Topic: Good news for Europe!!!
Svet !jzYkdX7lIw started this discussion 9 years ago #62,667
The boat "Vos Prudence" has arrived in Naples today with 1444 engineers, doctors and scientists mostly from Nigeria the rest coming from all over Africa.On board there were also 270 women, 44 of them pregnant so that's 44 new doctors in 25 years time.
It really is a good time to living in Europe.
brie !kGoudaMCFA joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 52 seconds later[^] [v] #787,489
How will this affect the value of your flat?
Svet !jzYkdX7lIw (OP) replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #787,491
There was even a small welcoming party to greet Europe's new future Nobel prize winnersSvet !jzYkdX7lIw (OP) double-posted this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #787,492
@787,489 (brie !kGoudaMCFA)Sadly the UK will not be receving anyone of these highly skilled workers or high moral value so no change.
Svet !jzYkdX7lIw (OP) triple-posted this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #787,494
Many other boats are on their way to Italy, carrying hundred of highly skilled workers and wealthy investers.(Edited 22 seconds later.)
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #787,495
Do you have friends irl
Svet !jzYkdX7lIw (OP) replied with this 9 years ago, 38 seconds later, 7 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #787,496
Over 1000 new Germans. HooraySvet !jzYkdX7lIw (OP) double-posted this 9 years ago, 57 seconds later, 8 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #787,497
Anonymous C replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 9 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #787,499
Svet !jzYkdX7lIw (OP) replied with this 9 years ago, 4 minutes later, 14 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #787,500
@previous (C)
I ask them to come to the UK but they choose Germany as our dumb gov won't let them in.
I ask them to come to the UK but they choose Germany as our dumb gov won't let them in.
Svet !jzYkdX7lIw (OP) double-posted this 9 years ago, 2 minutes later, 16 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #787,501
Busses ready to take them to the border so they can move to Germany, Sweden and France where they'll earn big money and pay huge taxes.Anonymous C replied with this 9 years ago, 2 minutes later, 18 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #787,502
I am not Scott
Anonymous C double-posted this 9 years ago, 35 seconds later, 19 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #787,503
I am not Scott
Anonymous C triple-posted this 9 years ago, 4 minutes later, 23 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #787,504
I am not Scott
Svet !jzYkdX7lIw (OP) replied with this 9 years ago, 6 minutes later, 29 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #787,505
Good news everyone. They are hear to stay!!!!Anonymous C replied with this 9 years ago, 13 minutes later, 42 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #787,509
I am not Scott
Svet !jzYkdX7lIw (OP) replied with this 9 years ago, 20 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #787,512
Meanwhile, the boat "Vos Thalassa" has arrived in Palermo, in Sicily, with 1040 refugees and 7 dead, 5 women and 2 kids. This is the first boat that arrived in Italyafter the end of the G7 meeting, when all refugee carrying boats were sent to continental Italy to avoid disturbances.DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 18 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #787,515
@787,496 (Svet !jzYkdX7lIw)
> Naples is your home
Hahaha, those nigs would rather die than stay in Naples. Nofree gibs high skilled job positions there, Germany, Sweden... brace yourself!
> Naples is your home
Hahaha, those nigs would rather die than stay in Naples. No
Syntax joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 34 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #787,526
Svet the business you are in.
Requires customers
Why are you against new customers?
Requires customers
Why are you against new customers?
Meta joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,527
Who's doing the colonizing now? ?Syntax replied with this 9 years ago, 11 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,529
@previous (Meta)
DAMN LOL
Falklands still waiting for Brits to wise up n give up
Brits Raped n Pillage the Planet and now people from all around the Planet want to just visit Brits n say hello in person and offer to wash dishes for them n such
DAMN LOL
Falklands still waiting for Brits to wise up n give up
Brits Raped n Pillage the Planet and now people from all around the Planet want to just visit Brits n say hello in person and offer to wash dishes for them n such
Catherine !TGirlYJKXM joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 18 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,535
I wonder if those engineers are the ones who will return with Christ at the end of the world.
They are 1444.
They are 1444.
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,536
I guess this is how you convince yourself that Brexit was a good idea. You need to think that all immigrants are a horde of toublemakers. Don't worry about why they're fleeing their country, or any industries that rely on immigration.
@787,515 (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
> nigs
> (((jews)))
> obongo
Are you starting to understand why people call you a racist?
@787,515 (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
> nigs
> (((jews)))
> obongo
Are you starting to understand why people call you a racist?
Anonymous H double-posted this 9 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,537
Now I do think there's very much something to be said for keeping control over the amount of refugees coming into a country. At a point it will put a stretch on housing, and will likely fuel existing cultural divides.
The problem is that the politicians the far right has been offering up on an anti-immigration platform are either idiots or corrupt or both. Brexit was economic suicide and a slash to jobs, Trump is a joke, LePen was mired in corruption scandals and admired Putin.
I mean, maybe if you guys could offer up some halfway competent alternatives, you might find more support.
The problem is that the politicians the far right has been offering up on an anti-immigration platform are either idiots or corrupt or both. Brexit was economic suicide and a slash to jobs, Trump is a joke, LePen was mired in corruption scandals and admired Putin.
I mean, maybe if you guys could offer up some halfway competent alternatives, you might find more support.
