Topic: I hoor none of you Trump supporters have health problems.
The Witch Doctor !6W1Zpe4MCM started this discussion 9 years ago #62,109
lol
brie !kGoudaMCFA joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 46 seconds later[^] [v] #782,476
lol
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #782,478
Obamacare was a danged commie hippie plot anyway. Good riddance. Besides, this way, Trump can free up more money for The Wall The Fence!
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The Witch Doctor !6W1Zpe4MCM (OP) replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #782,479
Anonymous C replied with this 9 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #782,482
@previous (The Witch Doctor !6W1Zpe4MCM)
The poor shall accept our President'sjudgement whims, or else.
The poor shall accept our President's
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Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 6 minutes later, 12 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #782,485
Maybe with this extra cash, Matt, he can give you a better education. Your thread title ia fucked up.
Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 9 minutes later, 21 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #782,486
kook !!OPZbEQMT1 joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #782,492
I have health insurance
Sheila LaBoof joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #782,495
@782,478 (C)
> Obamacare was a danged commie hippie plot anyway. Good riddance. Besides, this way, Trump can free up more money forThe Wall The Fence!
not quite: it was a gift to the insurance companies, giving them more customers by the millions. the plan is sourced from The Heritage Foundation, and was the only fuckin thing that was able to get passed with the help of a handful of republicans at the time. the only suggestion from the critics was tort reform. yes, tort reform: somehow making it harder to sue a doctor would lead to everyone being covered for health care.
That wall better be fuckin awesome with lasers and shit
> Obamacare was a danged commie hippie plot anyway. Good riddance. Besides, this way, Trump can free up more money for
not quite: it was a gift to the insurance companies, giving them more customers by the millions. the plan is sourced from The Heritage Foundation, and was the only fuckin thing that was able to get passed with the help of a handful of republicans at the time. the only suggestion from the critics was tort reform. yes, tort reform: somehow making it harder to sue a doctor would lead to everyone being covered for health care.
That wall better be fuckin awesome with lasers and shit
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Meta !faggot joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #782,497
> I hoor
Common Core ?
Common Core ?
kook !!OPZbEQMT1 replied with this 9 years ago, 44 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #782,505
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 15 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #782,510
Being poor is a preexisting condition.
pussymaster !DMk4c3ty22 joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 37 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #782,511
There is literally no known relation between having health insurance and dying from health related issues. The countries with the highest mortality rates all have universal healthcare or mandatory insurance.
You can say that non lethal conditions are less treatable when one doesn't have health insurance, and you're right, however in countries with universal healthcare diseases are prioritized and you would likely be subject to a long waiting time to get whatever treatment you need.
Also, pussy.
You can say that non lethal conditions are less treatable when one doesn't have health insurance, and you're right, however in countries with universal healthcare diseases are prioritized and you would likely be subject to a long waiting time to get whatever treatment you need.
Also, pussy.
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Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #782,513
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 11 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #782,517
@782,511 (pussymaster !DMk4c3ty22)
Lowest Death Rates Worldwide
Rank Country Death Rate (1 per 1,000)
1 Qatar 1.53 %
2 United Arab Emirates 1.97 %
3 Kuwait 2.18 %
4 Bahrain 2.69 %
Qatar's Leading Position in Low Death Rates
Qatar has the absolute lowest death rate in the world, with 1.53 deaths per 1000 people annually. One of the major reasons for its low number of annual deaths is its improved health care system. It has one of the best and most widely recognized health care systems and, as compared to other nations, Qatar’s health sector is renowned for its technologically advanced medical facilities and the offering of the best of patient care. With a population of 2,155,446 (2014 estimates), the country’s affluence has enabled the provision of medical care to most of its citizens.
Kuwait's Medical Advancements
According to international publications including the World Resource Institute, Kuwait had one of the lowest death rates globally, at 1.9 per 1000 people annually. The low death rates in Kuwait have been attributed to its high standards for medical services provided, high health awareness among citizens, a workforce of qualified medical practitioners, and the latest of technology in medical devices. However, according to the CIA report in 2014, the picture has taken a negative trajectory, as the death rate in Kuwait has increased to 2.18, with possible future increases yet to come.
Bahrain's Fluctuations
Since official national death registrations began in Bahrain in 1990, the country has continually registered low mortality rates. The death rate in Bahrain was 1.9 deaths per 1000 people in 2011, also placing it among the lowest in the world, even lower than the death rates seen in Singapore, Libya, Oman, and Brunei. In 2010, the population of Bahrain stood at 1,234,571, which is even smaller than that of Qatar. The government of Bahrain provides for the majority of its citizens’ health services, which is highly subsidized, and this serves as the primary explanation behind the low death rate in Bahrain. Nonetheless, the death rate had increased to 2.69 by 2014, a discouraging trend reported by the CIA World Fact Book.
