Topic: LOL Science finally proves that people like Meta are angry racists!!!
The Witch Doctor !6W1Zpe4MCM started this discussion 9 years ago #65,800
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 4 minutes later[^] [v] #811,827
addictinginfo.com wow you really got him op
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 8 minutes later, 13 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #811,834
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 5 minutes later, 18 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #811,836
I am now completely convinced that all trump supporters are Nazi racists and all Hillary supporters are pure and virtuous. Thanks
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 7 minutes later, 26 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #811,840
The Witch Doctor !6W1Zpe4MCM (OP) replied with this 9 years ago, 4 minutes later, 30 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #811,843
If you read the f*cking article, it gives a link to the actual *UNIVERSITY STUDY*. Thanks.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 5 minutes later, 36 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #811,847
Racism is most likely a learned psychological behavior.
Walter used to be one of the most racist posters here and now he doesn't seem to spread that attitude around anymore.
Walter used to be one of the most racist posters here and now he doesn't seem to spread that attitude around anymore.
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 44 seconds later, 37 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #811,848
@811,843 (The Witch Doctor !6W1Zpe4MCM)
> If you read the f*cking article, it gives a link to the actual *UNIVERSITY STUDY*. Thanks.
@811,840 (E)
> > > addictinginfo.com wow you really got him op
> If you read the f*cking article, it gives a link to the actual *UNIVERSITY STUDY*. Thanks.
@811,840 (E)
> > > addictinginfo.com wow you really got him op
Anonymous E replied with this 9 years ago, 31 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #811,869
@811,843 (The Witch Doctor !6W1Zpe4MCM)
So asking 1000 people their opinion makes it true?
What about the other billion people in America?
So asking 1000 people their opinion makes it true?
What about the other billion people in America?
Anonymous F replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #811,871
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 9 years ago, 14 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #811,880
Anonymous B replied with this 9 years ago, 20 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #811,891
@811,847 (F)
> Walter used to be one of the most racist posters here and now he doesn't seem to spread that attitude around anymore.
Huh. Impressive.
> Walter used to be one of the most racist posters here and now he doesn't seem to spread that attitude around anymore.
Huh. Impressive.
Anonymous B double-posted this 9 years ago, 39 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #811,892
@811,843 (The Witch Doctor !6W1Zpe4MCM)
Your link was so full of ads and cancer that I couldn't find it's link to the source material.
Your link was so full of ads and cancer that I couldn't find it's link to the source material.
Sheila LaBoof joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #811,894
small children will dislike people that look different from what they know
you see, we have to beat out such natural tendencies that kids have if we want well-behaving childrens
you see, we have to beat out such natural tendencies that kids have if we want well-behaving childrens
Meta joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 11 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #811,904
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Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #811,949
> So now we know that no matter how conservatives try to twist their justifications for not supporting certain causes that directly affect black people, the underlying issue is really that they’re racist.
well yeah
well yeah
Meta replied with this 9 years ago, 44 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #811,968
@previous (L)
Doesn't every cause that affects people "directly affect black people"? I mean I could see that argument for causes that single out black people specifically (ie segregation, voting "literacy tests", etc) but anything that affects people will affect black people too because they're, um, people.
Doesn't every cause that affects people "directly affect black people"? I mean I could see that argument for causes that single out black people specifically (ie segregation, voting "literacy tests", etc) but anything that affects people will affect black people too because they're, um, people.
Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 12 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #811,969
@previous (Meta)
the context is black lives matter
it's a pretty simple assertion. do black lives matter to you meta
the context is black lives matter
it's a pretty simple assertion. do black lives matter to you meta
Meta replied with this 9 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #811,970
Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 1 hour later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #811,976
This is seems to be in line with lots of similar studies, wherein showing prejudiced whites black faces (even very briefly) produced negative emotions and associations. Interestingly, the effect vanishes (or at least weakens) when pictures of famous white actors and black actors are used.
While I agree with the point about the site being a bit trashy, the experiment itself seems sound enough. Naturally, you can't generalise everyone with it, but I think it highlights a probable correlation.
While I agree with the point about the site being a bit trashy, the experiment itself seems sound enough. Naturally, you can't generalise everyone with it, but I think it highlights a probable correlation.
Meta replied with this 9 years ago, 22 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #811,983
@previous (Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx)
I think the problem is trying to apply that to all Trump supporters. Racists don't like black people, therefore Trump voters are racist. There are, I think, quite a lot of reasons not involving race where someone could oppose Hillary Clinton and/or support Donald Trump.