(Edited 3 minutes later.)
Syntax replied with this 9 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,538
@previous (H)
> At a point it will put a stretch on housing, and will likely fuel existing cultural divides.
Brits n other Eu countries who colonized other nations built wot they currently have on the backs of those nations with rape n pillage
So it only makes cents now that the people of those other countries get back wot was stolen with some interest
> At a point it will put a stretch on housing, and will likely fuel existing cultural divides.
Brits n other Eu countries who colonized other nations built wot they currently have on the backs of those nations with rape n pillage
So it only makes cents now that the people of those other countries get back wot was stolen with some interest
DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,540
@787,536 (H)
Being a nigger isn't a matter of skin color, it's a state of mind. I know a few of both, white niggers, black decent people etc.
I've proven multiple times that I am all in for helping Syrian war refugees, but this "replacement migration" (official UN terminology, I've posted links to UN docs talking in details about it) is just wrong. So if you push a hostile agenda onto the area I live in, I'll respond in a hostile manner.
Now please fuck off, thanks.
Being a nigger isn't a matter of skin color, it's a state of mind. I know a few of both, white niggers, black decent people etc.
I've proven multiple times that I am all in for helping Syrian war refugees, but this "replacement migration" (official UN terminology, I've posted links to UN docs talking in details about it) is just wrong. So if you push a hostile agenda onto the area I live in, I'll respond in a hostile manner.
Now please fuck off, thanks.
Anonymous H replied with this 9 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,541
@previous (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
You're like a right wing version of one of those SJWs who redefines words so they can say they aren't racists.
You're like a right wing version of one of those SJWs who redefines words so they can say they aren't racists.
DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,542
@previous (H)
> clings onto the unimportant semantics and how I use the word nigger, ignores "replacement migration" and other real issues.
Thanks for participating.
> clings onto the unimportant semantics and how I use the word nigger, ignores "replacement migration" and other real issues.
Thanks for participating.
Anonymous H replied with this 9 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,544
@previous (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
What did you want? A pat on the back for you saying you care about Syrian refugees? Well okay then. Well done, DasSheeple. You are not entirely devoid of human empathy.
What did you want? A pat on the back for you saying you care about Syrian refugees? Well okay then. Well done, DasSheeple. You are not entirely devoid of human empathy.
Meta replied with this 9 years ago, 12 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,547
@787,537 (H)
What I would be worried about is the depression of wages for low-skill workers. This is what fuels a lot of the anti-immigration sentiment in America.
For people in a profession with a high barrier to entry there's no downside but for unskilled workers the extra supply depresses wages among those who are already vulnerable.
What I would be worried about is the depression of wages for low-skill workers. This is what fuels a lot of the anti-immigration sentiment in America.
For people in a profession with a high barrier to entry there's no downside but for unskilled workers the extra supply depresses wages among those who are already vulnerable.
Svet !jzYkdX7lIw (OP) replied with this 9 years ago, 58 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,548
Anonymous E replied with this 9 years ago, 6 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,550
@previous (Svet !jzYkdX7lIw)
British Nigeria & Colonial Nigeria (1800–1960)
What the fuck where your relatives doing there?
British Nigeria & Colonial Nigeria (1800–1960)
What the fuck where your relatives doing there?
Svet !jzYkdX7lIw (OP) replied with this 9 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,551
Anonymous E replied with this 9 years ago, 13 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,554
@previous (Svet !jzYkdX7lIw)
> Spreading culture
So you will welcome them back with open arms so they can spread what they have learned. Green can teach them how to sit around and live on the dole.
> Spreading culture
So you will welcome them back with open arms so they can spread what they have learned. Green can teach them how to sit around and live on the dole.
Meta replied with this 9 years ago, 10 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,558
Svet !jzYkdX7lIw (OP) replied with this 9 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,560
@previous (Meta)
@787,529 (Syntax)
Here is a good short video on the Falklands as it stands now and the chance the argies have of taking it back. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fg5amio4jU
TL:DW Falklands will be British for a very long time.
@787,529 (Syntax)
Here is a good short video on the Falklands as it stands now and the chance the argies have of taking it back. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fg5amio4jU
TL:DW Falklands will be British for a very long time.
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 6 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,561
I think it's a nice gesture to give them towels for their heads.
Syntax replied with this 9 years ago, 19 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,562
@787,560 (Svet !jzYkdX7lIw)
WOW I stopped watching at 2 mins in
Yikes that is one hell of a lot of money UK is spending just to protect some Brit Sheep farmers so they can have sheep to fuck instead of women.
Until recently the argument was UK wanted the islands for oil reserves but with oil prices continue to fall there is no money to be made. So its just some sheep farmers that need protection
Yep UK is so overflowing with value of Pound that has raised since Brexit vote - er my math may be off a bit but hey sure it makes cents
Svet thanks for that youtube - You Brits will spare no expense to protect Sheep fuckers
WOW I stopped watching at 2 mins in
Yikes that is one hell of a lot of money UK is spending just to protect some Brit Sheep farmers so they can have sheep to fuck instead of women.
