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Topic: Theresa May announces UK General Election for the 8th of June!
Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx started this discussion 9 years ago#61,712
Theresa May has called a snap general election to be held on 8 June, despite repeatedly claiming she was against the idea of an early vote.
In a surprise statement outside Downing street, the prime minister said: “After the country voted to leave the EU, Britain needed certainty, stability and strong leadership. Since I became prime minister the government has delivered precisely that.”
She claimed Labour and the other opposition parties had opposed her. “The country is coming together but Westminster is not. Labour have threatened to vote against the final agreement we reach. The Lib Dems have said they want to grind the business of government to a standstill. Unelected members of the House of Lords have vowed to fight us every step of the way.”
May said she was laying down a motion in the House of Commons that will require two-thirds of MPs to back it.
The announcement came as a huge surprise, causing massive speculation on Tuesday morning.
Robert Hayward, the Conservative peer and election expert, said: “This is a massive surprise to everyone but the very closest confidants, even in the Tory party. There will be many very worried Labour MPs and some pleased Lib Dem candidates.”
Green !BEERiVqJJw replied with this 9 years ago, 3 minutes later, 45 minutes after the original post[^][v]#778,890
@778,887 (Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx)
I do want my Brexit, but I disagree a lot with some of the Tories more authoritarian policies such as the Digital Economy Bill, Psychoactive Substances Act and Investigatory Powers Act. I am hoping, albeit it's probably not going to happen, for another Tory/Lib Dem coalition. The Lib Dems will keep some of the Tories more draconian laws in check, but I doubt they will have much say over Brexit. I do not want a solely Tory government. UKIP is a wasted vote now and Labour is just...
Svet !jzYkdX7lIw replied with this 9 years ago, 4 minutes later, 49 minutes after the original post[^][v]#778,891
@previous (Green !BEERiVqJJw)
The Tories have brought us the lowest unemployment since the 70s. Something that should benefit you if you pull your finger out.
Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx (OP) replied with this 9 years ago, 20 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#778,892
@778,890 (Green !BEERiVqJJw)
Totally agreed on those Tory policies you mentioned. I'm very uncomfortable with them too. Although, I take some comfort in knowing that the Tories are definitely still a centre-right party willing to make progressive overtures, and not a far-right party. So them being in wouldn't be a total disappointment, for me.
@778,888 (Svet !jzYkdX7lIw)
How safe are we talking? Copeland had been Labour since like the 50s, but the Tories snagged that in a by-election. I reckon there'll be some surprise losses for Labour.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 22 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#778,893
@778,891 (Svet !jzYkdX7lIw)
Zero hours contracts and sanctioning the unemployed and disabled, dumbass.
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#778,894
@778,879 (Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx)
8th June eh? That'll mean you can vote any time from midnight on the 6th until 23:59 on the 9th.
Svet !jzYkdX7lIw replied with this 9 years ago, 20 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#778,896
@778,893 (F)
Yes because all unemployment comes from zero hours and muh benefits cutz. There is in fact real opportunity for those with the right skills. There are loads of job vacancies for construction, trades, service industry and even in theatre and corporate events. I've been offered several full time jobs and freelance work but the only reason you idiots go on about muh zero hours is because that's all your left wing reddit circle work goes on about because you're all aged around 20 in your parents home and only apply for work at sports direct. Numnuts
Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx (OP) replied with this 9 years ago, 8 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#778,897
@previous (Svet !jzYkdX7lIw)
I think that anon makes a valid point, in that those unemployment numbers might be getting a boost from stuff like zero-hour contract and gig economy jobs like Deliveroo. And for some people, those kind of jobs are the only opportunities they have.
Granted, I'm not very knowledgable about jobs and the economy, so I won't try to add any more than that. But I do sense it's a valid point, to some extent.
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Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 28 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#778,898
Svet !jzYkdX7lIw replied with this 9 years ago, 25 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#778,903
@778,897 (Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx) @previous (H)
Every country fiddles their unemployment figures so even if you take such figures with a pinch of salt then we still have very low unemployment
Svet !jzYkdX7lIw double-posted this 9 years ago, 10 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#778,905
Anonymous C replied with this 9 years ago, 24 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#778,906
@previous (Svet !jzYkdX7lIw)
That's not unemployment
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#778,907
@previous (C)
No but it's touches in temp work like zero hours
Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx (OP) replied with this 9 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#778,908
@778,890 (Green !BEERiVqJJw)
One silver lining is that, if the election is a stomping for Labour as it probably will be, then it'll likely get rid of Corbyn. So we might get a more credible opposition leader out of it.
Anonymous H replied with this 9 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#778,909
Yeah, a slimy blairite cunt who can give us exactly the same as the conservatives except much more ineffectively.
Great.
Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx (OP) replied with this 9 years ago, 9 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#778,911
@previous (H)
Corbyn just can't win, m8. He's unpopular with the electorate, and is actively turning people off of Labour. Whether or not he's a good guy with good policies, the fact is that Labour is very unlikely to get into power with him in charge.
His successor could also be from the Labour left, so won't necessarily be a "Blairite". Whoever it is, I just hope they do a better job. The country needs a credible opposition especially now.
Anonymous I replied with this 9 years ago, 7 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#778,912
Diane Abbot for pm
Sophie joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 28 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#778,915
*sigh* UKIP has lost relevance and other far-right nationalist parties have long since lost legitimacy or even the right to participate in the electoral campaign (BNP's failure to pay its registration comes to mind).
Consider me disenfranchised. @previous (I)
Lol fuck that stupid overeducated, underintelligent negress sow.
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Anonymous I replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#778,916
Sophie replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#778,918
@previous (I)
They shouldn't have the right to use the 'Nationalist' in their name.
