (beckyderp !yDoooooooo)
I guess I can see that in terms of them wanting to recoup anything they paid. Insurance companies can be so scummy.
I guess I can see that in terms of them wanting to recoup anything they paid. Insurance companies can be so scummy.
Anonymous C replied with this 9 years ago, 12 minutes later, 37 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #812,513
@812,497 (beckyderp !yDoooooooo)
Burglar enters your home and because of poor housekeeping burglar trips and falls.
As I remember it if you set a trap to catch such burglar it can be your fault if such burglar is hurt. If you are poor housekeeper and burglar is hurt they should be able to be fixed up at your expense.
Burglar enters your home and because of poor housekeeping burglar trips and falls.
As I remember it if you set a trap to catch such burglar it can be your fault if such burglar is hurt. If you are poor housekeeper and burglar is hurt they should be able to be fixed up at your expense.
beckyderp !yDoooooooo replied with this 9 years ago, 6 minutes later, 44 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #812,518
@previous (C)
Slip and falls are extraordinarily tough. It's worse if you are a trespasser as opposed to someone invited to be there. Generally, a homeowner's only duty to a trespasser he didn't expect would be not to try to harm him, whereas if he knew there were trespassers, not to have outrageously dangerous conditions or to put up warnings if they existed. Most courts in practice would not even require that. So a messy homeowner is not going to have a problem with people breaking in and getting hurt. I wouldn't expect a homeowner to owe anything to a criminal who just happens to fall because it's messy or slippery.
Slip and falls are extraordinarily tough. It's worse if you are a trespasser as opposed to someone invited to be there. Generally, a homeowner's only duty to a trespasser he didn't expect would be not to try to harm him, whereas if he knew there were trespassers, not to have outrageously dangerous conditions or to put up warnings if they existed. Most courts in practice would not even require that. So a messy homeowner is not going to have a problem with people breaking in and getting hurt. I wouldn't expect a homeowner to owe anything to a criminal who just happens to fall because it's messy or slippery.
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Meta joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 10 minutes later, 54 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #812,523
@812,491 (beckyderp !yDoooooooo)
> If you're talking about cases where the property is booby-trapped specifically to hurt another person, of course a lawsuit is appropriate: that's intentionally and maliciously injuring another person in order to protect property, which is disproportionate and wrong.
Maybe they should have thought of that before violating the NAP.
> If you're talking about cases where the property is booby-trapped specifically to hurt another person, of course a lawsuit is appropriate: that's intentionally and maliciously injuring another person in order to protect property, which is disproportionate and wrong.
Maybe they should have thought of that before violating the NAP.
Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 52 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #812,547
@812,502 (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
Yes it would be terrible if a burglar were to lose his job as a burglar, wouldn't it?
Yes it would be terrible if a burglar were to lose his job as a burglar, wouldn't it?
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 54 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #812,556
@812,513 (C)> Burglar enters your home and because of poor housekeeping burglar trips and falls.
> As I remember it if you set a trap to catch such burglar it can be your fault if such burglar is hurt. If you are poor housekeeper and burglar is hurt they should be able to be fixed up at your expense.
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 18 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #812,564
@812,491 (beckyderp !yDoooooooo)
Becky...a lot of states allow someone to cause the death of someone who breaks into their home..
I feel like that is reasonable...what is your opinion..
Becky...a lot of states allow someone to cause the death of someone who breaks into their home..
I feel like that is reasonable...what is your opinion..
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Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #812,565
What if the burglar is injured during a fight with the homeowner? Burglary gone wrong, but would it be seen as robbery or home invasion when the homeowner gets involved and fucks the burglar up?
squeegee joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 1 hour later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #812,591
so that Home Alone kid... he really fucked up, eh?