Topic: Why would anyone choose to start doing meth?
The Witch Doctor !6W1Zpe4MCM started this discussion 9 years ago #65,704
Are meth users just morally flawed from the beginning?
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 54 seconds later[^] [v] #811,113
> a grown adult who asks minors for nudes is making moral judgements of others
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 5 minutes later, 6 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #811,114
Why would anyone chose to go to Beijing and pick up tuberculous.
The Witch Doctor !6W1Zpe4MCM (OP) replied with this 9 years ago, 7 minutes later, 13 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #811,116
@previous (C)
I am not sure why anyone would purposely choose tuberculosis. Since I have never had TB, and certainly would not choose it, I cannot answer that question, Lynne.
I am not sure why anyone would purposely choose tuberculosis. Since I have never had TB, and certainly would not choose it, I cannot answer that question, Lynne.
Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 3 minutes later, 16 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #811,117
@previous (The Witch Doctor !6W1Zpe4MCM)
Then why, praytell, did you tell everyone that you had a hole in your lung caused by TB?
Then why, praytell, did you tell everyone that you had a hole in your lung caused by TB?
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 59 seconds later, 17 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #811,118
Ask Svet. He's the biggest druggie in the fora.
The Lover !agwluZAh/g (OP) replied with this 9 years ago, 5 minutes later, 23 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #811,121
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 25 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #811,123
Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo replied with this 9 years ago, 6 minutes later, 31 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #811,124
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 10 minutes later, 42 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #811,131
what does meth addiction have to do with morals
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 9 years ago, 11 minutes later, 53 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #811,139
Just so I understand, somehow Minichan posters know more about a Chinese doctor's diagnosis, than the patient himself?
WSD !m2cp3rR5zw joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 11 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #811,141
Because Ks sold it to them.
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Anonymous B replied with this 9 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #811,144
Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo replied with this 9 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #811,147
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 9 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #811,154
@previous (Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo)
One seems awfully obsessed with another man's lung diagnosis from years ago.
One seems awfully obsessed with another man's lung diagnosis from years ago.
Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo replied with this 9 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #811,159
@previous (A)
http://minichan.org/topic/59656#reply_758589
The Witch Doctor !6W1Zpe4MCM double-posted this 7 months ago, 16 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v]
758,551 (Meta)
I lost weight from Tuberculosis™, thank you very much
Doesn't seem like legionaires disease me.
http://minichan.org/topic/59656#reply_758589
The Witch Doctor !6W1Zpe4MCM double-posted this 7 months ago, 16 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v]
758,551 (Meta)
I lost weight from Tuberculosis™, thank you very much
Doesn't seem like legionaires disease me.
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #811,162
Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo replied with this 9 years ago, 44 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #811,163
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she liked it a lotAnonymous B replied with this 9 years ago, 57 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #811,250
chili dog !!81dzJNNYL joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 1 hour later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #811,266
Why is it puzzling that people choose, at least once, to take a drug that makes you feel good when you're high? Especially when other drugs are cut with it so you realize you've already taken it without strictly knowing?
Sheila LaBoof joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 1 hour later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #811,270
@811,131 (G)
> what does meth addiction have to do with morals
unless you have prepared ahead of time to not involve other criminals in the production, and haven't spent money that goes to criminals, and have the money to spend on the fees involved in maintaining your life, it would be difficult to develop and maintain a meth addiction without being a drain on society one way or another, and what dimbulb wouldn't know that before even getting on that ride in the first place
you'd have to be pretty uninformed to innocently bumble your way into it
> what does meth addiction have to do with morals
unless you have prepared ahead of time to not involve other criminals in the production, and haven't spent money that goes to criminals, and have the money to spend on the fees involved in maintaining your life, it would be difficult to develop and maintain a meth addiction without being a drain on society one way or another, and what dimbulb wouldn't know that before even getting on that ride in the first place
you'd have to be pretty uninformed to innocently bumble your way into it
Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 27 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #811,273
@811,266 (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
what bamboozles me is why people get on a moral high horse about drugs like meth and heroin or even cannabis but will happily tolerate someone drinking so much alcohol they go bright yellow
what bamboozles me is why people get on a moral high horse about drugs like meth and heroin or even cannabis but will happily tolerate someone drinking so much alcohol they go bright yellow
brie !iFDoautiSM joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 51 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #811,275
@811,270 (Sheila LaBoof)
It's also pretty hard to order a big mac without being a drain on society but I don't think that makes it morally wrong.
It's also pretty hard to order a big mac without being a drain on society but I don't think that makes it morally wrong.
chili dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 9 years ago, 4 hours later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #811,293
Green !BEERiVqJJw joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 58 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #811,302
@OP
Why do you drink wine?
Why do you drink wine?
