Topic: Should I join the Peace Corps?
Anonymous A started this discussion 15 years ago #6,498
Why or why not?
| Poll option | Votes | Percentage | Graph |
|---|---|---|---|
| Yes | 4 | 44% | |
| No | 5 | 56% |
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later[^] [v] #113,041
what is it
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #113,042
@previous (mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos)
It is a US government organization that travels the world to do humanitarian, peaceful things to foreign people in need.
It is a US government organization that travels the world to do humanitarian, peaceful things to foreign people in need.
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #113,046
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 29 seconds later, 4 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #113,047
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 15 years ago, 2 seconds later, 4 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #113,048
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 29 seconds later, 4 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #113,050
@previous (mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos)
Do you know of one that sends its people around the world to exotic locations to help people and is fully funded?
Do you know of one that sends its people around the world to exotic locations to help people and is fully funded?
Anonymous C replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #113,055
@113,047 (A)
Then I think that you should definitely do it. Good luck if you do!
@113,048 (mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos)
Shut up, mountainman, you've been being a fucking moron lately
Then I think that you should definitely do it. Good luck if you do!
@113,048 (mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos)
Shut up, mountainman, you've been being a fucking moron lately
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 15 years ago, 13 seconds later, 6 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #113,056
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos double-posted this 15 years ago, 31 seconds later, 6 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #113,058
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 20 seconds later, 7 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #113,061
@113,055 (C)
Ok I think I will! You are basically paid for, for years as you go to needy countries and help people. It can be builing dams, feeding children, or almost anything. you do not get a salary, but you get room and board eveywhere. It is a way to see the world without joining the military.
Ok I think I will! You are basically paid for, for years as you go to needy countries and help people. It can be builing dams, feeding children, or almost anything. you do not get a salary, but you get room and board eveywhere. It is a way to see the world without joining the military.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 25 seconds later, 7 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #113,063
@113,056 (mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos)
You do not get paid...you get your room and board, but you are volunteering basically.
You do not get paid...you get your room and board, but you are volunteering basically.
stickybuns !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 9 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #113,066
@previous (A)
that is getting paid... I volunteered overseas for a time. I had to pay to get there and pay to stay there. If you are not doing that, you are taking, instead of giving.
that is getting paid... I volunteered overseas for a time. I had to pay to get there and pay to stay there. If you are not doing that, you are taking, instead of giving.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 48 seconds later, 10 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #113,068
@previous (stickybuns !4EB6xd.Oos)
I disagree...how am I supposed to support myself full time, WHILE working full time to help others? Hell, even Paul in the New Testament argued for his right to be paid by the churches so he could do his work.
I disagree...how am I supposed to support myself full time, WHILE working full time to help others? Hell, even Paul in the New Testament argued for his right to be paid by the churches so he could do his work.
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 11 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #113,072
@previous (A)
read it again... Paul didn't make use of that right. He worked to support himself. He took up offerings for the poor in Jerusalem.
read it again... Paul didn't make use of that right. He worked to support himself. He took up offerings for the poor in Jerusalem.
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos double-posted this 15 years ago, 22 seconds later, 12 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #113,074
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 31 seconds later, 12 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #113,075
@113,072 (mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos)
Yes he did, but he still said it was a right. If he had taken the support and not worked, he still would have been in the right.
Yes he did, but he still said it was a right. If he had taken the support and not worked, he still would have been in the right.
Anonymous C replied with this 15 years ago, 22 seconds later, 13 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #113,077
Implying giving away money is a fucking good thing. Fuck you stickybuns. Fuck you mountainman.
fucking morons
fucking morons
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 17 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #113,083
@113,075 (A)
Yes but he went above and beyond! You can, too.
I'm just suggesting it. You are correct, no one should fault you for accepting payment.
I am just opposed to government charity. Charity should be willingly given, not forcefully taken.
Yes but he went above and beyond! You can, too.
I'm just suggesting it. You are correct, no one should fault you for accepting payment.
I am just opposed to government charity. Charity should be willingly given, not forcefully taken.
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos double-posted this 15 years ago, 52 seconds later, 18 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #113,084
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 14 seconds later, 18 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #113,085
@113,083 (mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos)
But this is not charity. It is not money for nothing. It is money to provide only the bare essentials as I travel the world and do work that the US government wants me to do. If anything, it is a severely underpaid job.
But this is not charity. It is not money for nothing. It is money to provide only the bare essentials as I travel the world and do work that the US government wants me to do. If anything, it is a severely underpaid job.
