Topic: Manslaughter charges for telling someone to kill himself
Anonymous A started this discussion 9 years ago #62,923
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/06/us/suicide-texting-manslaughter-trial.html TAUNTON, Mass. — The teenage couple shared mundane text messages — about a walk and a trip to get ice cream. But there were darker ones.
“It’s time, babe,” Michelle Carter, then 17, texted to her boyfriend, Conrad Roy, who had just texted that he was “ready.”
“You know that,” she wrote. “When you get back from the beach you’ve gotta do it. You’re ready.”
“Okay, I will,” Mr. Roy, 18, typed back, adding: “No more thinking.”
“Yes, no more thinking,” Ms. Carter wrote. “You need to just do it.”
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On Tuesday, Ms. Carter, now 20, is to stand trial here on a charge of involuntary manslaughter in the death of Mr. Roy, who was found dead in his truck in 2014, after that exchange of text messages, more texts and two phone calls.
Mr. Roy was found near a compression pump that had filled the car with carbon monoxide, in a Kmart parking lot in Fairhaven, Mass., and his death was deemed a suicide. But prosecutors say Ms. Carter was to blame.
“It’s time, babe,” Michelle Carter, then 17, texted to her boyfriend, Conrad Roy, who had just texted that he was “ready.”
“You know that,” she wrote. “When you get back from the beach you’ve gotta do it. You’re ready.”
“Okay, I will,” Mr. Roy, 18, typed back, adding: “No more thinking.”
“Yes, no more thinking,” Ms. Carter wrote. “You need to just do it.”
Continue reading the main story
On Tuesday, Ms. Carter, now 20, is to stand trial here on a charge of involuntary manslaughter in the death of Mr. Roy, who was found dead in his truck in 2014, after that exchange of text messages, more texts and two phone calls.
Mr. Roy was found near a compression pump that had filled the car with carbon monoxide, in a Kmart parking lot in Fairhaven, Mass., and his death was deemed a suicide. But prosecutors say Ms. Carter was to blame.
Meta joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 2 minutes later[^] [v] #789,659
How can that even be manslaughter? I mean the guy was in charge of his own actions. What she did was shitty but not illegal.
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 4 minutes later, 7 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #789,663
@previous (Meta)
Manslaughter is a funny term, isn't it? It's not necessarily going to be a man and it's not necessarily going to be a slaughter.
Manslaughter is a funny term, isn't it? It's not necessarily going to be a man and it's not necessarily going to be a slaughter.
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 5 minutes later, 13 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #789,664
Man's laughter
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 6 minutes later, 19 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #789,666
That'll set a precedent for every man that kills himself because of a woman. Women are grate housekeepers, I wonder if they had a house together
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 6 minutes later, 26 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #789,669
sometimes u just gotta fdie
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 25 minutes later, 52 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #789,677
@OP KYS
(Edited by policeman. Anonymous G has been arrested and charged with trannyslaughter)
(Edited by policeman. Anonymous G has been arrested and charged with trannyslaughter)
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FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #789,698
@789,659 (Meta)
You would think so, but the tone of the texts almost makes it sound like she was controlling him somehow or other.
You would think so, but the tone of the texts almost makes it sound like she was controlling him somehow or other.
squeegee joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 15 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #789,699
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i think it could be argued that he was depressed or having a mental health issue and that she used that to manipulate him into killing himself. that's how i see it. if someone is on a ledge, you don't encourage them to jump. and she didn't just encourage him, she displayed a pattern of emotional abuse that was meant to devalue him as a person in his own eyes. then she encouraged him. she had the power to influence him, she could have built up his self esteem and encouraged him to live and i bet he'd still be alive. it's pretty powerful what words can do when someone isn't in their right mind, and being depressed makes people vulnerable to emotional abuse and manipulation.
i think she should go to jail. her lawyer would really need to make a convincing argument imo.
i think it could be argued that he was depressed or having a mental health issue and that she used that to manipulate him into killing himself. that's how i see it. if someone is on a ledge, you don't encourage them to jump. and she didn't just encourage him, she displayed a pattern of emotional abuse that was meant to devalue him as a person in his own eyes. then she encouraged him. she had the power to influence him, she could have built up his self esteem and encouraged him to live and i bet he'd still be alive. it's pretty powerful what words can do when someone isn't in their right mind, and being depressed makes people vulnerable to emotional abuse and manipulation.
i think she should go to jail. her lawyer would really need to make a convincing argument imo.
FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 9 years ago, 19 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #789,704
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The OP headline makes it sound like the typical "kill yourself, faggot" that's rampant on the internet, but this clearly wasn't just some random person lashing out at another. It seems like she was very aware of his mental state and based on the fact that neither of them explicitly mentioned suicide (at least from the messages disclosed) we have to assume that this was something they had discussed multiple times.
I'd guess the lawyer will probably try to go for some sort of mental health defense.
The OP headline makes it sound like the typical "kill yourself, faggot" that's rampant on the internet, but this clearly wasn't just some random person lashing out at another. It seems like she was very aware of his mental state and based on the fact that neither of them explicitly mentioned suicide (at least from the messages disclosed) we have to assume that this was something they had discussed multiple times.
I'd guess the lawyer will probably try to go for some sort of mental health defense.
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Syntax joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 13 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #789,709
and often wrote that they loved each other, rarely met in person.
Interesting story but after viewing lots of law cases on TV
She will get off.
This story will drive autfag even more insane. Also he qualifies for the how to for under $20 award.