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Meta !faggot started this discussion 9 years ago#61,794
I need help with sleep. I often have difficulty "letting go" mentally and falling asleep. I've tried a bunch of hypnosis MP3s and I just can't feel anything from it. I lie down in bed, relaxed with my eyes closed and listen but nothing happens.
What's the deal with hypnosis? Is it something that actually works or is it like a placebo thing where it works if you think it does?
i once made a shitpost about it ... perhaps there is something you could learn, although not very much
mordor !n9PP8q5SP. double-posted this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#779,703
perhaps commercial material is really to soft
mordor !n9PP8q5SP. triple-posted this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#779,704
zen, peace, yoga and buddhism ... and practicing peace as a religion, just suggesting
mordor !n9PP8q5SP. quadruple-posted this 9 years ago, 58 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#779,705
meditation, chanting ... hope you find something
Meta !faggot (OP) replied with this 9 years ago, 12 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#779,706
@779,702 (mordor !n9PP8q5SP.)
I watched the video of the pastor getting attacked during church and it didn't hypnotize me one bit.
mordor !n9PP8q5SP. replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#779,707
lol,it was a shitpost, but he was busy hypnotising, with his hands, someone did not accept the program lol
mordor !n9PP8q5SP. double-posted this 9 years ago, 51 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#779,708
read the whole topic, that reply wwas kind a in context with previous material, like said it was a shitpost
Meta !faggot (OP) replied with this 9 years ago, 29 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#779,710
@779,704 (mordor !n9PP8q5SP.) > zen, peace, yoga and buddhism ... and practicing peace as a religion, just suggesting
I've tried Buddhism but it didn't help me sleep. I want something that turns my brain off.
mordor !n9PP8q5SP. replied with this 9 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#779,711
> > Take your insulin and you'll be lights out in no time, fat boy. > > u fckinor idot
Take your insulin and you'll calm down in no time, fat boy.
Meta !faggot (OP) replied with this 9 years ago, 7 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#779,736
@779,714 (The Witch Doctor !6W1Zpe4MCM)
I've considered medication but I don't want something where I get hooked on it or experience weird side effects like Ambien sleepwalking.
I don't want to be dependent on pills to function.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#779,741
@previous (Meta !faggot)
Trazodone is pretty much effect-free
Meta !faggot (OP) replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#779,742
@previous (F)
Yeah but I'm worried this going to be one of those deals where I end up being hooked on it and unable to function without it.
Anonymous F replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#779,743
@previous (Meta !faggot)
I do not think it is addictive.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#779,744
MY DICK IS A DICK TIVE
kook !!OPZbEQMT1 joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 4 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#779,745
Have you tried asmr?
kook !!OPZbEQMT1 double-posted this 9 years ago, 28 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#779,746
@779,746 (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
I tried with up to 9mg and it made my dreams more vivid but didn't help me fall asleep really. I want to turn my brain off. Large quantities of alcohol can help me do this but it's bad for my health in the long run. Given I already drink too much I don't want to get into anything pharmaceutical that could be addictive or cause dependency.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 9 years ago, 4 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#779,753
@779,749 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Ok this isnt my topic. Im sorry meta.
Meta !faggot (OP) replied with this 9 years ago, 6 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#779,757
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Could you record an mp3 of you explaining the entire MtG rules?
Asking for a friend.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#779,760
Meta !faggot (OP) replied with this 9 years ago, 24 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#779,778
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Dude I think I had an ASMR! I felt like a weird tingly sensation and deep relaxation.
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Anonymous D replied with this 9 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#779,780
@previous (Meta !faggot)
It's called being a faggot. Get over it.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 9 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#779,784
@779,778 (Meta !faggot)
Im pretty sure thats just latent homosexuality like @previous (D)
pointed out
Meta !faggot (OP) replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#779,786
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Maybe if you didn't say "fuck me" a dozen times we wouldn't have this problem ???
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 9 years ago, 53 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#779,788
@previous (Meta !faggot)
I was inviting any women here to my apartment. Thanks.
The Witch Doctor !6W1Zpe4MCM replied with this 9 years ago, 42 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#779,790
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
... for a Klondike bar?
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#779,792
@previous (The Witch Doctor !6W1Zpe4MCM)
Also vaginal sex.
squeegee joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 18 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#779,798
oh, you need to try my lifestyle. it's great for insomnia. first of all i hate sleeping unless i'm doing it. so i'll stay up most of the night refusing to go to bed and then not want to wake up in the morning to drag myself out of bed. but since i do i end up physically exhausted at some point and crash really hard for like an entire evening and night after work and then i'm reset again. but that's all part of how it works. you'll be lucky to get 8 hours of sleep every couple of weeks or so, but you'll have fuck loads of extra free time to do all kinds of stuff.
so you gotta start out by doing shit like drinking redbull instead of beer after 9 o'clock. i mean it's fine to drink beer or liquor if you want, and i encourage dope smoking too, but definitely save most of your energy drinks and coffee and stuff for bedtime hours. plan to be staying up most nights till 4, maybe 5 o'clock. it helps to have insomnia, but if you do get tired just drink a redbull. just don't go to sleep. stay up all night that first night if you have too. if you do go to sleep though, don't sleep more than 5 hours. 6 tops. 4 is optimal most nights.