For example, this article on Slate Star Codex gave me serious pause: http://slatestarcodex.com/2016/10/01/he-kept-us-out-of-war/ because a large part of why I support Trump is isolationism and foreign non-intervention. If anti-Trump people had actually tried to, like, you know, find out what his supporters liked about him instead of screaming KKK NAZI HITLER DAVID DUKE it might have made an impact. But they didn't. Painting Trump (and his supporters by association) as racist Alt-Nazis actually galvanizes them and hardens support because they feel it's wrong and Trump is the victim of fake news attacks.
I think the problem is trying to apply that to all Trump supporters. Racists don't like black people, therefore Trump voters are racist. There are, I think, quite a lot of reasons not involving race where someone could oppose Hillary Clinton and/or support Donald Trump.
For example, this article on Slate Star Codex gave me serious pause: http://slatestarcodex.com/2016/10/01/he-kept-us-out-of-war/ because a large part of why I support Trump is isolationism and foreign non-intervention. If anti-Trump people had actually tried to, like, you know, find out what his supporters liked about him instead of screaming KKK NAZI HITLER DAVID DUKE it might have made an impact. But they didn't. Painting Trump (and his supporters by association) as racist Alt-Nazis actually galvanizes them and hardens support because they feel it's wrong and Trump is the victim of fake news attacks.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 9 years ago, 43 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #811,984
@previous (Meta)
But that is not what the study concluded. It concluded that Trump voters, in general, tend to be racist and angry toward black people.
But that is not what the study concluded. It concluded that Trump voters, in general, tend to be racist and angry toward black people.
Meta replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #811,985
@previous (A)
Ask a thousand racists if they like black people
Find out that that they don't
Therefore all Trump voters (ie 46% of Americans) are racists
grate science
Ask a thousand racists if they like black people
Find out that that they don't
Therefore all Trump voters (ie 46% of Americans) are racists
grate science
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #811,986
Meta replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #811,987
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Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 9 years ago, 1 hour later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #812,012
I've had a chance to read through the actual paper, and it seems that they've made a strong case for increased support for Trump being correlated with having more polarised views on race. They ruled out other factors like ideology and partisanship, and concluded that Trump support was in itself a basis for a stronger response to race. They actually did the same test with level of support for Clinton, and found no significance there either.
At the end of their results section, they do note that while a person's attitudes towards race are independant of Trump, their level of Trump support seemed to quite accurately predict their attitudes to race.
To me, this is a fairly believable result. Trump's campaign was quite strongly rooted in xenophobia and nationalism. So it makes sense that people with more negative feelings on race would develop a more positive opinion of him.
@811,983 (Meta)
IMO, this paper highlights that it's important to distinguish between his hardcore supporters and his more tepid ones. It's those most loyal supporters that are most likely (though not guranteed) to have a racist mindset.
As is often the case, a blanket generalisation falls short.
At the end of their results section, they do note that while a person's attitudes towards race are independant of Trump, their level of Trump support seemed to quite accurately predict their attitudes to race.
To me, this is a fairly believable result. Trump's campaign was quite strongly rooted in xenophobia and nationalism. So it makes sense that people with more negative feelings on race would develop a more positive opinion of him.
@811,983 (Meta)
IMO, this paper highlights that it's important to distinguish between his hardcore supporters and his more tepid ones. It's those most loyal supporters that are most likely (though not guranteed) to have a racist mindset.
As is often the case, a blanket generalisation falls short.
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Sheila LaBoof replied with this 9 years ago, 6 hours later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #812,082
46.9%
46.9%
46.9%
Meta replied with this 9 years ago, 2 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #812,083
Also why are racists always described as angry? Are there no sad or happy racists?
Meta double-posted this 9 years ago, 1 hour later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #812,113
@812,012 (Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx)
I don't think there are many tepid Trump supporters. He's the Marmite of American politics.
I don't think there are many tepid Trump supporters. He's the Marmite of American politics.
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 9 years ago, 1 hour later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #812,137
@812,083 (Meta)
> Also why are racists always described as angry? Are there no sad or happy racists?
they are easy to ignore because they aren't out in the street having a bitch parade
angry extroverts are more likely encountered than contented or depressed folks
> Also why are racists always described as angry? Are there no sad or happy racists?
they are easy to ignore because they aren't out in the street having a bitch parade
angry extroverts are more likely encountered than contented or depressed folks
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