Lowest Death Rates Worldwide
Rank Country Death Rate (1 per 1,000)
1 Qatar 1.53 %
2 United Arab Emirates 1.97 %
3 Kuwait 2.18 %
4 Bahrain 2.69 %
Qatar's Leading Position in Low Death Rates
Qatar has the absolute lowest death rate in the world, with 1.53 deaths per 1000 people annually. One of the major reasons for its low number of annual deaths is its improved health care system. It has one of the best and most widely recognized health care systems and, as compared to other nations, Qatar’s health sector is renowned for its technologically advanced medical facilities and the offering of the best of patient care. With a population of 2,155,446 (2014 estimates), the country’s affluence has enabled the provision of medical care to most of its citizens.
Kuwait's Medical Advancements
According to international publications including the World Resource Institute, Kuwait had one of the lowest death rates globally, at 1.9 per 1000 people annually. The low death rates in Kuwait have been attributed to its high standards for medical services provided, high health awareness among citizens, a workforce of qualified medical practitioners, and the latest of technology in medical devices. However, according to the CIA report in 2014, the picture has taken a negative trajectory, as the death rate in Kuwait has increased to 2.18, with possible future increases yet to come.
Bahrain's Fluctuations
Since official national death registrations began in Bahrain in 1990, the country has continually registered low mortality rates. The death rate in Bahrain was 1.9 deaths per 1000 people in 2011, also placing it among the lowest in the world, even lower than the death rates seen in Singapore, Libya, Oman, and Brunei. In 2010, the population of Bahrain stood at 1,234,571, which is even smaller than that of Qatar. The government of Bahrain provides for the majority of its citizens’ health services, which is highly subsidized, and this serves as the primary explanation behind the low death rate in Bahrain. Nonetheless, the death rate had increased to 2.69 by 2014, a discouraging trend reported by the CIA World Fact Book.
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pussymaster !DMk4c3ty22 replied with this 9 years ago, 13 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #782,518
Mortality rate by country. Look up countries on that list's healthcare systems.
https://www.indexmundi.com/g/r.aspx?v=26&t=20
Premature death separate from insurance
http://healthblog.ncpa.org/does-lack-of-insurance-cause-premature-death-probably-not/
Admittedly there is some debate here, and Harvard out a number of 45k which mind you is less than a fraction of a percent of the population. My guess, honestly, would be that people who get insurance probably lead safer lives overall, and therefore are going to be more prone to longevity.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/06/01/health/american-death-rate-rises-for-first-time-in-a-decade.html
The mortality rate has risen since the ACA according to the new York Times. Sorry for Mobile link.
More about the faults of universal healthcare
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/855271
https://www.indexmundi.com/g/r.aspx?v=26&t=20
Premature death separate from insurance
http://healthblog.ncpa.org/does-lack-of-insurance-cause-premature-death-probably-not/
Admittedly there is some debate here, and Harvard out a number of 45k which mind you is less than a fraction of a percent of the population. My guess, honestly, would be that people who get insurance probably lead safer lives overall, and therefore are going to be more prone to longevity.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/06/01/health/american-death-rate-rises-for-first-time-in-a-decade.html
The mortality rate has risen since the ACA according to the new York Times. Sorry for Mobile link.
More about the faults of universal healthcare
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/855271
pussymaster !DMk4c3ty22 double-posted this 9 years ago, 5 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #782,519
@782,517 (L)
Right and I just showed you that the top 10 countries with the highest mortality rates also have universal health care. Guaranteed coverage on paper and actual care, and quality of care are two entirely different things. Every country you showed me has a population of less than 5 million people compare that to the population of 321 million in the US. You aren't comparing like items.
Right and I just showed you that the top 10 countries with the highest mortality rates also have universal health care. Guaranteed coverage on paper and actual care, and quality of care are two entirely different things. Every country you showed me has a population of less than 5 million people compare that to the population of 321 million in the US. You aren't comparing like items.
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 9 years ago, 14 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #782,524
@previous (pussymaster !DMk4c3ty22)
> Right and I just showed you that the top 10 countries with the highest mortality rates also have universal health care. Guaranteed coverage on paper and actual care, and quality of care are two entirely different things. Every country you showed me has a population of less than 5 million people compare that to the population of 321 million in the US. You aren't comparing like items.
you're trying too hard here, why is that
> Right and I just showed you that the top 10 countries with the highest mortality rates also have universal health care. Guaranteed coverage on paper and actual care, and quality of care are two entirely different things. Every country you showed me has a population of less than 5 million people compare that to the population of 321 million in the US. You aren't comparing like items.
you're trying too hard here, why is that
pussymaster !DMk4c3ty22 replied with this 9 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #782,526
@previous (Sheila LaBoof)
Because liberal artists are spazzing out about Trump literally killing people, and I am sick/tired of it.
Because liberal artists are spazzing out about Trump literally killing people, and I am sick/tired of it.
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 9 years ago, 6 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #782,529
@previous (pussymaster !DMk4c3ty22)
where are you spending you time where you heere such stuff
do you live in a loft with beatniks or soemthing
regardless, the non-universality of health care is shameful
where are you spending you time where you heere such stuff
do you live in a loft with beatniks or soemthing
regardless, the non-universality of health care is shameful
Anonymous C replied with this 9 years ago, 17 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #782,530
@782,526 (pussymaster !DMk4c3ty22)
Get used to it. People aren't going to stop pointing out Trump's bad policies.