Until recently the argument was UK wanted the islands for oil reserves but with oil prices continue to fall there is no money to be made. So its just some sheep farmers that need protection
Yep UK is so overflowing with value of Pound that has raised since Brexit vote - er my math may be off a bit but hey sure it makes cents
Svet thanks for that youtube - You Brits will spare no expense to protect Sheep fuckers
DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew replied with this 9 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,565
@787,544 (H)
No, I dont care what you or anyone on this board thinks about me. I just find it amazing that we got to the point where UN publishes official documentation on "replacement migration", not even trying to mask it as something else anymore. And you're all fine with it.
The amount of brainwashing is astonishing, they did a great job on that one.
No, I dont care what you or anyone on this board thinks about me. I just find it amazing that we got to the point where UN publishes official documentation on "replacement migration", not even trying to mask it as something else anymore. And you're all fine with it.
The amount of brainwashing is astonishing, they did a great job on that one.
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 3 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,567
you are all massive retards
Meta replied with this 9 years ago, 15 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,568
@787,562 (Syntax)
I do have to ask though: why the Falklands obsession? You're not British or Argentinian.
I do have to ask though: why the Falklands obsession? You're not British or Argentinian.
Svet !jzYkdX7lIw (OP) replied with this 9 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,570
@787,562 (Syntax)
You know, maybe if you were not so agressive I wouldn't think you were so butthurt but you actually come across as very childish. Feels good protecting the Queens clay.
You know, maybe if you were not so agressive I wouldn't think you were so butthurt but you actually come across as very childish. Feels good protecting the Queens clay.
Svet !jzYkdX7lIw (OP) double-posted this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,572
@787,568 (Meta)
I think it's a california thing. Liberal hippies upset over other countries while sitting on rightful Mexican land that was even native American land before that.
I think it's a california thing. Liberal hippies upset over other countries while sitting on rightful Mexican land that was even native American land before that.
Syntax replied with this 9 years ago, 49 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,573
@787,568 (Meta)
I have never been much of a fan of countries that Rape and Pillage. Taking land half a planet away just makes no cents to me
Yes indeed there are examples of USA doing just that.
USA needs to piss or get off the pot over places like Guam.
I have never been much of a fan of countries that Rape and Pillage. Taking land half a planet away just makes no cents to me
Yes indeed there are examples of USA doing just that.
USA needs to piss or get off the pot over places like Guam.
Svet !jzYkdX7lIw (OP) replied with this 9 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,574
@previous (Syntax)
> Taking land half a planet away just makes no cents to me
If more powerful countries didn't take land you wouldn't be living in Cardiff by the sea sea sea or swim in your ocean blue.
> Taking land half a planet away just makes no cents to me
If more powerful countries didn't take land you wouldn't be living in Cardiff by the sea sea sea or swim in your ocean blue.
Anonymous H replied with this 9 years ago, 7 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,580
@787,547 (Meta)
Yeah, again, very valid and understandable concerns. My problem is that every politician who runs with that as their focus seems required to make big unrealistic promises, have worrying ties to Russia, or just not have a professional attitude. I can't just can't put any faith in those guys.
@787,565 (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
I just Googled it. Here is how they explain it:
> United Nations projections indicate that over the next 50 years, the populations of virtually all countries of Europe as well as Japan will face population decline and population ageing. The new challenges of declining and ageing populations will require comprehensive reassessments of many established policies and programmes, including those relating to international migration.
So actually it's a part of a wider strategy to deal with an ageing population. Did you not know that?
Yeah, again, very valid and understandable concerns. My problem is that every politician who runs with that as their focus seems required to make big unrealistic promises, have worrying ties to Russia, or just not have a professional attitude. I can't just can't put any faith in those guys.
@787,565 (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
I just Googled it. Here is how they explain it:
> United Nations projections indicate that over the next 50 years, the populations of virtually all countries of Europe as well as Japan will face population decline and population ageing. The new challenges of declining and ageing populations will require comprehensive reassessments of many established policies and programmes, including those relating to international migration.
So actually it's a part of a wider strategy to deal with an ageing population. Did you not know that?
Syntax replied with this 9 years ago, 9 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,586
@787,574 (Svet !jzYkdX7lIw)
You seem to 4get. Portugal and Spain invaded wot is now USA proper. Brits ended up taxing Roots of USA something horrid so as you no we stopped drinking Tea and turned to Triple Espresso's. Planet Earth one day could b2day will take the bluff I live on and return it to below. Or one of North Korea new projectiles will go off course on way to Portland Oregon and hit Cardiff by the Sea.
I really dislike how my reply has not been so much so good but it will have2do
You seem to 4get. Portugal and Spain invaded wot is now USA proper. Brits ended up taxing Roots of USA something horrid so as you no we stopped drinking Tea and turned to Triple Espresso's. Planet Earth one day could b2day will take the bluff I live on and return it to below. Or one of North Korea new projectiles will go off course on way to Portland Oregon and hit Cardiff by the Sea.
I really dislike how my reply has not been so much so good but it will have2do
Anonymous I replied with this 9 years ago, 5 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,587
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 7 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,589
@787,565 (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
You have this really strange world view. You're so convinced you see the truth.
You have this really strange world view. You're so convinced you see the truth.
DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew replied with this 9 years ago, 8 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,590
@787,580 (H)
But why replacement migration? And why employ these tactics only in Europe and Japan (protip: there's a few other countries that have an aging population, not included in this plan)?