get up early and don't punk out and take a nap during the day. it can be tempting, but don't even lay down to doze for a bit. drink a fucking redbull and stay awake and get shit done. then do the same thing the next night. aim for at the earliest 4am. don't even fucking try going to sleep before then. you'll just regret it if you do. take up a hobby if you have to, but keep the hours of like 9pm to 4am as "meta's personal doing the fuck what i want time" and do your fucking thing, dude. and don't punk out and go to sleep like a bitch. stay the fuck up. stay up till 5. but, however late you stay up just be sure you don't sleep more than like 4 or 5 hours. get the fuck up. same time every day. and don't bitch out and take a nap somewhere. just power through it, drink your red bull and get shit done. cause in the evening you got even more shit to do.
just keep it up. next night. do it again. as late as you can. force yourself to stay awake. if you gotta bitch out at 2 and hit the sack, you're a punk. but it's fine. you can sleep all day sunday if you want, but yeah, bitch out and go to bed early if you need to. but try not to, just stay awake.
so, don't think you're going to get a lot of sleep with my life style, but it's not like you're getting a lot of sleep with insomnia either, but one thing you won't do is lay in bed for hours on end not sleeping. and as soon as you finally do let your head hit the pillow it'll be because you're basically passing out. you'll get some really good deep sleeps too, so have a really pretty good alarm. oh yeah, and occasionally you'll crash for like 12 hours plus, you'll know it when you'll need to do it and i recommend going ahead and just giving in at that point and going to bed at like 7pm. just sleep it off.
hope this helps
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cccuuunnttt !yDoooooooo joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 5 hours later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#779,816
chili dog !!81dzJNNYL joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 2 hours later, 17 hours after the original post[^][v]#779,858
@779,714 (The Witch Doctor !6W1Zpe4MCM)
i've got a friend who took trazodone for a few months and has been utterly fucked up since
that's quite rare i assume but
it's not risk-free
@OP
have you tried meditation?
just like
focussing on your breath and clearing your head
i find it helps me
Meta (OP) replied with this 9 years ago, 1 hour later, 19 hours after the original post[^][v]#779,891
@779,823 (Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx)
Surprisingly just posting topics and replies and sending PMs. It's very frustrating though because all of the words keep changing when I read them.
@779,816 (cccuuunnttt !yDoooooooo) > i don't think being "effect free" is a positive thing in a medication
He said the same thing about benzos too ?
@previous (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
Yeah it's very relaxing but I still have difficulty letting go of consciousness.
@779,798 (squeegee)
I did that as a teenager! I think it permanently damaged my internal clock.
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Anonymous O joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 6 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^][v]#779,892
Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 9 years ago, 21 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^][v]#779,895
@779,891 (Meta)
I've heard that writing in dreams changing when you look at it again is common.
Has anything of note happened in Dream Minichan, that you recall?
chili dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 9 years ago, 59 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^][v]#779,906
@779,891 (Meta)
unfortunately i have the opposite problem, where I sleep at a moment's notice for 14 hours. that's why there's amphetamine!
Meta (OP) replied with this 9 years ago, 6 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#779,976
@779,895 (Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx)
Usually not.
I also like to browse on my tablet in bed before sleep. Sometimes I'll have a hypnagogic hallucination of being on my tablet, and if I hit it just right I can actually surf the web in the dream world for a few minutes before either waking back up or falling fully asleep.
@previous (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL) > sleep at a moment's notice for 14 hours
How do you do that?
chili dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 9 years ago, 24 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#779,991
@previous (Meta)
i don't know but i'm about ready to do it right now
but i don't want to
Anonymous P joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 7 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#780,046
Anonymous Q joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 34 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#780,066
@previous (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
Just what does this Doctor say in that regard..
chili dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 9 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#780,067
@previous (Q)
only years of getting blood tests and trying different (less risky) medication :)
you know, the usual
i've only been on
prozac
effexor
wellbutrin
zoloft
abilify
clonazepam
seroquel
latuda
and finally adderall
but you would know better, wouldn't you?
Anonymous Q replied with this 9 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#780,076
@previous (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
How the fuck does the thought process of needing shit like cloneazapam...Seroquel and Prozac wind up at Adderall...You can't get from there to here...Logically..
chili dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 9 years ago, 24 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#780,078
@previous (Q)
you have no understanding of psychiatry do you
prozac: major depressive disorder, panic disorder
effexor: depression, general anxiety disorder, panic disorder
wellbutrin: clinical depression
zoloft: major depression, panic disorder, social anxiety disorder
abilify: major depression
clonazepam: anxiety disorder, panic disorder
seroquel: major depressive disorder
latuda: depressive episodes
adderall: treatment-resistant depression, social anxiety
cipralex: depression, anxiety disorder (forgot i took that)
do you see a theme here?
3 things:
- depression
- anxiety
- inability to wake up or stay awake
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Anonymous Q replied with this 9 years ago, 19 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#780,083
@previous (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
Wow...If I could get about a quarter of that I could easily do without the alcohol..
chili dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 9 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#780,084
@previous (Q)
oh yeah SSRIs are such a fun time i get so high off them lol
sometimes i crush them up and snort them for a better rush :)