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Topic: Cooking meta-question.

Anonymous A started this discussion 15 years ago #6,223

Lets say that someone has a talent for cooking, but doesn't know many foods or preperation methods off by heart since nobody ever bothered teaching him how to do anything in the kitchen except turn the microwave on and boil the kettle which means that he had to teach himself everything, including using the oven and hob, so has to consult recipes whilst making something new to him that he doesn't know how to make, rewriting them to be short and a little vague so he is forced to experiment with the preparation instead of just doing what it says to do. However, despite the fact that he looks at a recipe, the final result is almost always good food.

Would you say that the person knows how to cook, or do you think they deserve berating in public when they say that they're alright at cooking because they don't know how to make kateh by rote?

Do you think that the fact that he doesn't know how to make kateh by rote means that this person is "full of shit" and "can't actually cook, then, can you?"
Poll option Votes Percentage Graph
You don't automatically know how to make kateh? You can't cook for shit. 2 20%
No, people shouldn't expect you to just somehow know every single recipe ever and say you can't say that you can cook until you do. 8 80%

swamplights !!V3J448+/B joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 40 minutes later[^] [v] #107,807

Well,he can probably cook some things. I suspect that he can grill and make eggs.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 15 minutes later, 56 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #107,811

@previous (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)

He is adept at cooking many things well, but he simply doesn't know many preparations without having to consult instructions when something is still pretty new to him.

swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 20 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #107,821

@previous (A)
Then he might be an okay cook. Have you been teaching him?

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 20 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #107,823

@previous (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)

When he needs to learn.

swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 31 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #107,832

@previous (A)
What have you taught him so far?

Syntax joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 9 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #107,835

> Kateh
> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
> Kateh also pronounced chata is a type of Caspian rice, which, unlike chelow, is a bit sticky and >does not have Taadig (the rice, bread or potato crust at the bottom, a traditional delicacy in >Iran), though it does form a crust on the bottom where the salt and oil collect. Generally, Kateh >needs half the cooking time of Chelow-style rice and has a denser flavor due to the addition of >butter or oil in the cooking process.
> Kateh is considered generally the most simple Iranian rice the ease and speed of cooking makes it >popular for casual dinners. It is also the traditional dish of Gilan and Mazandaran.


So like I had no other choice but to look up Kateh. Reminded me of the Iranian dish that DOES have that crust on the bottom - Great stuff - and the Chinese make a similar dish and the Crusty rice is more then just better. In fact any huge Asian market sells the Crust as a packaged item.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 21 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #107,841

@107,832 (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)

Anything he wants.

swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #107,858

@previous (A)
That's not very descriptive.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #107,904

@previous (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)

I can't make it more exact, lol.

You do realise that I'm talking about myself in 3rd person, right?

(Edited 43 seconds later.)

swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 20 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #107,917

@previous (A)
Oh, Okay. Well, what have you learned to cook so far?

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #107,922

@previous (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)

Well, quite a few things. But I have not memorised very many recipes, which apparently means I cannot cook.

Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #107,924

Where is Meta these days?

Flieflafloflapperirario joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 12 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #107,932

y so 3rd person

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #107,936

@previous (Flieflafloflapperirario)

i wanted to be passive agressive :(

Flieflafloflapperirario replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #107,938

@previous (A)
kk
well, you could join a cooking class

Ks !KansasxqvM joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 44 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #107,953

I have quite a few recipes I have to look at when cooking, because many different measurements and ingredients are many. I could usually wing it of course, but my recipes are fine tuned for maximum awesome. I don't even know what the fuck kateh by rote is, but I'm the best damn cook I know. Fuck em all.

I can't bake for shit, but I'm fine with that and I never learned because I don't eat sweets.

(Edited 1 minute later.)

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 36 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #107,976

@107,938 (Flieflafloflapperirario)

I don't need to join a cooking class. I'm naturally talented at it.

Flieflafloflapperirario replied with this 15 years ago, 55 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #108,014

@previous (A)
> implying you won't learn techniques in cooking class

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #108,083

@previous (Flieflafloflapperirario)

> implying I have a need to learn techniques
> implying I can't pick up a technique within 5 minutes
> implying that I need cooking class

Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #108,086

@previous (A)
You seem very arrogant.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #108,089

@previous (G)

Because I don't need to take a cooking class?

Flieflafloflapperirario replied with this 15 years ago, 8 hours later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #108,362

@108,083 (A)
If you don't want to learn how to cook stop whining about you being a good cook. You're not.

Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #108,382

@previous (Flieflafloflapperirario)

This, Jesus what a pointless thread.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 7 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #108,499

@108,362 (Flieflafloflapperirario)

When did I say I didn't want to learn how to cook

and did you even read this thread

(Edited 17 seconds later.)

Meta !PARAdoxiHw joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 12 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #108,505

@OP
That's like asking whether someone who can play sheet music and cover songs is a good musician. Someone who can follow a recipe and produce food can indeed be considered a good cook, just as someone who plays music others have composed can be considered a good musician. With practice you will commit more recipes to memory and perhaps even create your own.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #108,563

@previous (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)

So why did that fat bitch get so angry at me?

Flieflafloflapperirario replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #108,564

@previous (A)
what fat angry bitch

Flieflafloflapperirario double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #108,565

@108,499 (A)
see
@108,083 (A)

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #108,567

@previous (Flieflafloflapperirario)

I saw and still don't understand why not being willing to take a class means that I'm not willing to learn.

swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #108,570

@previous (A)
I kind of appreciate your stance. I wouldn't want to waste money on something I could learn for free.

Flieflafloflapperirario replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #108,571

@108,567 (A)
You also said 'implying I have a need to learn techniques for free'
@previous (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
i wasnt reffering to the cooking class part

swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #108,573

@previous (Flieflafloflapperirario)
Oh pardon. Which part were you referring to?

Flieflafloflapperirario replied with this 15 years ago, 40 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #108,574

@previous (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
'implying I have a need to learn techniques for free'

swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 13 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #108,579

@previous (Flieflafloflapperirario)
Oh, so you feel like you have no need to learn techniques at all?

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 14 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #108,593

@previous (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)

I already know enough cooking techniques to keep myself afloat. Why do I need to go out and figure out how to do things which I probably won't do, especially because. when it comes to the crunch, I can pick it up with a short demonstration via text/video/images anyway.

(Edited 28 seconds later.)

swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #108,596

@previous (A)
I guess if you're cool with it, it doesn't really matter.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 11 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #108,601

@previous (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)

I like winging it anyway. Learning froma textbook is boring! I prefer being thrown in the deep end.

swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #108,603

@previous (A)
Do you feel that way about most things?

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 39 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #108,617

@previous (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)

It depends on the situation.

Ks !KansasxqvM joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 24 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #108,625

General cooking is fairly simple and no cooking classes are needed to become great at it. Specialty cooking (baking, smoking etc) can be quite a bit more difficult and some sort of study would be need to become great.

Next time you see the chick who gave you shit, ask her if she knows a recipe for some super obscure dish, if she does not, tell her to choke on a bag of dicks.

Given the vast amount of info and videos on the net, spending money on cooking classes would be fucking retarded.

Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 17 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #108,912

Just buy a cookbook and try to memorize the recipes OP.
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