Why not create an environment that would increase the birth rates of the local population? Not to mention the specific situation of Japan, the last thing they need is more people, a shrinking of the population would benefit them as individuals... but it would be a hit to the global economy, and we cant let that happen...
But yeah, replacement migration is a grate plan.
But why replacement migration? And why employ these tactics only in Europe and Japan (protip: there's a few other countries that have an aging population, not included in this plan)?
Why not create an environment that would increase the birth rates of the local population? Not to mention the specific situation of Japan, the last thing they need is more people, a shrinking of the population would benefit them as individuals... but it would be a hit to the global economy, and we cant let that happen...
But yeah, replacement migration is a grate plan.
Anonymous H replied with this 9 years ago, 10 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,591
@787,587 (I)
Certainly, and perhaps the current immigration could be better. But the term is not the sinister anti-native policy DasSheeple was implying it was.
Certainly, and perhaps the current immigration could be better. But the term is not the sinister anti-native policy DasSheeple was implying it was.
DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew replied with this 9 years ago, 3 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,595
Anonymous H replied with this 9 years ago, 7 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,602
@787,590 (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
> And why employ these tactics only in Europe and Japan (protip: there's a few other countries that have an aging population, not included in this plan)?
Okay then, what are these other countries that also need the help just as badly? And why are you thinking that these other counties are supposedly being ignored?
> Why not create an environment that would increase the birth rates of the local population?
Who says they aren't doing that too? Surely, the best way to address it is multiple strategies?
> And why employ these tactics only in Europe and Japan (protip: there's a few other countries that have an aging population, not included in this plan)?
Okay then, what are these other countries that also need the help just as badly? And why are you thinking that these other counties are supposedly being ignored?
> Why not create an environment that would increase the birth rates of the local population?
Who says they aren't doing that too? Surely, the best way to address it is multiple strategies?
DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew replied with this 9 years ago, 9 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,605
@previous (H)
I'm sure you can find the first part with a simple google search. As for the second, please find a UN paper on increasing the birth rates of European/Japanese people, I cant find a single one...
I'm sure you can find the first part with a simple google search. As for the second, please find a UN paper on increasing the birth rates of European/Japanese people, I cant find a single one...
Anonymous H replied with this 9 years ago, 5 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,606
@previous (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
I can see why the UN is involved in something international like immigration, but birth rates seem like a matter for the respective governments of those countries.
I can see why the UN is involved in something international like immigration, but birth rates seem like a matter for the respective governments of those countries.
Anonymous J replied with this 9 years ago, 3 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,609
Anonymous H replied with this 9 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,611
Actually, there is a UN thing about birth rates. They published a big report about it in 2015. It looks like an interesting read:
http://www.un.org/en/development/desa/population/publications/pdf/fertility/world-fertility-patterns-2015.pdf
@previous (J)
See, I have heard all the hype about Japanese birth rates, but I've also read some analysis claiming it's not really much different to the birth rate in other developed nations. So I'm unsure if that's just the usual media hype around Japan.
http://www.un.org/en/development/desa/population/publications/pdf/fertility/world-fertility-patterns-2015.pdf
@previous (J)
See, I have heard all the hype about Japanese birth rates, but I've also read some analysis claiming it's not really much different to the birth rate in other developed nations. So I'm unsure if that's just the usual media hype around Japan.
DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew replied with this 9 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,612
@787,606 (H)
By that logic, the age profile and population within a country should be a matter of the respective governments of those countries. If the wanted to sort out a "population problem" with "replacement migration" it would be their policy, not UNs.
UNs matter would be if a shitload of immigrants were coming on their own, to intervene and see why they are leaving their countries and what can be done about it. Not use thos people to replace whole populations.
We're getting somewhere I see...
By that logic, the age profile and population within a country should be a matter of the respective governments of those countries. If the wanted to sort out a "population problem" with "replacement migration" it would be their policy, not UNs.
UNs matter would be if a shitload of immigrants were coming on their own, to intervene and see why they are leaving their countries and what can be done about it. Not use thos people to replace whole populations.
We're getting somewhere I see...
DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew double-posted this 9 years ago, 4 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,615
@787,611 (H)
That is just a statistics sheet stating facts. Not a plan on increasing birth rates in Europe/Japan to levels where they would at least replace themselves.
The "replacement migration" paper on the other hand is a full blown problem/solution type of paper with clear goals.
Try again, thanks.
That is just a statistics sheet stating facts. Not a plan on increasing birth rates in Europe/Japan to levels where they would at least replace themselves.
The "replacement migration" paper on the other hand is a full blown problem/solution type of paper with clear goals.
Try again, thanks.
Anonymous H replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,617
@787,612 (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
Ugh. No. As I already said, they are trying to supplement falling and ageing populations. They are not "replacing whole populations".
Tell me this: why, in your opinion, is the UN supporting these policies if it is not a sincere attempt to assist with population decline?
Ugh. No. As I already said, they are trying to supplement falling and ageing populations. They are not "replacing whole populations".
Tell me this: why, in your opinion, is the UN supporting these policies if it is not a sincere attempt to assist with population decline?
Meta replied with this 9 years ago, 8 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,621
@787,580 (H)
> Yeah, again, very valid and understandable concerns. My problem is that every politician who runs with that as their focus seems required to make big unrealistic promises
From my experience that's true of all politicians - left, right, and center.