Meta joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 29 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #811,311
@811,266 (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
Because it's common knowledge that it can really mess you up in the long term.
Because it's common knowledge that it can really mess you up in the long term.
chili dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 9 years ago, 17 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #811,313
Anonymous J replied with this 9 years ago, 36 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #811,318
@811,293 (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
yeah..
like how privileged college kids talk down at people who don't have much money..
yeah..
like how privileged college kids talk down at people who don't have much money..
chili dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 9 years ago, 5 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #811,321
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 9 years ago, 2 hours later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #811,366
@811,275 (brie !iFDoautiSM)
> It's also pretty hard to order a big mac without being a drain on society but I don't think that makes it morally wrong.
well you should
our actions have consequences for others, and that's the whole basis for ideas of morality (independent of notions of displeasure of the god)
the way things have played out now, involving yourself in something like meth is likely to mean involving yourself in some really awful shit out there, high level societal cancer that is far more than the immediate local surrounding that you are able to see
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big macs?
> It's also pretty hard to order a big mac without being a drain on society but I don't think that makes it morally wrong.
well you should
our actions have consequences for others, and that's the whole basis for ideas of morality (independent of notions of displeasure of the god)
the way things have played out now, involving yourself in something like meth is likely to mean involving yourself in some really awful shit out there, high level societal cancer that is far more than the immediate local surrounding that you are able to see
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big macs?
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brie !iFDoautiSM replied with this 9 years ago, 47 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #811,374
@previous (Sheila LaBoof)
Yeah, good luck existing without involving yourself in some really awful shit. When you hand over your money for any reason, whether you are buying meth or a big mac or a house or a car, you are involving yourself in a lot of shit.
But really, Who gives a fuck what they do with your dollar? It isn't yours anymore and you aren't morally responsible for how the new owner uses it.
Yeah, good luck existing without involving yourself in some really awful shit. When you hand over your money for any reason, whether you are buying meth or a big mac or a house or a car, you are involving yourself in a lot of shit.
But really, Who gives a fuck what they do with your dollar? It isn't yours anymore and you aren't morally responsible for how the new owner uses it.
Anonymous Q joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 12 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #811,381
@811,163 (Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo)
> Trufax. He usually does become strangely quiet.
I'm gonna bump this thread everytime I run across Matt being fat or dumb or useless. Hot topics here I come.
> Trufax. He usually does become strangely quiet.
I'm gonna bump this thread everytime I run across Matt being fat or dumb or useless. Hot topics here I come.
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 9 years ago, 19 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #811,383
@811,374 (brie !iFDoautiSM)
> Yeah, good luck existing without involving yourself in some really awful shit. When you hand over your money for any reason, whether you are buying meth or a big mac or a house or a car, you are involving yourself in a lot of shit.
>
> But really, Who gives a fuck what they do with your dollar? It isn't yours anymore and you aren't morally responsible for how the new owner uses it.
this is a gigantic cop-out, throwing your hands up, saying "fuck-it-all-anyway"
we can do one hell of a lot better as human beings
> Yeah, good luck existing without involving yourself in some really awful shit. When you hand over your money for any reason, whether you are buying meth or a big mac or a house or a car, you are involving yourself in a lot of shit.
>
> But really, Who gives a fuck what they do with your dollar? It isn't yours anymore and you aren't morally responsible for how the new owner uses it.
this is a gigantic cop-out, throwing your hands up, saying "fuck-it-all-anyway"
we can do one hell of a lot better as human beings
brie !iFDoautiSM replied with this 9 years ago, 5 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #811,384
@previous (Sheila LaBoof)
If you go in the opposite direction then killing yourself would be a better option than doing anything because you might accidentally do something immoral or support somebody directly or indirectly who goes on to be immoral.
If you go in the opposite direction then killing yourself would be a better option than doing anything because you might accidentally do something immoral or support somebody directly or indirectly who goes on to be immoral.
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Anonymous B replied with this 9 years ago, 34 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #811,394
@OP you haven't yet established evidence of your own moral authority
Meta replied with this 9 years ago, 7 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #811,544
@811,313 (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
> So does alcohol but alcohol abuse does not have the same stigma as meth use
True, but I think the main difference is that alcoholics can be more or less functional for decades. Alcohol can destroy people quick, but on average it seems to take a lot longer than meth. I have no personal experience in the matter, but I doubt you see a lot of people who have been using meth for 10+ years and still holding down jobs and functioning more or less normally.
But I concede there might be a lot of them and I just haven't noticed and only heard about the most degenerate meth heads.
> So does alcohol but alcohol abuse does not have the same stigma as meth use
True, but I think the main difference is that alcoholics can be more or less functional for decades. Alcohol can destroy people quick, but on average it seems to take a lot longer than meth. I have no personal experience in the matter, but I doubt you see a lot of people who have been using meth for 10+ years and still holding down jobs and functioning more or less normally.
