Topic: White nationalist 'hero' gets rekt by a cuck.

Anonymous A started this discussion 9 years ago #59,147

And yes, the guy who punches him is a cuckold according to a doxxing by /pol/. Which makes this white nationalist 'hero' look even more pathetic that he got rekt by one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rh1dhur4aI

Svet !jzYkdX7lIw joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 30 minutes later[^] [v] #753,631

Not just anyold cuck but a shit eating cuck. I saw his dox and pictures. He actually allows women to shit on his face as a fetish. A true hero warror of the anfia left.

(Edited 30 seconds later.)

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 9 years ago, 12 minutes later, 42 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #753,632

@previous (Svet !jzYkdX7lIw)
So you're saying that he's Matt?

Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 5 minutes later, 48 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #753,633

@previous (A)
I think it is.

squeegee the shaman joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 58 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #753,651

how did they dox a dude in a mask with a hood up? serious question. i have no defense for this violence, just wondering how they discovered his identity.

kook !!OPZbEQMT1 joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 51 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #753,652

@previous (squeegee the shaman)
He pulled his hood down slightly and his face was exposed

(Edited 20 seconds later.)

squeegee the shaman replied with this 9 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #753,654

@previous (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
in the video? i watched it again... is there a high res version available i'm not seeing or something? if this video was used for identification... lol. jesus christ that's reaching...

(Edited 1 minute later.)

kook !!OPZbEQMT1 replied with this 9 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #753,655

@previous (squeegee the shaman)
I just saw stills from it. I'll look. Give me a moment

kook !!OPZbEQMT1 double-posted this 9 years ago, 8 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #753,657

@previous (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)

squeegee the shaman replied with this 9 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #753,659

@previous (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
...so where's the pic of this being the guy who punched spencer though? none of those pics clearly show this being the same dude... if this is all they got they're going to need to do a little better than that. how is the picture in the upper right, which shows his face, even connected to the picture on the left of spencer getting punched? same video? where is the video...?

(Edited 1 minute later.)

kook !!OPZbEQMT1 replied with this 9 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #753,661

@previous (squeegee the shaman)
I have no idea. I'm guessing that there are longer videos of him?

squeegee the shaman replied with this 9 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #753,663

@previous (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
i'm skeptical without seeing it. this has all the hallmarks of a 4-chan troll... a literal shit eating cuck, without a shred of evidence to back it up being published with the story...

squeegee the shaman double-posted this 9 years ago, 16 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #753,671

i am kinda looking around for the longer video. not finding a different one, just this one, where the videographer continues to film spencer and doesn't bother to follow the person in black at all. so, i question where the picture of the dudes face even came from. was that pic even from the same event, or did someone just find a pic of that dude with a black hoodie on and decide to pin it on him because it's a funny troll...

actually i don't care that much, i'm done looking into it personally. this is just a troll. if any of you want to dig and happen to find a longer video that shows the violence as well as recording the dudes face - then i'll agree, but this is pretty easy to see trolling guys. c'mon. you're better than this...

punching fascists in the face has been an american tradition since the 40s. the dude in black is a patriot.

Indy !KUahHbg6fY joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 1 hour later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #753,736

Should have punched that Nazi four times instead of just two.

Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 4 hours later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #753,861

The photo of this man, partially masked, is either real but from a different context or it is photoshopped. The attacker's face isn't visible in any of the videos or photos from the scene and he successfully fled.

Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 1 day later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #754,187

The puncher is obviously a young man by the way he throws himself at the racist, that guy is like 50 LMFAO who the fuck can move like that at 50

Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 12 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #754,190

@previous (H)
But 4chan investigated it!!! What are you going to believe, 4chan, or your own reasoning?

The Doctor !7MHPahvoGY joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 48 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #754,205

@753,736 (Indy !KUahHbg6fY)

Nice virtue signaling.

Anonymous G replied with this 9 years ago, 9 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #754,390

@754,190 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)

> But 4chan investigated it!!! What are you going to believe, 4chan, or your own reasoning?

Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 4 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #754,422

Fake news strikes again...

chili dog !!81dzJNNYL joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 5 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #754,448

lol nah

however there's a literal bounty on this guy's head. i hope everyone keeps their mouths shut.

kook !!OPZbEQMT1 replied with this 9 years ago, 4 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #754,478

@previous (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
Wow

brie !kGoudaMCFA joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #754,480

@previous (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
Didn't you know? Violence is okay if you don't like the person.

kook !!OPZbEQMT1 replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #754,481

@previous (brie !kGoudaMCFA)
Typical liberal scum

brie !kGoudaMCFA replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #754,482

@previous (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
;)

Anonymous K replied with this 9 years ago, 31 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #754,492

@754,481 (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
Some women are now claiming that he raped them

kook !!OPZbEQMT1 replied with this 9 years ago, 1 hour later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #754,538

@previous (K)
Yeah that doesn't surprise me at all

Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 27 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #754,546

@754,448 (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)

Richard Spencer 571-239-2797 [email protected]

Home Address:

98 Elk Highlands Drive
Whitefish, MT 59937

He’s renting an apartment in Alexandria, VA as a “headquarters” for the alt-right. The address is:

1001 King St
Alexandria, VA 22314

ken griffey sr joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 59 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #754,557

@previous (N)
this is the Nazi right

kook !!OPZbEQMT1 replied with this 9 years ago, 1 hour later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #754,567

@754,546 (N)
Everyone knows where he lives. He's notorious

chili dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 9 years ago, 4 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #754,598

@754,478 (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
what? you want this guy to get fucking killed for punching a nazi?

@754,546 (N)
that's not who i mean
there's a literal bounty on the guy who punched the nazi. $3000 last i saw

kook !!OPZbEQMT1 replied with this 9 years ago, 2 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #754,618

@previous (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
I want him to get arrested

chili dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 9 years ago, 7 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #754,649

@previous (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
if his identity gets found out he will frikkin die

Anonymous P joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 20 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #754,650

@754,480 (brie !kGoudaMCFA)
They call it "ends justify the means"

brie !kGoudaMCFA replied with this 9 years ago, 2 hours later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #754,656

@previous (P)
The end is that this guy will start carrying a gun and shoot thee next guy who punches him.

Source: https://twitter.com/RichardBSpencer/status/822631171653857280

(Edited 1 minute later.)

kook !!OPZbEQMT1 replied with this 9 years ago, 13 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #754,657

@754,649 (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
Maybe don't hurt people and you won't die

The Doctor !7MHPahvoGY replied with this 9 years ago, 5 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #754,658

@754,649 (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)

You mean someone might punch him.

ken griffey sr replied with this 9 years ago, 1 hour later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #754,670

@754,657 (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)

> Maybe don't hurt people and you won't die

lol

chili dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 9 years ago, 5 hours later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #754,759

@754,657 (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
that seems like a disproportionate reaction

kook !!OPZbEQMT1 replied with this 9 years ago, 20 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #754,762

@previous (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
So you're okay with someone getting assaulted over an unpopular opinion, but not okay with someone getting assaulted for assaulting someone? Sounds right to me

Anonymous H replied with this 9 years ago, 1 hour later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #754,773

@previous (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)

False equivalent

> So you're okay with someone getting punched in the face over an unpopular opinion, but not okay with someone being murdered by hitmen for assaulting someone? Sounds right to me

The Doctor !7MHPahvoGY replied with this 9 years ago, 27 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #754,775

@previous (H)

No it isn't. As a doctor, I can't help but wonder if you also feel that it isn't okay to punch, for instance, an avowed Communist.

Anonymous Q joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 30 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #754,776

@previous (The Doctor !7MHPahvoGY)

brie !kGoudaMCFA replied with this 9 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #754,777

@previous (Q)
obsessed.png

chili dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 9 years ago, 17 hours later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #754,852

@754,762 (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
a punch =/= murder
thanks

also genocide is not a valid opinion thanks

(Edited 18 seconds later.)

brie !kGoudaMCFA replied with this 9 years ago, 6 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #754,857

@previous (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
What makes you think the violent person who punched someone will be murdered?

Maybe the hitman will just be hired to punch him twice in the face and leave.

kook !!OPZbEQMT1 replied with this 9 years ago, 1 hour later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #754,896

@754,852 (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
You can kill someone with a blow to the head, and also one white nationalist can't pull off a genocide. Thanka

Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 9 years ago, 5 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #754,898

@previous (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
Yeah history has shown that one white nationalist leader can't really do any harm.

(Edited 13 seconds later.)

ken griffey sr replied with this 9 years ago, 12 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #754,901

@754,896 (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)

> You can kill someone with a blow to the head, and also one white nationalist can't pull off a genocide.
if you advocate genocide, don't you deserve a blow to the head?