> have worrying ties to Russia
I really do think future generations will see our Russophobia as something akin to McCarthyism.
> or just not have a professional attitude. I can't just can't put any faith in those guys.
A lot of that is I think because they're appealing to the lower classes. The upper classes are not negatively impacted by immigration and benefit from it. The kinds of signalling that would appeal to upper class voters would turn off the working class voters.
These are people who have lost faith in the system so when a Trump or Farage comes along the fact that they're "unprofessional" actually works in their favor.
Also opposition to immigration is shouted down as "racist" and while there are indeed people who oppose immigration from Central and South America out of racism I think 90% of it is economic, not racial. But the fact that any opposition to immigration gets shouted down as racist means the more genteel and sophisticated politicians shy away from it.
> Yeah, again, very valid and understandable concerns. My problem is that every politician who runs with that as their focus seems required to make big unrealistic promises
From my experience that's true of all politicians - left, right, and center.
> have worrying ties to Russia
I really do think future generations will see our Russophobia as something akin to McCarthyism.
> or just not have a professional attitude. I can't just can't put any faith in those guys.
A lot of that is I think because they're appealing to the lower classes. The upper classes are not negatively impacted by immigration and benefit from it. The kinds of signalling that would appeal to upper class voters would turn off the working class voters.
These are people who have lost faith in the system so when a Trump or Farage comes along the fact that they're "unprofessional" actually works in their favor.
Also opposition to immigration is shouted down as "racist" and while there are indeed people who oppose immigration from Central and South America out of racism I think 90% of it is economic, not racial. But the fact that any opposition to immigration gets shouted down as racist means the more genteel and sophisticated politicians shy away from it.
DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew replied with this 9 years ago, 4 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,622
@787,617 (H)
Ugh. No. As even you could see, the only way they "are trying to supplement falling and ageing populations" is by replacing them. What do you think if migrants breed in Europe they will somehow magically have white native babies because of the soil they were having sex on?
Please don't...
Ugh. No. As even you could see, the only way they "are trying to supplement falling and ageing populations" is by replacing them. What do you think if migrants breed in Europe they will somehow magically have white native babies because of the soil they were having sex on?
Please don't...
Green !BEERiVqJJw joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 22 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,638
Good, it will boost the economy.
Svet !jzYkdX7lIw (OP) replied with this 9 years ago, 6 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,641
@previous (Green !BEERiVqJJw)
I guess so. Paying out for an extra 1500 people means more govenment borrowing and higher taxes.
I guess so. Paying out for an extra 1500 people means more govenment borrowing and higher taxes.
Anonymous K replied with this 9 years ago, 46 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,650
Anonymous H replied with this 9 years ago, 25 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,660
@787,622 (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
Please answer my question. If it isn't a sincere attempt to address population decline, then why is the UN doing it?
@787,621 (Meta)
> From my experience that's true of all politicians - left, right, and center.
Of course, politicians from all over the spectrum will make promises they don't end up keeping. That's part and parcel. But what I'm saying is that it seems the far-right guys are very much getting more votes, and sometimes winning, because of their particularly big and ultimately unfeasible promises. Two big examples were "we'll ban the Muslims!" and "and extra £350 million per week for the NHS!". Both of those promises were made with much confidence at the time, but after they won electoral victories things turned out to be not so simple.
> I really do think future generations will see our Russophobia as something akin to McCarthyism.
Well, Russia has done quite a few things to provoke the west's current wariness of them.
But even putting that aside, I'm not comfortable with would-be or actual democratic leaders making friendly overtures to such an authoritarian and influential leader.
> These are people who have lost faith in the system so when a Trump or Farage comes along the fact that they're "unprofessional" actually works in their favor.
Yep, you're right. Their unconventional manners and outsider statuses are precisely why they've done so well lately. But it seems to me that these bombastic, maverick personas are good at winning elections, but not so suited as heads of state.
> Also opposition to immigration is shouted down as "racist" and while there are indeed people who oppose immigration from Central and South America out of racism I think 90% of it is economic, not racial.
Yeah, it's a tricky issue. I'm hoping it doesn't take anything too crazy to fix, and things'll just simmer down a bit later on. The current powder-keg atmosphere isn't good for anyone.
Please answer my question. If it isn't a sincere attempt to address population decline, then why is the UN doing it?
@787,621 (Meta)
> From my experience that's true of all politicians - left, right, and center.
Of course, politicians from all over the spectrum will make promises they don't end up keeping. That's part and parcel. But what I'm saying is that it seems the far-right guys are very much getting more votes, and sometimes winning, because of their particularly big and ultimately unfeasible promises. Two big examples were "we'll ban the Muslims!" and "and extra £350 million per week for the NHS!". Both of those promises were made with much confidence at the time, but after they won electoral victories things turned out to be not so simple.
> I really do think future generations will see our Russophobia as something akin to McCarthyism.
Well, Russia has done quite a few things to provoke the west's current wariness of them.
But even putting that aside, I'm not comfortable with would-be or actual democratic leaders making friendly overtures to such an authoritarian and influential leader.
> These are people who have lost faith in the system so when a Trump or Farage comes along the fact that they're "unprofessional" actually works in their favor.
