Topic: Ask an antifa anything
!woXYIQX//I started this discussion 9 years ago #65,549
will ignore trolls / spam and stop responding when i get bored
This thread is friendly to anarchists, socialists, NEETs
This thread is friendly to anarchists, socialists, NEETs
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 11 minutes later[^] [v] #809,480
How do you pronounce antifa
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 8 minutes later, 19 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #809,483
it hit you when it hit like when your daddy hit you the first time
!woXYIQX//I (OP) replied with this 9 years ago, 30 minutes later, 49 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #809,487
@809,480 (B)
> How do you pronounce antifa
anti- fuh
short for anti-fascist. not anne TEE fa (how our adversaries pronounce it)
@previous (C)
my dad didnt hit me because im not from a degenerate family
> How do you pronounce antifa
anti- fuh
short for anti-fascist. not anne TEE fa (how our adversaries pronounce it)
@previous (C)
my dad didnt hit me because im not from a degenerate family
Anonymous C replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 51 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #809,489
@previous (!woXYIQX//I)
> > How do you pronounce antifa
> anti- fuh
> short for anti-fascist. not anne TEE fa (how our adversaries pronounce it)
>
>
> my dad didnt hit me because im not from a degenerate family
rest assured he peaked at your breasts and cunt
> > How do you pronounce antifa
> anti- fuh
> short for anti-fascist. not anne TEE fa (how our adversaries pronounce it)
>
>
> my dad didnt hit me because im not from a degenerate family
rest assured he peaked at your breasts and cunt
(Edited 1 minute later.)
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 17 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #809,493
Are antifa all fuckin nerds too
Anonymous D double-posted this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #809,494
are you the guy who wore all that armor to go to a protest a few months ago
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #809,496
how many demos have you attended in bloc?
How many times have you been sprayed or gassed?
Have you taken hits from LTL rounds?
Do LRAD hurt?
Are you vegan?
With whom do you volunteer?
How do you practice mutual aid?
How many times have you been sprayed or gassed?
Have you taken hits from LTL rounds?
Do LRAD hurt?
Are you vegan?
With whom do you volunteer?
How do you practice mutual aid?
Anonymous C replied with this 9 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #809,503
Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #809,504
@OP
> This thread is friendly to anarchists, socialists, NEETs
Saying that doesn't make it so. Thanks.
> This thread is friendly to anarchists, socialists, NEETs
Saying that doesn't make it so. Thanks.
Anonymous C replied with this 9 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #809,507
@previous (Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo)
> > This thread is friendly to anarchists, socialists, NEETs
>
> Saying that doesn't make it so. Thanks.
so typical radfemme that hates the opposition and trusts herself to be lovely
> > This thread is friendly to anarchists, socialists, NEETs
>
> Saying that doesn't make it so. Thanks.
so typical radfemme that hates the opposition and trusts herself to be lovely
Anonymous E replied with this 9 years ago, 44 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #809,508
Anonymous C replied with this 9 years ago, 52 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #809,509
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #809,536
Why do you all hide your faces when brave protesters are proud to stand up for what they believe in?
Green !BEERiVqJJw joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 12 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #809,542
Hoe many bins have you toppled?
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 17 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #809,548
Dead !Pool..v42s joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 8 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #809,556
Did ya go to flint?
Anonymous C replied with this 9 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #809,558
always one human rattan on another for some thoughts
kook !!OPZbEQMT1 joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 5 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #809,559
Are you a tranny?
Anonymous E replied with this 9 years ago, 6 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #809,560
@OP new question: where'd you go?
Anonymous E double-posted this 9 years ago, 12 hours later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #809,792
rip op
!woXYIQX//I (OP) replied with this 9 years ago, 17 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #810,167
@809,493 (D)
Plenty are. Hell, most punks are
@809,496 (E)
> how many demos have you attended in bloc?
Probably 10
> How many times have you been sprayed or gassed?