Anonymous C replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 20 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #113,090
@113,084 (mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos)
So is pocketing a share. Do you even work? And how is it that, because it's government charity, it's forcefully taken? There's no draft for the Peace Corps. They're actually very selective.
Also, at least you know they're not going to go and build a fucking church. Yeah, go to a goddamn third world country and build them a church. God will help them, right? A meeting place. What bullshit is that
So is pocketing a share. Do you even work? And how is it that, because it's government charity, it's forcefully taken? There's no draft for the Peace Corps. They're actually very selective.
Also, at least you know they're not going to go and build a fucking church. Yeah, go to a goddamn third world country and build them a church. God will help them, right? A meeting place. What bullshit is that
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mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 22 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #113,093
@113,085 (A)
No, not charity toward you, charity toward the people you will be helping. I am opposed to government foreign aid. It should be left to the people to decide where they want to donate their money to.
No, not charity toward you, charity toward the people you will be helping. I am opposed to government foreign aid. It should be left to the people to decide where they want to donate their money to.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 57 seconds later, 23 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #113,094
@previous (mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos)
Seriously??? You are against the US government giving rice to a starving African child, simply because no one there has given it to him?
Seriously??? You are against the US government giving rice to a starving African child, simply because no one there has given it to him?
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 24 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #113,096
@113,090 (C)
No, I do not work. I study full time and live off my savings.
All government revenue is forcably taken. Smaller government = less coercion, less violence.
If you are not interested in building churches, do not volunteer for a religious charity then. Simple.
No, I do not work. I study full time and live off my savings.
All government revenue is forcably taken. Smaller government = less coercion, less violence.
If you are not interested in building churches, do not volunteer for a religious charity then. Simple.
Anonymous C replied with this 15 years ago, 1 second later, 24 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #113,097
@113,093 (mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos)
It ultimately is, dumbass. It's not money; it's labor and actual work. If anything, it's eliminating a middleman. You're not getting payed, you're being supplied with essentials. Where does government money come from? You.
It ultimately is, dumbass. It's not money; it's labor and actual work. If anything, it's eliminating a middleman. You're not getting payed, you're being supplied with essentials. Where does government money come from? You.
Anonymous C double-posted this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 26 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #113,102
@113,096 (mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos)
Who pays for all your expensive equipment and clothes? And you're getting so preachy. you faux-altruist hypocrite bastard pedophile dumbass shithead
Who pays for all your expensive equipment and clothes? And you're getting so preachy. you faux-altruist hypocrite bastard pedophile dumbass shithead
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 15 years ago, 15 seconds later, 27 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #113,103
@113,094 (A)
I am against the USA federal government taking money from its citizens and giving them to various African governments. This is outside the constitution.
People such as you and I should be free to donate our money where we think it will be most effective. To be able to start our own charities, or help by going over there ourselves using our money, instead of the government taking our money and spending it how it wants.
I am against the USA federal government taking money from its citizens and giving them to various African governments. This is outside the constitution.
People such as you and I should be free to donate our money where we think it will be most effective. To be able to start our own charities, or help by going over there ourselves using our money, instead of the government taking our money and spending it how it wants.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 47 seconds later, 27 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #113,104
@previous (mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos)
I can understand your principal, yes. And yes, it is outside the Constitution. But, I feel it is a good and right thing.
I can understand your principal, yes. And yes, it is outside the Constitution. But, I feel it is a good and right thing.
Anonymous C replied with this 15 years ago, 4 seconds later, 28 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #113,105
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 15 years ago, 18 seconds later, 28 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #113,106
@113,097 (C)
What is this even answering? The government is the middleman; it should have as little presence in our lives as possible.
What is this even answering? The government is the middleman; it should have as little presence in our lives as possible.
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos double-posted this 15 years ago, 39 seconds later, 28 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #113,107
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 31 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #113,110
@previous (mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos)
Let me tell you a parable. A rich man was given $100 by his rich father to go to the store and buy gourmet food. On the way, the rich son met a starving beggar, full of sores and almost dead. The rich son had compassion and mercy on that beggar, and gave him the $100 to buy food. I ask you, was that rich son right, or wrong?
Let me tell you a parable. A rich man was given $100 by his rich father to go to the store and buy gourmet food. On the way, the rich son met a starving beggar, full of sores and almost dead. The rich son had compassion and mercy on that beggar, and gave him the $100 to buy food. I ask you, was that rich son right, or wrong?
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 15 years ago, 11 seconds later, 31 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #113,112
@113,104 (A)
Charity is a good and right thing, but government charity is inherently tyrannical.
The USA doesn't just give aid to starving orphans - it gives aid to military dictators, and oppressive monarchs. It gives aid to Israel AND Israel's Arab enemies.