Yep, you're right. Their unconventional manners and outsider statuses are precisely why they've done so well lately. But it seems to me that these bombastic, maverick personas are good at winning elections, but not so suited as heads of state.
> Also opposition to immigration is shouted down as "racist" and while there are indeed people who oppose immigration from Central and South America out of racism I think 90% of it is economic, not racial.
Yeah, it's a tricky issue. I'm hoping it doesn't take anything too crazy to fix, and things'll just simmer down a bit later on. The current powder-keg atmosphere isn't good for anyone.
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Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 9 hours later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,795
DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew replied with this 9 years ago, 5 hours later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,822
@787,650 (K)
It is a problem once you consider what that certain skin color brings.
It'll remove true diversity (green, blue, yellowish eyecolors, blonde/red hair...), it'll lower the IQ (on average, the black race scores 15ish points lower). And not to mention the culture. I traveled Europe north to south, east to west... and I've seen for example how mass immigration worked in Malmo. That city is in no way related to pure Swedish towns. No cozy Swedish traditions, no chill native mentality (I lived a few weeks in a city where people don't even lock their doors... what a great feeling living in such a community).
So to answer your question, yes, the skin color is a problem, but not in a way you'll try to imply.
@787,660 (H)
Lol, that's not how it works. We now established that there's a paper called "replacement migration". You are implying that it's just "one of many sincere attempts to address population decline". Since we can't find any other attempt to address population decline in Europe and Japan, the only conclusion to be drawn is, UN really wants to replace the native population with African immigrants. They aren't even masking it as "war refugee migration" etc. anymore and you're here convincing me they are just trying to help. Fake Anon, please...
It is a problem once you consider what that certain skin color brings.
It'll remove true diversity (green, blue, yellowish eyecolors, blonde/red hair...), it'll lower the IQ (on average, the black race scores 15ish points lower). And not to mention the culture. I traveled Europe north to south, east to west... and I've seen for example how mass immigration worked in Malmo. That city is in no way related to pure Swedish towns. No cozy Swedish traditions, no chill native mentality (I lived a few weeks in a city where people don't even lock their doors... what a great feeling living in such a community).
So to answer your question, yes, the skin color is a problem, but not in a way you'll try to imply.
@787,660 (H)
Lol, that's not how it works. We now established that there's a paper called "replacement migration". You are implying that it's just "one of many sincere attempts to address population decline". Since we can't find any other attempt to address population decline in Europe and Japan, the only conclusion to be drawn is, UN really wants to replace the native population with African immigrants. They aren't even masking it as "war refugee migration" etc. anymore and you're here convincing me they are just trying to help. Fake Anon, please...
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Anonymous H replied with this 9 years ago, 3 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,823
@previous (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
So give me a straight answer. Why do you think the UN wants to replace populations with African and Arab immigrants?
So give me a straight answer. Why do you think the UN wants to replace populations with African and Arab immigrants?
DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew replied with this 9 years ago, 8 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,824
@previous (H)
Well, for the sake of replacing according to UN documentation.
What kind of retarded question is this anyway? It's as if the UN published "Watering plants in the EU" where they describe how they use water to water plants, and you ask me "Why are they watering the plans?" and I respond with "To water the plants.", lol.
Well, for the sake of replacing according to UN documentation.
What kind of retarded question is this anyway? It's as if the UN published "Watering plants in the EU" where they describe how they use water to water plants, and you ask me "Why are they watering the plans?" and I respond with "To water the plants.", lol.
Anonymous K replied with this 9 years ago, 2 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,825
@787,822 (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
> the skin color is a problem, but not in a way you'll try to imply.
Well I'm trying to imply that you believe in race as a biological construct and also believe that the so-called white race is ethnically superior to all of the other so-called races, and as far as I can see that is how it is with you.
> the skin color is a problem, but not in a way you'll try to imply.
Well I'm trying to imply that you believe in race as a biological construct and also believe that the so-called white race is ethnically superior to all of the other so-called races, and as far as I can see that is how it is with you.
Anonymous H replied with this 9 years ago, 5 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,827
@787,824 (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
No... It's as if I am asking why they are watering the plants, and you are just responding that you think they are watering the plants.
I am going to put this to you as simply as I can- what is the UN's motivation for replacing native populations? How do they benefit from it?
No... It's as if I am asking why they are watering the plants, and you are just responding that you think they are watering the plants.
I am going to put this to you as simply as I can- what is the UN's motivation for replacing native populations? How do they benefit from it?
DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew replied with this 9 years ago, 3 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,830
@787,825 (K)
> Well I'm trying to imply that you believe in race as a biological construct
Oh boy, lol.
As for the rest of the post, black people are superior when it comes to masculinity (higher testosterone, building muscles easier), Asians score higher on IQ tests on average than whites... so no, I don't think the white race is superior to all of the other races in every aspect. But these are measurable, tangible things. Call those facts racist, call me racist for pointing them out, whatever you want. have fun buddy.
> Well I'm trying to imply that you believe in race as a biological construct
Oh boy, lol.
As for the rest of the post, black people are superior when it comes to masculinity (higher testosterone, building muscles easier), Asians score higher on IQ tests on average than whites... so no, I don't think the white race is superior to all of the other races in every aspect. But these are measurable, tangible things. Call those facts racist, call me racist for pointing them out, whatever you want. have fun buddy.