Anonymous Q replied with this 9 years ago, 12 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #754,905

@754,896 (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)

> one white nationalist can't pull off a genocide. Thanka

Err, yes he can, quite easily, and it has happened. Thanka.

chili dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 9 years ago, 21 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #754,907

@754,857 (brie !kGoudaMCFA)
Oh yeah that's likely, $3000 bounty to fucking punch him and leave

chili dog !!81dzJNNYL double-posted this 9 years ago, 41 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #754,916

@754,896 (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
also this

Anonymous R joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 17 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #754,927

@previous (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
You can't go around punching people you disagree with.

brie !kGoudaMCFA replied with this 9 years ago, 6 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #754,929

@754,916 (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
Nice strawman.

Anonymous S joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 16 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #754,931

@754,927 (R)
Really this.

If I recall, the Nazis actually did go around beating up people who disagreed with them. As much as I laughed watching Richard Spencer get punched, saying it's okay to assault people you disagree with is really opening a can of worms for anyone to do the same. That being said, I hope the dude keeps a low profile for a while.

Anonymous H replied with this 9 years ago, 3 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #754,934

@754,775 (The Doctor !7MHPahvoGY)

> No it isn't. As a doctor, I can't help but wonder if you also feel that it isn't okay to punch, for instance, an avowed Communist.

I think it isn't okay to punch anyone but it isn't really a major deal when it happens.

The Doctor !7MHPahvoGY replied with this 9 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #754,935

@previous (H)

So you're saying all Communists should be punched, then. As a doctor, I happen to agree, but don't you think that's a bit violent?

ken griffey sr replied with this 9 years ago, 15 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #754,937

@754,916 (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
i love authority u can't punch me the law says so if one person gets punched everyone will start punching. if someone punches me the state should murder them

Anonymous R replied with this 9 years ago, 19 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #754,946

@previous (ken griffey sr)
I think people who are going around punching people they disagree with should be locked in a cage for a while.

chili dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 9 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #754,947

@754,937 (ken griffey sr)
if u punch me my friends will start a bounty for someone to murder u that's reasonable and justifiable right

squeegee the shaman joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 1 hour later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #754,987

punching fascists in the face is exactly how you deal with fascists. there's a whole school of thought on how since fascists literally ignore evidence the state is wrong, obfuscate the truth as a matter of national security, and attack any dissenting opinion - that means that the way you deal with the ideology is with out right violence. fascists see no middle ground and compromise is impossible, and it must be stamped out before it can cause damage. the whole rise of fascism in the 30s was super fast and super scary and super destructive. they knew after ww2 that punching fascists in the face was a patriotic duty. we've forgotten that.

it is NOT okay to use violence against political opinion, unless it's fascist.

there was like a whole series of superman comics where that's all he did was go around punching out fascists. come on. where's your sense of patriotism?

squeegee the shaman double-posted this 9 years ago, 56 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #754,990

and... you can compromise with socialist and communists. it's really just that fascism is just that bad.

brie !kGoudaMCFA replied with this 9 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #754,996

@754,987 (squeegee the shaman)
What does it accomplish though? The guy isn't going to stop because he got punched, but he will start carrying protection against the next guy who punches him.

kook !!OPZbEQMT1 replied with this 9 years ago, 10 hours later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #755,095

@754,898 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Bring up Hitler, automatically lose integrity

(Edited 14 seconds later.)

kook !!OPZbEQMT1 double-posted this 9 years ago, 53 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #755,096

@754,916 (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
Use your own words please

kook !!OPZbEQMT1 triple-posted this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #755,097

@754,901 (ken griffey sr)
People don't deserve violence for ideas

dw !vJwW0tsPXQ joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 38 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #755,099

@755,095 (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
I would generally agree with this except when you are talking about a Neo Nazi the comparison isn't very far off

kook !!OPZbEQMT1 replied with this 9 years ago, 7 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #755,101

@previous (dw !vJwW0tsPXQ)
It is though. Most neo Nazos aren't even trying for decimation

Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 9 years ago, 1 hour later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #755,107

@755,095 (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
In a discussion about the dangers of nazi-like ideologies, bringing up hitler is not allowed? I'm sorry but what the fuck are you smoking?

ken griffey sr replied with this 9 years ago, 1 hour later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #755,116

@755,101 (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)

> It is though. Most neo Nazos aren't even trying for decimation

lmao not all neo Nazis
when will it end

Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 9 years ago, 11 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #755,119

@previous (ken griffey sr)
I think the world has decided to become a self-parody for the next couple years.

chili dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 9 years ago, 33 minutes later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #755,124

@755,095 (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
what the fuck
you realise hitler was a nazi right
and therefore is a good reference point for neo nazis
right

chili dog !!81dzJNNYL double-posted this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #755,125

@755,101 (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
lol his website ran this essay
https://web.archive.org/web/20120216183528/http:/www.alternativeright.com/main/the-magazine/is-black-genocide-right
you think he's not pro genocide?