"Civic nationalism" is Fabio-Trotskyism disguised with vaguely ethnocentric jingoism at its most superficial. Fuck that shit.
Anonymous I replied with this 9 years ago, 15 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#778,921
@previous (Sophie)
You should threaten to kill the first minister.
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 34 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#778,922
@778,890 (Green !BEERiVqJJw)
Maybe you should vote for a party who will get you to wipe your shitty British arse. @778,905 (Svet !jzYkdX7lIw)
Lol. You really are a fucking spastic. Can't you even understand basic numbers? 5-10% is not nothing. @778,911 (Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx)
Cry more, millennial libtard. This is how democracy works :)
Anonymous F replied with this 9 years ago, 34 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#778,923
@778,896 (Svet !jzYkdX7lIw)
Im in my 30s and own my own house. Yes, a house, not a dingy little bedsit.
Anonymous K replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#778,925
@previous (F)
Your house is probably worth more than the pittance he claims his is. He really does live in a hovel :)
Anonymous I replied with this 9 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#778,926
Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx (OP) replied with this 9 years ago, 8 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#778,932
@778,928 (H)
Like I said, his successor doesn't necessarily have to be a "Blairite". The new leader would be chosen by the Labour Party members, and they might go for someone on Labour's left once again.
But under Corbyn, Labour is not getting into power. His policies, no matter how much you might like them, aren't doing anything with Labour in perpetual opposition. Victory is required for Labour to do anything.
Anonymous F replied with this 9 years ago, 9 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#778,934
@previous (Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx)
Id rather vote for someone who isnt just interested in pandering to the rich.
qew joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 1 hour later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#778,955
fake.
squeegee joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 38 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#778,960
can someone simplify this thread for us americans and let us know which ones are the republicans and which ones are the democrats it would help significantly. UKIP and Labor are obviously y'alls Libertarian and Green Party so their views don't matter at all and can be disregarded. i'm guessing the Lib Dems are the democrats and the tories are the republicans.
fuck those god damned tories. they're just the careless party of the rich and really want to take power away from ordinary citizens. so what is teresa may, is she a republican or a democrat?
Anonymous F replied with this 9 years ago, 8 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#778,962
Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 7 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#778,973
Brits need to abolish all political parties and return to King or Queen.
Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx (OP) replied with this 9 years ago, 2 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#778,974
@778,960 (squeegee)
Labour are more like your Democrats, in terms of success. Mostly it is either them or the Tories that win. The Lib Dems are one of the secondary (but not insignificant) parties in British politics.
UKIP is basically Trump but an entire political party. But now that Brexit is happening people have lost interest in them, thankfully.
Anonymous H replied with this 9 years ago, 2 hours later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#779,008
Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx (OP) replied with this 9 years ago, 20 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#779,036
@779,008 (H)
Ah, no, I just meant in terms of presence. The Tories and Labour are "the big two" of the UK, while the Republicans and Democrats are the "big two" of the US. And then Labour and the Democrats represent the left of their respective big twos.
I know there are probably lots of policy and ideological differences between Labour and the Democrats, but they fill similar roles in their respective countries. So it felt odd to me when Squeegee said that Labour were like the US Libertarian Party, who are a perpetual "third man" and don't really impact much.
Meta joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 6 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#779,041
This is a trick isn't it. Conservative party will lose and then say "whoops we don't have a mandate now can't Brexit sorry!"
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 9 years ago, 2 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#779,042
Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx (OP) replied with this 9 years ago, 3 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#779,047
@779,041 (Meta)
Haha, no way. The opposition party is comically weak right now, and the Tories are reaching some of their strongest leads in the polls. This is highly likely to be a comfortable win for the Conservatives, I assure you,
Theresa is doing this, partly, to strengthen her control over the Brexit process, in fact.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 9 years ago, 58 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#779,050
@779,044 (H)
That's exactly the outcome I was aiming for.
Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx (OP) replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#779,052
Also... I feel comfortable saying that Therea is the best-dressing world leader that I know of.
Meta replied with this 9 years ago, 6 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#779,055
@779,047 (Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx) > Haha, no way. The opposition party is comically weak right now, and the Tories are reaching some of their strongest leads in the polls.
Holy shit is she going to be Thatcher 2.0?
Svet !jzYkdX7lIw replied with this 9 years ago, 42 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#779,056
The problem lies in the widespread poverty and misery that occurs when they "wipe out dependence on the state".
Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx (OP) replied with this 9 years ago, 7 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#779,247
@779,198 (F) @779,241 (Svet !jzYkdX7lIw)
Well, I mean, getting people on benefits into work would be "wiping them out" in a sense.
@779,055 (Meta)
I do believe that she could reach that level of status, yes. The polls show she generally favourable view of Theresa and her actions. All she has to do is get a Brexit deal that pleases most Brits, and I think she'll secure a strong legacy.
But, granted, Brexit is going to hurt the UK no matter what she does, and the NHS is already in a bad way. So securing long-term prosperity may be difficult.
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Anonymous Q joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 7 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#779,280
> You're just saying that because she's almost 70.
haaaaahaha
Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx (OP) replied with this 9 years ago, 1 week later, 2 weeks after the original post[^][v]#781,714
Breaking news- Theresa May could have just lost herself the election. And it happened here in Cornwall, no less.
There’s nothing more traditionally British on a visit to the seaside than eating chips in the open air, but during a campaign visit to Cornwall on Tuesday Theresa May looked distinctly uncomfortable while tucking into a cone of them.
Pictured on a walkabout in Mevagissey, May looked for all the world like she had never eaten chips before – or at least not without a knife and fork.