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Anonymous K replied with this 9 years ago, 2 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,832
@previous (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
What a pack of shite. Whatever, enjoy your delusions. Facts aren't racist but you're skewing them for a racist agenda, you absolute scumbag.
What a pack of shite. Whatever, enjoy your delusions. Facts aren't racist but you're skewing them for a racist agenda, you absolute scumbag.
DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,833
@787,827 (H)
You're asking the wrong person, I forgot my crystal ball in Poland. Try e-mailing the UN and ask them. Post a copy of the response ITT so we don't need to e-mail them all one by one. If you need help composing the e-mail, I'll gladly help.
You're asking the wrong person, I forgot my crystal ball in Poland. Try e-mailing the UN and ask them. Post a copy of the response ITT so we don't need to e-mail them all one by one. If you need help composing the e-mail, I'll gladly help.
DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew double-posted this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,834
Anonymous H replied with this 9 years ago, 7 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,836
@787,833 (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
Surely you have some idea of why they're doing it, if you're so certain that they are? I thought you had insight into these matters? Why the reluctance to answer?
Surely you have some idea of why they're doing it, if you're so certain that they are? I thought you had insight into these matters? Why the reluctance to answer?
DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew replied with this 9 years ago, 2 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,837
@previous (H)
I am certain that they are because they are admitting and publishing papers about it. Rest is implied by you.
I am certain that they are because they are admitting and publishing papers about it. Rest is implied by you.
Anonymous H replied with this 9 years ago, 11 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,839
@previous (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
Allright then... So, in summary, you are absolutely certain that the UN's replacement migration program has a sinister intent and is not meant for the benefit of the receiving countries. The UN's stated goals of using these immigrants to help address population decline must be lies. But despite this strong belief, you don't know why the UN is doing it or how they benefit.
See, this inclination towards conspiracy theories is another reason I just don't trust these far-right guys to actually offer positive, rational solutions. Now I know that DasSheeple is probably an outlier in terms of belief, and his racist and conspiracy theorist outlooks probably aren't very representative. All the same, the willingness of the far-right to use conspiracy theories (Trump lying about voter fraud, Brexiters saying the vote was rigged, etc.) do not paint a picture of an evidence-based ideology.
Allright then... So, in summary, you are absolutely certain that the UN's replacement migration program has a sinister intent and is not meant for the benefit of the receiving countries. The UN's stated goals of using these immigrants to help address population decline must be lies. But despite this strong belief, you don't know why the UN is doing it or how they benefit.
See, this inclination towards conspiracy theories is another reason I just don't trust these far-right guys to actually offer positive, rational solutions. Now I know that DasSheeple is probably an outlier in terms of belief, and his racist and conspiracy theorist outlooks probably aren't very representative. All the same, the willingness of the far-right to use conspiracy theories (Trump lying about voter fraud, Brexiters saying the vote was rigged, etc.) do not paint a picture of an evidence-based ideology.
brie !kGoudaMCFA replied with this 9 years ago, 6 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,841
@787,535 (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
You are thinking of the 144,000 and those are supposed to be virgin men, not engineers.
You are thinking of the 144,000 and those are supposed to be virgin men, not engineers.
DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew replied with this 9 years ago, 9 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,844
@787,839 (H)
You said that replacement migration is a sinister intent, not me. I just said the outcome is, in my opinion, a bad one. I would rather see (and we established, that's not gonna happen according to the non-existance of any UN papers published on that matter) the UN try to increase the total fertility rate up to 2+ (from current 1.2 children per woman) with the native population, than this replacement migration program.
You again, maid up claims and presented them as mine, then built your whole post around it. On top of that you put me in the far-right basket and attached an inclination to "conspiracy theories" onto me, stating that my ideology isn't evidence based.
And here we have a thread full of facts and statistics presented by me with 0 conspiracy theories, while on the other hand, you just post accusations and lies. (Anon K was even more funny, I'll give him that).
I guess I'll end it here, it has become silly arguing with you guys over these things.
You said that replacement migration is a sinister intent, not me. I just said the outcome is, in my opinion, a bad one. I would rather see (and we established, that's not gonna happen according to the non-existance of any UN papers published on that matter) the UN try to increase the total fertility rate up to 2+ (from current 1.2 children per woman) with the native population, than this replacement migration program.
You again, maid up claims and presented them as mine, then built your whole post around it. On top of that you put me in the far-right basket and attached an inclination to "conspiracy theories" onto me, stating that my ideology isn't evidence based.
And here we have a thread full of facts and statistics presented by me with 0 conspiracy theories, while on the other hand, you just post accusations and lies. (Anon K was even more funny, I'll give him that).
I guess I'll end it here, it has become silly arguing with you guys over these things.
brie !kGoudaMCFA replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,845
inb4 100 posts
Anonymous H replied with this 9 years ago, 5 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #787,847
@787,844 (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
> attached an inclination to "conspiracy theories" onto me
I'm sorry, you are right. Just because you're into climate change denial and holocaust denial doesn't mean you should just be arbitrarily labelled a conspiracy theorist.
> attached an inclination to "conspiracy theories" onto me
I'm sorry, you are right. Just because you're into climate change denial and holocaust denial doesn't mean you should just be arbitrarily labelled a conspiracy theorist.
DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew replied with this 9 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #787,849
@previous (H)
Again spreading lies. Climate change is happening, I am skeptic about how much it is man made/influenced by people.
Second, I am not denying the holocaust, I am just questioning the numbers (because they have been revised multiple times already) and I'd like more investigations in it, yet I am met with outrage and called anti-semitic. And here I thought truth wouldn't fear investigation... nice try tho.
Again spreading lies. Climate change is happening, I am skeptic about how much it is man made/influenced by people.
Second, I am not denying the holocaust, I am just questioning the numbers (because they have been revised multiple times already) and I'd like more investigations in it, yet I am met with outrage and called anti-semitic. And here I thought truth wouldn't fear investigation... nice try tho.
brie !kGoudaMCFA replied with this 9 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #787,850
@previous (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
Fantastic! There is no way this topic isn't getting at least 1000 replies now!
Fantastic! There is no way this topic isn't getting at least 1000 replies now!
Anonymous K replied with this 9 years ago, 17 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #787,851
@787,834 (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
If it makes you more comfortable to believe that. You are an utterly disgusting waste of air, though. Thankfully you're on the wrong side of history.
If it makes you more comfortable to believe that. You are an utterly disgusting waste of air, though. Thankfully you're on the wrong side of history.
DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew replied with this 9 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #787,852
@previous (K)
Thanks, but be careful with the last statement. I have a proven track record of predicting outcomes and using them to my advantage, while you're posting anonymously.
Thanks, but be careful with the last statement. I have a proven track record of predicting outcomes and using them to my advantage, while you're posting anonymously.
brie !kGoudaMCFA replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #787,853
Anonymous K replied with this 9 years ago, 11 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #787,856
DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew replied with this 9 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #787,858
@previous (K)
And I don't see why my man made climate skepticism, and pushing for more holocaust investigation have to do with anything posted ITT and why those lies got spread ITT as well.
I'm just playing by the rules set by Anon H and you... hate the game, not the player.
And I don't see why my man made climate skepticism, and pushing for more holocaust investigation have to do with anything posted ITT and why those lies got spread ITT as well.
I'm just playing by the rules set by Anon H and you... hate the game, not the player.
Syntax replied with this 9 years ago, 25 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #787,863
@787,641 (Svet !jzYkdX7lIw)
> I guess so. Paying out for an extra 1500 people means more govenment borrowing and higher taxes.
Yet you're totally ok with your people paying out huge amount of money and a full fucking Armada to protect a pimple point of land aka Falklands
> I guess so. Paying out for an extra 1500 people means more govenment borrowing and higher taxes.
Yet you're totally ok with your people paying out huge amount of money and a full fucking Armada to protect a pimple point of land aka Falklands
Svet !jzYkdX7lIw joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 35 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #787,866
Syntax replied with this 9 years ago, 12 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #787,867
@previous (Svet !jzYkdX7lIw)LOL
Look at this Map - Appears Brits turned tail and bugged out over just a few years. Now look at what is left. Postage stamp bits here and there equal to about wot a few random spots of Grease on paper holding Fish n Chips.
Say how is that bit of Scotland holding up after Brexit? I am concerned about wot Fyne Malt Whiskeys goin cost in future.
Anonymous K replied with this 9 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #787,899
@787,858 (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
Okay, I understand. Since you're coming off the worse in our little flame war here, you've decided to try to turn the tables on me by trying to get me to argue about how I'm good enough to argue with instead of what I was actually talking about, and then you're just going to try and smooth over the giant mountain of bullshit you typed by pretending that you're actually above the entire thing anyway, and you were all along so ha you lose. That's all you ever do, you're fooling nobody. You're still a disgusting waste of air, fuck off.
Okay, I understand. Since you're coming off the worse in our little flame war here, you've decided to try to turn the tables on me by trying to get me to argue about how I'm good enough to argue with instead of what I was actually talking about, and then you're just going to try and smooth over the giant mountain of bullshit you typed by pretending that you're actually above the entire thing anyway, and you were all along so ha you lose. That's all you ever do, you're fooling nobody. You're still a disgusting waste of air, fuck off.
Anonymous J replied with this 9 years ago, 14 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #787,906
@787,823 (H)
> So give me a straight answer. Why do you think the UN wants to replace populations with African and Arab immigrants?
@787,824 (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
> Well, for the sake of replacing according to UN documentation.
>
> What kind of retarded question is this anyway? It's as if the UN published "Watering plants in the EU" where they describe how they use water to water plants, and you ask me "Why are they watering the plans?" and I respond with "To water the plants.", lol.
lmao. oh boy
> So give me a straight answer. Why do you think the UN wants to replace populations with African and Arab immigrants?
@787,824 (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
> Well, for the sake of replacing according to UN documentation.
>
> What kind of retarded question is this anyway? It's as if the UN published "Watering plants in the EU" where they describe how they use water to water plants, and you ask me "Why are they watering the plans?" and I respond with "To water the plants.", lol.
lmao. oh boy
San Fransisco 14/88ers joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 55 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #787,949
Svet !jzYkdX7lIw replied with this 9 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #787,953
@787,867 (Syntax)
You know as much about the Scotland situation as I know about satellites 10 miles into space.
You know as much about the Scotland situation as I know about satellites 10 miles into space.