Minichan

> what about when in everyday life when someone's house gets hit by lightning and burns down...or a creek is flooded and someone is driving home and their car gets washed downstream and is ruined...

It's called insurance, bud.

> or a factory they work at closes and they can't pay their mortgage...WHERE is their buttload of Gubberment cash..

Lol, are you sure you're a conservative?

> I'm just wondering how it is just and right to repair and compensate 'some people' when they experience financial hardship...and then do nothing for other folks who are experiencing the same circumstances..

What happened to those people was was an "act of Gawd", they had no control over it. You did have control over your life choices and made poor ones, it doesn't warrant you a payout.

Fucking commie.

> 'some people' when they experience financial hardship...and then do nothing for other folks who are experiencing the same circumstances..

Gubberment can only come up with some funds for people that are sober and will work for a living. If the Gubberment started handing out money to drunken bums living on the street, that is money down the drain.

@808,878 (B)

> >what about when in everyday life when someone's house gets hit by lightning and burns down...or a creek is flooded and someone is driving home and their car gets washed downstream and is ruined...
>
> It's called insurance, bud.

But FEMA is going to hand out cash to people who lost their homes in Harvey...even if they didn't have insurance..

If some guy's house gets struck by lightning in Vermont and burns down... isn't that an act of God...in the same vernacular as in a so called disaster...if he didn't have insurance is FEMA going to give him cash..

> >or a factory they work at closes and they can't pay their mortgage...WHERE is their buttload of Gubberment cash..
>
> Lol, are you sure you're a conservative?


> >I'm just wondering how it is just and right to repair and compensate 'some people' when they experience financial hardship...and then do nothing for other folks who are experiencing the same circumstances..
>
> What happened to those people was was an "act of Gawd", they had no control over it. You did have control over your life choices and made poor ones, it doesn't warrant you a payout.
>
> Fucking commie

This has nothing to do with me...ass..

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@808,879 (C)


I just think this FEMA cash handout deal is looked on by a lot of folks as being the same kind of thing where someone gets hit by a car and they flop down and scream call my lawyer...while visions of quitting their job and sitting on the beach sipping lemonade with their fat settlement funding it all..

@808,885 (A)
Point is, you get insurance so you're covered in the event your house is struck by lightning, the creek rises, or wtfe. You know, like normal people, the concept of homeowners insurance may be insane to a vagrant, but I assure you it's fairly common in the US.

You're continued bellyaching about how unfair it is that these victims are getting a pittance from the state to help them rebuild their lives after a grate tragedy is appalling.

@808,885 (A)
I see your point. Some random person gets hit by an act of God. Next time they will pry to a more relevant God.

Population of Huston is 2.303 million. 100,000's of thousands are in dire straits. Gubberment needs to get them sheltered and back to work so they can pay tax's. Buy lawn seed that is taxed etc etc.

Do the math.

@808,888 (A)
> I just think this FEMA cash handout deal is looked on by a lot of folks as being the same kind of thing where someone gets hit by a car and they flop down and scream call my lawyer...while visions of quitting their job and sitting on the beach sipping lemonade with their fat settlement funding it all..

What the fuck is wrong with you?

@previous (B)
I did not intend to be so crass..

I can't wait to see cowboys walking around in Portland after they spend their FEMA money on a bus ticket here.

I think you're probably just mad that no one is funding your alcoholism.

threads grate

I think fema is also helping with the wildfires over in oregon

THIS...Look at THIS..


https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/10/did-katrina-victims-really-spend-their-relief-money-on-gucci-bags-and-massage-parlors/264377/

@previous (A)
kys

I would guess that with an individual disaster, like one person's house being destroyed by a tornado, the idea is that local infrastructure to deal with it is still in place. Harvey and Katrina destroyed the local infrastructure as well.

@previous (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
makes sense..

KATRINA..

About 250,000 katrina refugees went to live WHERE...Houston!!!
Hmmmmmmmmm...


Guess whats likely to happen now...this might clue you in:


News Hurricane Katrina
Debit Card Abuse
Have debit cards issued Katrina evacuees been used to purchase luxury or entertainment items?

CLAIM: Debit cards issued to Hurricane Katrina evacuees have been used to purchase luxury or entertainment items.


STATUS: TRUE.

EXAMPLE: [Collected on the Internet, 2005]


Yesterday, I was shopping for my mother in Dillard’s at Lakeline Mall in Austin, TX. I admired a suit, but it was too expensive for me to purchase. You can imagine my shock when I witness the suit being purchased by a Katrina “refugee” using the government-issued debit card!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I thought certainly there must be controls on these debit cards that would preclude recipients from using the money to purchase items other taxpayers cannot afford, but I was mistaken. I heard the sales clerk call the Dillard’s business office and confirm that the “American Red Cross Debit Card” could be used for the woman’s purchase. After the transaction was completed, I asked the sales clerk to confirm this and she did.
Now, when these debit cards that we the taxpayers provided are used up, what will happen? Will you give them even more of our money to purchase items the taxpayers cannot afford? I already know the answer. Based on the social welfare system that exists in our country, you will just give them more money. This system does not pass the “is this right?” test. You have hard-working, tax-paying citizens who worry every month whether they’ll make it financially. And, you take their earnings and “re-distribute” it to others who do not work but wear better clothes, drive newer cars and have manicures, cell phones, and designer handbags. Yea, if you’d just send me one of those debit cards, I could buy my mother that nice suit.