But I concede there might be a lot of them and I just haven't noticed and only heard about the most degenerate meth heads.
Anonymous Q replied with this 9 years ago, 29 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #811,549
@811,374 (brie !iFDoautiSM)
I just took account of everything I bought lately and my exploitation index is pretty low.
You have just have to not buy cheap clothes and not eat at terrible restaurants.
I just took account of everything I bought lately and my exploitation index is pretty low.
You have just have to not buy cheap clothes and not eat at terrible restaurants.
brie !iFDoautiSM replied with this 9 years ago, 3 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #811,577
Green !BEERiVqJJw replied with this 9 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #811,583
Anonymous R joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #811,586
@811,159 (Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo)
> http://minichan.org/topic/59656#reply_758589
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> The Witch Doctor !6W1Zpe4MCM double-posted this 7 months ago, 16 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v]
> 758,551 (Meta)
> I lost weight from Tuberculosis™, thank you very much
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> Doesn't seem like legionaires disease me.
Come on Matt. Where's your response
> http://minichan.org/topic/59656#reply_758589
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> The Witch Doctor !6W1Zpe4MCM double-posted this 7 months ago, 16 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v]
> 758,551 (Meta)
> I lost weight from Tuberculosis™, thank you very much
>
>
> Doesn't seem like legionaires disease me.
Come on Matt. Where's your response
Anonymous S joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #811,589
Green !BEERiVqJJw replied with this 9 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #811,593
Anonymous T joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #811,599
Green !BEERiVqJJw replied with this 9 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #811,601
Anonymous T replied with this 9 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #811,602
@previous (Green !BEERiVqJJw)
So what. I'm on my work phone. I'm not trying to hide anything, maybe if you got off your fat arse someone will give you a work phone.
So what. I'm on my work phone. I'm not trying to hide anything, maybe if you got off your fat arse someone will give you a work phone.
Anonymous U joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #811,604
chili dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 9 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #811,616
@811,544 (Meta)
I'm not so sure you're entirely correct. I do know a few people who use meth more habitually and are surprisingly functional, as well as more recreational users.
I'm not so sure you're entirely correct. I do know a few people who use meth more habitually and are surprisingly functional, as well as more recreational users.
Anonymous J replied with this 9 years ago, 25 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #811,618
@811,583 (Green !BEERiVqJJw)
those bottles of water you think so much of...they are pretty much the same water as what comes out of the sink in your flat..
no shit..
those bottles of water you think so much of...they are pretty much the same water as what comes out of the sink in your flat..
no shit..
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Anonymous J replied with this 9 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #811,620
@811,616 (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
I was suprisingly functional for quite some time when I began injecting various drugs into my veins on a regular basis..
as were dozens of individuals I have been associated with..
there is a constant and inevitable erosion or degradation of that functionality that will begin at some point..
I was suprisingly functional for quite some time when I began injecting various drugs into my veins on a regular basis..
as were dozens of individuals I have been associated with..
there is a constant and inevitable erosion or degradation of that functionality that will begin at some point..
Anonymous J double-posted this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #811,621
chili dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 9 years ago, 18 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #811,628
@811,620 (J)
Nobody is disagreeing with that. It is just much slower and less drastic than many imagine.
Nobody is disagreeing with that. It is just much slower and less drastic than many imagine.
Dead !Pool..v42s replied with this 9 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #811,630
Anonymous J replied with this 9 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #811,634
Anonymous W joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 32 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #811,636
@811,628 (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
> Nobody is disagreeing with that. It is just much slower and less drastic than many imagine.
... lol
> Nobody is disagreeing with that. It is just much slower and less drastic than many imagine.
... lol
Anonymous J replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #811,639
@811,630 (Dead !Pool..v42s)
undoubtably...you are exceptionally well qualified to make an observation such as that..
undoubtably...you are exceptionally well qualified to make an observation such as that..
Anonymous J double-posted this 9 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #811,643
@811,636 (W)
she is speaking truth..
all the anti drug propaganda would have you imagine people who begin using this or that 'hard' drug become strung out fiends within a few weeks..
she is speaking truth..
all the anti drug propaganda would have you imagine people who begin using this or that 'hard' drug become strung out fiends within a few weeks..
Dead !Pool..v42s replied with this 9 years ago, 41 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #811,645
@811,639 (J)
Well, since I made the post that you are misinterpreting, I feel pretty fucking qualified.
Well, since I made the post that you are misinterpreting, I feel pretty fucking qualified.
chili dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 9 years ago, 24 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #811,665
@811,636 (W)
The only indicator of when my friend is on heroin is that he's kind of a jerk on dope
/shrug
The only indicator of when my friend is on heroin is that he's kind of a jerk on dope
/shrug