Get used to it. People aren't going to stop pointing out Trump's bad policies.
pussymaster !DMk4c3ty22 replied with this 9 years ago, 10 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #782,532
@782,529 (Sheila LaBoof)
Health care isn't a right, you don't have the right to other people's skills and resources.
Health care isn't a right, you don't have the right to other people's skills and resources.
Green !BEERiVqJJw joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 23 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #782,538
@OP
You're an idiot.
You're an idiot.
Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 18 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #782,540
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SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!¡!;
NOBODY WANTS ENTITLMENTS 101 with Billary and all that bullshit..
deal with it you goddamn virgin worm...Trump is the man and you better get used to it and quit whining like a bitch.
SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!¡!;
NOBODY WANTS ENTITLMENTS 101 with Billary and all that bullshit..
deal with it you goddamn virgin worm...Trump is the man and you better get used to it and quit whining like a bitch.
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pussymaster !DMk4c3ty22 replied with this 9 years ago, 53 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #782,545
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #782,546
@782,532 (pussymaster !DMk4c3ty22)
Except all the times you do, like when the Constitution guarantees an attorney for you, and a jury of your peers. Not to mention the distinction between universal healthcare INSURANCE and universal healthcare.
Except all the times you do, like when the Constitution guarantees an attorney for you, and a jury of your peers. Not to mention the distinction between universal healthcare INSURANCE and universal healthcare.
Green !BEERiVqJJw replied with this 9 years ago, 10 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #782,547
pussymaster !DMk4c3ty22 replied with this 9 years ago, 1 hour later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #782,568
@782,546 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Well, that's pertaining to things related to government action. Also, healthcare is no way set out in the constitution which makes healthcare a state thing. If California for example wants to have a single payer healthcare system then I see no reason why they shouldn't be able to give it a go.
Well, that's pertaining to things related to government action. Also, healthcare is no way set out in the constitution which makes healthcare a state thing. If California for example wants to have a single payer healthcare system then I see no reason why they shouldn't be able to give it a go.
pussymaster !DMk4c3ty22 double-posted this 9 years ago, 18 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #782,569
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 9 years ago, 1 hour later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #782,579
@782,532 (pussymaster !DMk4c3ty22)
instead of nerding out with your philosophical shit concerning concepts of what is a right or not, I don't give a shit, just tell me where you keep hearing stuff that pisses you off that you have to bitch about it here instead of where you actually here it
instead of nerding out with your philosophical shit concerning concepts of what is a right or not, I don't give a shit, just tell me where you keep hearing stuff that pisses you off that you have to bitch about it here instead of where you actually here it
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Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 9 years ago, 1 hour later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #782,591
@782,568 (pussymaster !DMk4c3ty22)
The internet is also not set out in the constitution, but that is regulated federally, as are car safety standards and commodities trading and so on and so on.
The internet is also not set out in the constitution, but that is regulated federally, as are car safety standards and commodities trading and so on and so on.
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pussymaster !DMk4c3ty22 replied with this 9 years ago, 11 hours later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #782,655
@782,579 (Sheila LaBoof)
Well, obviously I also heard it here because I'm replying to this post.
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Just because the government already does things I don't like doesn't mean it should start doing more things I don't like.
Well, obviously I also heard it here because I'm replying to this post.
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Just because the government already does things I don't like doesn't mean it should start doing more things I don't like.
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 9 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #782,677
@previous (pussymaster !DMk4c3ty22)
> Well, obviously I also heard it here because I'm replying to this post.
At this site? No, that's not right. There's been far more threads, to the point of spamming, in the other direction. Apparently some were removed because it was getting overboard.
> Well, obviously I also heard it here because I'm replying to this post.
At this site? No, that's not right. There's been far more threads, to the point of spamming, in the other direction. Apparently some were removed because it was getting overboard.
Anonymous P joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 15 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #782,681
@782,519 (pussymaster !DMk4c3ty22)
> Right and I just showed you that the top 10 countries with the highest mortality rates also have universal health care. Guaranteed coverage on paper and actual care, and quality of care are two entirely different things. Every country you showed me has a population of less than 5 million people compare that to the population of 321 million in the US. You aren't comparing like items.
you're being a huge idiot lol
> Right and I just showed you that the top 10 countries with the highest mortality rates also have universal health care. Guaranteed coverage on paper and actual care, and quality of care are two entirely different things. Every country you showed me has a population of less than 5 million people compare that to the population of 321 million in the US. You aren't comparing like items.
you're being a huge idiot lol
Anonymous P double-posted this 9 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #782,682
@782,532 (pussymaster !DMk4c3ty22)
> Health care isn't a right, you don't have the right to other people's skills and resources.
lmao. yeah
doctors are TIRED of treating people. ther re's just too many!
> Health care isn't a right, you don't have the right to other people's skills and resources.
lmao. yeah
doctors are TIRED of treating people. ther re's just too many!
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