4 times
> Have you taken hits from LTL rounds?
Fortunately, not yet
> Do LRAD hurt?
No
> Are you vegan?
No, nor vegetarian.
> With whom do you volunteer?
Various local groups
> How do you practice mutual aid?
Volunteering with food-related stuff, mostly
@809,536 (G)
I cover my face because (a) nazis / police / media don't like us, and (b) it keeps the teargas out. I don't protest to virtue signal or anything. Hell, none of my coworkers know I'm radical...
Plenty are. Hell, most punks are
@809,496 (E)
> how many demos have you attended in bloc?
Probably 10
> How many times have you been sprayed or gassed?
4 times
> Have you taken hits from LTL rounds?
Fortunately, not yet
> Do LRAD hurt?
No
> Are you vegan?
No, nor vegetarian.
> With whom do you volunteer?
Various local groups
> How do you practice mutual aid?
Volunteering with food-related stuff, mostly
@809,536 (G)
I cover my face because (a) nazis / police / media don't like us, and (b) it keeps the teargas out. I don't protest to virtue signal or anything. Hell, none of my coworkers know I'm radical...
kook !!OPZbEQMT1 replied with this 9 years ago, 14 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #810,275
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 28 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #810,280
@810,167 (!woXYIQX//I)
I think Democrats are starting to dislike you and your tactics too. You are playing right into the hands of hate groups
I think Democrats are starting to dislike you and your tactics too. You are playing right into the hands of hate groups
Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo replied with this 9 years ago, 18 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #810,288
Anonymous E replied with this 9 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #810,309
Anonymous E double-posted this 9 years ago, 39 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #810,310
@810,280 (L)
Leftists have never been liked by moderates and centrists. At the time of the 1960s civil rights demonstrations the public opinion was mostly against the protests.
There might never be a perfect leftist protester who the mainstream decides to tolerate.
Leftists have never been liked by moderates and centrists. At the time of the 1960s civil rights demonstrations the public opinion was mostly against the protests.
There might never be a perfect leftist protester who the mainstream decides to tolerate.
squeegee joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 13 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #810,315
so what was the line and when did it get crossed for you personally. like, what made you decide to get up and be a leftist radical? i have a line too, but it's actually pretty far out there. i'd need to have my life very majorly impacted. mostly i'd need to probably lose my job, i think. but really i think the line is really pretty much beyond a point of no return i think, for me. i'd have to think, "alright, my life is over as i know it, might as well join the cause," kinda thing.
i guess my question is what motivates you to expend the energy now? like the energy to escalate things. what motivates that kind of behavior rather than, like, super peaceful sit-ins and quiet protests and other kinds of non-violent protests? why counter-protests specifically, especially since there are people escalating things. is it really time to be fighting in the streets? why expend that kind of energy right now when no one is organizing large scale peaceful protests that aren't just knee jerk counter protests?
why aren't there giant sit-in style protests in front of the white house right now, like occupy? antifa is choosing to expend energy in the form of counterprotests, which often turn violent and endanger lives, and i'm just not sure we're at the point where we as citizens need to be taking to the streets looking for open conflict.
i would understand antifa a lot better if they organized peaceful events. i mean, let the alt-right come counter protest and run over a bunch of people at a sit-in. you want to win this thing, then it'll be won with pacifism and demonstrating who the bad hombres really are. organize a peaceful million man march on washington to protest the administration's handling of everything and organize a semi-permanent occupy washington kinda thing and i'd support that with donations and my time.
but going out to try and stamp out opposition isn't something i think is really needed right now. why do you?
i guess my question is what motivates you to expend the energy now? like the energy to escalate things. what motivates that kind of behavior rather than, like, super peaceful sit-ins and quiet protests and other kinds of non-violent protests? why counter-protests specifically, especially since there are people escalating things. is it really time to be fighting in the streets? why expend that kind of energy right now when no one is organizing large scale peaceful protests that aren't just knee jerk counter protests?