Instead of asking how we can make reparations for slavery, colonialism, and Apartheid or how we can equalize academic scores and incomes, we should instead be asking questions like, "Does human civilization actually need the Black race?" "Is Black genocide right?" and, if it is, "What would be the best and easiest way to dispose of them?"

The White race is history's victor. We conquered Africa and the Africans on the sheer merit of the superiority of our race, culture, and society, and in a land that was largely going to waste we built an affluent and modern society capable not only of supporting a large number of our own people but also a vastly larger number of Blacks than would otherwise have been able to survive there.

(Edited 1 minute later.)

Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 9 years ago, 8 minutes later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #755,126

@previous (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
It's now 2017 so some muslims being terrorists means we have to ban people from muslim majority nations, but some nazis don't necessarily want to exterminate entire races of people right this second, so we have to be respectful of the opinions of all nazis.

(Edited 38 seconds later.)

chili dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 9 years ago, 12 minutes later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #755,127

@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
all the liberals coming out saying "you shouldn't punch someone for having an opinion you disagree with" who were completely silent when police unlawfully kill people, when hate crimes are committed against lgbt, poc, muslims. but now the violence must stop!!!
oh and at this same march rally thing a white nationalist shot someone, turned himself in, and was released without charges. and people are outraged about a punch to the fucking face. the guy who was shot is still in critical condition.

Anonymous H replied with this 9 years ago, 1 hour later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #755,133

@754,935 (The Doctor !7MHPahvoGY)

Nope, nobody should be punched. Thanks.

Anonymous K replied with this 9 years ago, 1 hour later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #755,147

You can't go around punching Muslims because they support ISIS, Jews because they support Israels war crimes, trannys because they want to shit in your bucket, or Nazis that want racial superiority. All of these people should be treated equally, without being punched, and be allowed to have their different ideas that you might not like.

They probably don't like your ideas either. That doesn't mean they should punch you though.

kook !!OPZbEQMT1 replied with this 9 years ago, 1 hour later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #755,182

@755,107 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
@755,116 (ken griffey sr)
Seriously. A random neo Nazi is not comparable to Hitler

Anonymous R replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #755,185

@previous (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
What about a random neo nazi that failed art school?

kook !!OPZbEQMT1 replied with this 9 years ago, 5 seconds later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #755,186

@755,127 (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
Violence doesn't excuse other violence and it's never okay to hit someone just because you disagree with them. What if multiple people punched you for being an sjw?

kook !!OPZbEQMT1 double-posted this 9 years ago, 23 seconds later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #755,187

@755,185 (R)
He wasn't random though.

chili dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 9 years ago, 23 minutes later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #755,194

@755,186 (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
Genocide is not a valid opinion

kook !!OPZbEQMT1 replied with this 9 years ago, 1 hour later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #755,230

@previous (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
He didn't commit genocide, did he?

brie !kGoudaMCFA replied with this 9 years ago, 16 minutes later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #755,234

@previous (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
No, he is simply using his words, which is a foreign concept to the violent savages going around punching people for speaking their mind.

ken griffey sr replied with this 9 years ago, 54 minutes later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #755,250

@previous (brie !kGoudaMCFA)

> No, he is simply using his words, which is a foreign concept to the violent savages going around punching people for speaking their mind.

...because advocating genocide is a-OK apparently??
sickos

ken griffey sr double-posted this 9 years ago, 39 seconds later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #755,251

@755,194 (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)

> Genocide is not a valid opinion

no use arguing with nazis

brie !kGoudaMCFA replied with this 9 years ago, 6 minutes later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #755,252

@755,250 (ken griffey sr)
It's just words. In the United States of America you are allowed to use words.

You are currently using words to advocate assaulting people with unpopular opinions.

ken griffey sr replied with this 9 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #755,253

@previous (brie !kGoudaMCFA)
lmao yes you are allowed to use words. the state won't punch you don't worry. doesn't mean u don't deserve to get knocked out for being an asshole. doesn't mean you won't

ken griffey sr double-posted this 9 years ago, 57 seconds later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #755,254

@755,252 (brie !kGoudaMCFA)
also if we were having this conversation irl I'd probably have assaulted your fat ass

brie !kGoudaMCFA replied with this 9 years ago, 3 minutes later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #755,255

@755,253 (ken griffey sr)
@previous (ken griffey sr)
You are a savage.