I have copied everyone in my address book. I am asking them to send this to everyone in their address books. This is the reality of our social welfare system. It must stop.

Suzzette Chapman
223 W. Mockingbird Lane
Harker Heights, Texas 76548


ORIGINS: Through its disaster management agency FEMA, the federal government issued more than 10,000 debit cards to Hurricane Katrina refugees in Houston, Dallas, and San Antonio. Each card carried a monetary value of $2,000. While the only overtly stated restrictions on their use prohibited the purchase of alcohol, tobacco or firearms, recipients were required to sign an agreement promising to use the cards only for disaster recovery purposes; that is, expenses related to the process of rebuilding their lives.

On 11 September 2005, just three days after its start, the debit card program was discontinued after refugees expressed frustration with the process. FEMA has since reverted to its traditional mode of directly depositing cash into the bank accounts of those being

assisted.

While the intent of the novel program was to quickly thrust money into the hands of those left homeless by Hurricane Katrina and in need of ready cash with which to meet living expenses, not everyone who received debit cards kept their purchases in line with the spirit of the program’s purpose. At least some of the cards were used to buy luxury or entertainment items.

One of the first news outlets to report on abuse of these financial instruments was the New York Daily News, who broke the story that two of the cards had been used in Atlanta to buy $800 Louis Vuitton handbags. (That claim has been substantiated by MSNBC’s Abrams Report; the store confirmed to them that it happened.) Others have been spotted in adult entertainment venues — according to a report by KPRC Channel 2 in Houston, the wife of a strip club manager in that city said her husband has seen patrons from Louisiana offering FEMA and Red Cross debit cards. A manager at Caligula XXI Gentlemen’s Club told KPRC that he has seen at least one card used at his club. “Abby,” a bartender at Baby Dolls, another strip club in Houston, said customers are paying for drinks with what may be FEMA or Red Cross debit cards.

Syndicated radio talk show host Neal Boortz says FEMA debit cards were also used to pay for breast implants. (That assertion stands as unconfirmed at the moment.) We have ourselves received numerous e-mails from folks who claim they or someone they know saw the cards used to purchase expensive suits, diamond earrings, $300 handbags, and large plasma screen televisions. While we can’t confirm any of those specifically, we do know the Houston Police Department formed a task force to investigate abuse of the FEMA-issued debit cards.

How many of the cards have been misused is unknown at this point, but Lt. Craig Williams of the Houston Police Department Fraud Task Force says a majority of people are using the money the way it was intended.

While the FEMA-issued card program has been brought to an end, the American Red Cross continues to give out debit cards, called Client Assistance Cards. Like FEMA’s program, each disaster victim must agree to use the cards for emergency needs, such as food, housing, and clothing. Those too have been abused; for example, Red Cross records show one was used for entertainment items at a Best Buy (a computers, stereos, TVs, and other electronics store) in Kentucky for more than $1,000.

@previous (A)
oh shut up

> somebody spent their money poorly so it obviously means they don't deserve it
> government is bad and they're disbursing money for disaster relief so my lazy drunken ass definitely deserves some of that sweet cash
> some colored folk definitely don't deserve support for the disaster they have experienced so sign me up for $1000 in gift cards to Wendy's

kys

you guys bert isn't just homeless because he's a drunk. he's also retarded

motherfuckers at tc yammered and squeeled non stop about me when I was living in a damned tent in freezing weather and they kept talking shit about me spending a fucking dollar on a fast food burger instead of buying a bag of pinto beans and cooking them on a hubcap over a fire..

or if I spent a dollar on booze theyd say nóooooooope don't ask us for a dollar to buy a pair of pants at the thrift store..

yet oh its OK for these other people to totally waste thousands and thousands..

fucking stupid shitlords..

@previous (A)
I remember suggesting the super low cost Pinto beans but someone else must have suggested cooking in the hubcap.

Now what we have here is Interesting Lots of the current Texas politicians asking for Gubberment money were AGAINST the Katrina and Sandy money because it was NOT in their backyard - Now they act more different

This is a case of Socialism melded with Democracy - Anytime Billions of bucks are being dolled out you have to expect some level of corruption.
It ain't exactly a perfect world and they say Man was made in Gods image and we all no how if that is true then God is somewhat corrupt.

@808,988 (A)
Just because some people, like yourself, would abuse the system, isn't a good enough justification to stop it. Sorry, pal. Although it's hilarious to see how jealous you are of these victims.

@809,007 (Syntax)
I don't want people to be homeless and hungry... it's tragic what is going on there...if it doesnt make a man's eyes water up a little considering what some of those folks are going through...somethings wrong with that man..

@808,988 (A)
Black people abusing a welfare system? Who would have guessed

@previous (J)
White people taking tax deductions are verifiably milking more money from the state than nonwhite people. Your bigotry is showing.

@809,010 (B)
lel

@809,004 (A)

Bitch I should be making a little fire and eating tinned beans cooked in the tin

@809,031 (F)
Tax the hard working to give to the lazy has been tried before, people don't want to do it anymore.

@previous (J)
> hard working
lol

@809,034 (J)
> muh platitudes