why aren't there giant sit-in style protests in front of the white house right now, like occupy? antifa is choosing to expend energy in the form of counterprotests, which often turn violent and endanger lives, and i'm just not sure we're at the point where we as citizens need to be taking to the streets looking for open conflict.
i would understand antifa a lot better if they organized peaceful events. i mean, let the alt-right come counter protest and run over a bunch of people at a sit-in. you want to win this thing, then it'll be won with pacifism and demonstrating who the bad hombres really are. organize a peaceful million man march on washington to protest the administration's handling of everything and organize a semi-permanent occupy washington kinda thing and i'd support that with donations and my time.
but going out to try and stamp out opposition isn't something i think is really needed right now. why do you?
Anonymous E replied with this 9 years ago, 37 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #810,335
@previous (squeegee)
Antifa specifically agitates to deny a forum and platform for various forms and modes of fascism and authoritarian bigotry. That's the antifa platform.
People who bloc up and demo as antifa are variously involved with radical leftist groups with more specific focus, like prison abolitionism, food security, and more. Antifascist actions are just one form of direct action.
Just as black bloc is a tactic and not a group, antifa is an idea and not an organized party. The plans are simple: bloc up, defend your community, and support your peers while denying space and comfort to the authoritarian right wing that calls for genocide.
Antifa is specifically violent toward those targets because there is a history and ongoing expectation that police and liberals will provide space and platforms for fascists. When there's strong evidence of collusion, cooperation, and shared interests between fascists and the police then why bother trying to work within the system? Why set up marginalized people to be harmed? This call to action is about denying fascists and not about winning a losing battle in which order and safety are preserved for the liberals.
Antifa specifically agitates to deny a forum and platform for various forms and modes of fascism and authoritarian bigotry. That's the antifa platform.
People who bloc up and demo as antifa are variously involved with radical leftist groups with more specific focus, like prison abolitionism, food security, and more. Antifascist actions are just one form of direct action.
Just as black bloc is a tactic and not a group, antifa is an idea and not an organized party. The plans are simple: bloc up, defend your community, and support your peers while denying space and comfort to the authoritarian right wing that calls for genocide.
Antifa is specifically violent toward those targets because there is a history and ongoing expectation that police and liberals will provide space and platforms for fascists. When there's strong evidence of collusion, cooperation, and shared interests between fascists and the police then why bother trying to work within the system? Why set up marginalized people to be harmed? This call to action is about denying fascists and not about winning a losing battle in which order and safety are preserved for the liberals.
(Edited 4 minutes later.)
Anonymous L replied with this 9 years ago, 7 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #810,342
@previous (E)
That's a strange and sugar coated way to try to explain a group that has been deemed domestic terrorists because of their actions.
That's like saying Nazis are really just free speech advocates
That's a strange and sugar coated way to try to explain a group that has been deemed domestic terrorists because of their actions.
That's like saying Nazis are really just free speech advocates
Anonymous E replied with this 9 years ago, 10 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #810,355
@previous (L)
Nah. It was one Homeland Security Fusion Center where that label was thrown around. It's not official policy, but the opinion of one or two desk job working narcs in a tiny office that has shit funding and hardly any mission. They're a clearinghouse for information.
It's not sugar coating, it's wholly the purpose and mission of antifa. It's an authentic telling without trying to defend or explain everything.
There have been some assholes in blocs that picked wrong targets. There have definitely been agitators from the state and militia groups seeking to put bad attention on leftists. It's not clear to anybody how much overlap there is between those groups—the dumbasses and the provocateurs.
Nah. It was one Homeland Security Fusion Center where that label was thrown around. It's not official policy, but the opinion of one or two desk job working narcs in a tiny office that has shit funding and hardly any mission. They're a clearinghouse for information.
It's not sugar coating, it's wholly the purpose and mission of antifa. It's an authentic telling without trying to defend or explain everything.