There is too much room for corruption in Federal foreign aid.
Charity is a good and right thing, but government charity is inherently tyrannical.
The USA doesn't just give aid to starving orphans - it gives aid to military dictators, and oppressive monarchs. It gives aid to Israel AND Israel's Arab enemies.
There is too much room for corruption in Federal foreign aid.
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 15 seconds later, 31 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #113,114
loll
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 15 years ago, 22 seconds later, 32 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #113,115
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 33 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #113,119
@113,112 (mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos)
But answer my parable question. Was that rich son right, or wrong?
But answer my parable question. Was that rich son right, or wrong?
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 34 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #113,120
@113,110 (A)
In ancient times this would be a hard thing. Now one could simply call the father and ask if he can use his father's money to help the beggar.
Otherwise he is stealing. What if you paid someone to build a house for you but instead of buying materials and hiring laborers they gave the money to charity?
In ancient times this would be a hard thing. Now one could simply call the father and ask if he can use his father's money to help the beggar.
Otherwise he is stealing. What if you paid someone to build a house for you but instead of buying materials and hiring laborers they gave the money to charity?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 36 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #113,122
@previous (mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos)
Let me deal with my parable first, and then I will answer your questions. So, you are saying that it would be good and right for that rich son to walk by the beggar, leave him miserable and suffering and dying, and buy gourmet food for his father?
Let me deal with my parable first, and then I will answer your questions. So, you are saying that it would be good and right for that rich son to walk by the beggar, leave him miserable and suffering and dying, and buy gourmet food for his father?
Ks !KansasxqvM joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 33 seconds later, 36 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #113,123
50/50
Well FUCK, I can't vote now. ;/
Well FUCK, I can't vote now. ;/
stickybuns !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 40 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #113,128
@113,122 (A)
Yes, it would. It would be bad and wrong for him to steal his father's money, regardless of what he spends it on.
Would it be good to rob a bank if you gave all the money to charity?
Yes, it would. It would be bad and wrong for him to steal his father's money, regardless of what he spends it on.
Would it be good to rob a bank if you gave all the money to charity?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 55 seconds later, 41 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #113,129
@previous (stickybuns !4EB6xd.Oos)
I think that yes, it would. I have always thought that Robin Hood was in the right. But, we just have to disagree.
I think that yes, it would. I have always thought that Robin Hood was in the right. But, we just have to disagree.
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 48 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #113,135
@previous (A)
I hold consent to be the highest principle of society. It is why murder is wrong, theft is wrong, rape is wrong, and why drugs should be legal and euthanasia should be legal.
I think it is difficult to form a coherent worldview without elevation of the principle of consent.
I hold consent to be the highest principle of society. It is why murder is wrong, theft is wrong, rape is wrong, and why drugs should be legal and euthanasia should be legal.
I think it is difficult to form a coherent worldview without elevation of the principle of consent.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 49 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #113,137
@previous (mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos)
Is consent, then, a higher moral principal, than saving a poor, dying beggar who is writhing in misery?
Is consent, then, a higher moral principal, than saving a poor, dying beggar who is writhing in misery?
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 55 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #113,145
@previous (A)
Theoretically and thus legally: yes.
But I would probably practically ignore this.
If there was a huge bowl of rice with a sign that said DO NOT TOUCH and a starving beggar next to it, I would almost certainly give him some rice and accept the consequence of my action rather than let him die and be "good".
I could not really expand it past this stage though. I couldn't kill someone and take their money and give it to the poor.
Legally, though, we must follow logic, and not inconsistent emotions.
Theoretically and thus legally: yes.
But I would probably practically ignore this.
If there was a huge bowl of rice with a sign that said DO NOT TOUCH and a starving beggar next to it, I would almost certainly give him some rice and accept the consequence of my action rather than let him die and be "good".
I could not really expand it past this stage though. I couldn't kill someone and take their money and give it to the poor.
Legally, though, we must follow logic, and not inconsistent emotions.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 56 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #113,147
@previous (mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos)
Ok, you have a soul and heart then..I was worried. I am glad to hear this from you.
Ok, you have a soul and heart then..I was worried. I am glad to hear this from you.
!34Kas0OdzM joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #113,158
Most certainly!!Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 48 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #113,164
mountainman represents the sheer force of a metric tonne of dicks.
stickybuns !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #113,168
Compelling argument. @previous (G)
Yes !4et0YaTXO. joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 3 hours later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #113,237
lol OP is not I!
stickybuns !bENfolDsOU joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #113,245
The stickybuns here is not me.