There have been some assholes in blocs that picked wrong targets. There have definitely been agitators from the state and militia groups seeking to put bad attention on leftists. It's not clear to anybody how much overlap there is between those groups—the dumbasses and the provocateurs.
squeegee replied with this 9 years ago, 6 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #810,356
@810,335 (E)
so you don't think that traditional tactics can be effective today? and you don't think there's a victory to be had that preserves the order and safety for everyone?
so you don't think that traditional tactics can be effective today? and you don't think there's a victory to be had that preserves the order and safety for everyone?
Anonymous E replied with this 9 years ago, 8 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #810,365
@previous (squeegee)
What are traditional tactics? Do you think all 1960s civil rights demonstrations and participants were nonviolent? The lunch counter sit ins started a handful of brawls. The majority of the public strongly hated the Freedom Riders.
Was Jesus using traditional tactics when he wrecked the hall of money changers? (Sorry)
White lberals will always prefer the status quo and appearance of safety—for themselves—and continually say "now is not the time" or "I would support you only if you didn't do X." It's fallacious to think these moving goalposts will ever work out.
When there are ongoing hate crimes for the color of somebody's skin or who somebody kisses then is there existing order and safety? An injury to one is an injury to all isn't just a catchphrase. The same is true for nobody is free until we are all free.
There is active, ongoing pain and persecution leaving many marginalized people without safety and justice. I think that selective, targeted actions to fight back against oppressors is moral.
What are traditional tactics? Do you think all 1960s civil rights demonstrations and participants were nonviolent? The lunch counter sit ins started a handful of brawls. The majority of the public strongly hated the Freedom Riders.
Was Jesus using traditional tactics when he wrecked the hall of money changers? (Sorry)
White lberals will always prefer the status quo and appearance of safety—for themselves—and continually say "now is not the time" or "I would support you only if you didn't do X." It's fallacious to think these moving goalposts will ever work out.
When there are ongoing hate crimes for the color of somebody's skin or who somebody kisses then is there existing order and safety? An injury to one is an injury to all isn't just a catchphrase. The same is true for nobody is free until we are all free.
There is active, ongoing pain and persecution leaving many marginalized people without safety and justice. I think that selective, targeted actions to fight back against oppressors is moral.
squeegee replied with this 9 years ago, 32 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #810,400
Anonymous I replied with this 9 years ago, 8 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #810,403
lil rabblerousing fags need a good ol Kent State type spanking..
Anonymous E replied with this 9 years ago, 30 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #810,421
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Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #810,430
@OP
> will ignore trolls / spam and stop responding when i get bored
>
> This thread is friendly to anarchists, socialists, NEETs
Project veritas here. We are eliminating your antifa terrorist group. Video has been captured.
> will ignore trolls / spam and stop responding when i get bored
>
> This thread is friendly to anarchists, socialists, NEETs
Project veritas here. We are eliminating your antifa terrorist group. Video has been captured.
Anonymous I replied with this 9 years ago, 18 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #810,436
@810,421 (E)
Lol...post your arm son..
do it within the next ten mins with a sign that says mc on it..
I dare you..
Lol...post your arm son..
do it within the next ten mins with a sign that says mc on it..
I dare you..
Anonymous O joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 7 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #810,442
@previous (I)
By "mc" did you mean MineCraft? Also, does a computer screen count as a "sign"?
http://imgur.com/gallery/u7wvc0E
By "mc" did you mean MineCraft? Also, does a computer screen count as a "sign"?
http://imgur.com/gallery/u7wvc0E
Anonymous P joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 30 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #810,481
@810,436 (I)
Oh here goes fagbert again, wants someone to post a pic of their arm. As if that's gonna prove anything.
Oh here goes fagbert again, wants someone to post a pic of their arm. As if that's gonna prove anything.
Anonymous D replied with this 9 years ago, 5 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #810,579
@810,436 (I)> Lol...post your arm son..
>
> do it within the next ten mins with a sign that says mc on it..
> I dare you..