I will leave you with this quote:
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

ken griffey sr replied with this 9 years ago, 55 seconds later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #755,256

@previous (brie !kGoudaMCFA)
and you're a fucking nerd who apparently doesn't know how going outside works

Anonymous K replied with this 9 years ago, 3 minutes later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #755,259

@755,254 (ken griffey sr)
You are like 4'2" 60lbs and are trying to be an internet tough guy, lol

ken griffey sr replied with this 9 years ago, 14 minutes later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #755,260

@previous (K)
yeah I am 3'0" and 20 lbs

chili dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 9 years ago, 1 hour later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #755,270

@755,230 (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
He's advocating the fuck out of it and in no world is that acceptable
Also hate speech is illegal here :B

Anonymous R replied with this 9 years ago, 11 minutes later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #755,272

@previous (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
Actually in the past it was not only acceptable but an advantage, if your group was the first to carry it out when resources were scarce.

kook !!OPZbEQMT1 replied with this 9 years ago, 12 hours later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #755,347

@755,270 (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
I'm glad I'm not in Canada

chili dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 9 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #755,363

@previous (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
because you like hate speech?

kook !!OPZbEQMT1 replied with this 9 years ago, 49 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #755,375

@previous (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
Because I don't believe in the concept of illegal speech

chili dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 9 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #755,377

@previous (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
you realise some speech is illegal in the us too right? like the classic example of yelling "fire" in a crowded theater?

Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #755,378

@755,375 (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
So literally no speech whatsoever should be illegal?

kook !!OPZbEQMT1 replied with this 9 years ago, 19 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #755,386

@755,377 (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
Of course I know that

kook !!OPZbEQMT1 double-posted this 9 years ago, 44 seconds later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #755,390

@755,378 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Almost no speech should be illegal. I don't even agree with hate crime laws

Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 9 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #755,399

@previous (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
How do you determine what speech should be illegal and what isn't? And what's so bad about hate crime laws?

Anonymous B replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #755,401

@755,377 (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
Unless there is a fire but I think that comes under raising a false alarm. Like calling emergency services with a fake bomb scare isn't free speech

kook !!OPZbEQMT1 replied with this 9 years ago, 37 seconds later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #755,403

@755,399 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
It determines the severity of crimes by the race or sex of a person. I'm against that.
Also how does anyone determine anything to be illegal? Someone yelling fire in a theater can cause a stampede, someone saying that Hitler did nothing wrong does what?

Anonymous K replied with this 9 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #755,409

@previous (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
It causes massive online butthurt

kook !!OPZbEQMT1 replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #755,412

@previous (K)
Lol

It gets Shia Labiouf arrested

chili dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 9 years ago, 28 seconds later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #755,414

@755,403 (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
The Criminal Code of Canada. Sections 318, 319, and 320 of the Code forbid hate propaganda. "Hate propaganda" means "any writing, sign or visible representation that advocates or promotes genocide or the communication of which by any person would constitute an offence under section 319."

seems reasonable to me

chili dog !!81dzJNNYL double-posted this 9 years ago, 46 seconds later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #755,415

@755,401 (B)
i know. i'm just saying kook's saying she'd rather not live in canada because she thinks no speech should be illegal, and some speech is illegal in the us.

kook !!OPZbEQMT1 replied with this 9 years ago, 44 seconds later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #755,416

@755,414 (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
I'm sure it does

Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #755,422

@755,403 (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
It only modifies the severity of the crime, and all hate speech laws in the US as far as I can tell are race, sex, etc. neutral. They just say if you you commit a crime against a particular person BECAUSE they are a member of a race/sex/whatever that's socially more damaging than targeting someone who happens to be a woman, or white, or whatever, and needs a harsher punishment as a result. I don't think that's a crazy idea.

Just for the record I don't support hate speech legislation, but I'm just trying to figure out your legal theory here. In the U.S. slander and libel are both illegal and yet neither result in the immediate physical harm of any party involved. Do you think that's right?

(Edited 24 seconds later.)

kook !!OPZbEQMT1 replied with this 9 years ago, 56 seconds later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #755,427

@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
I'm kind of against the idea of slander and libel as well
And I don't think that targeting someone for their race or sex makes a crime worse.

(Edited 1 minute later.)

chili dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 9 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #755,436

@755,416 (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
you\re for speech that advocates or promotes genocide?

(Edited 14 seconds later.)

kook !!OPZbEQMT1 replied with this 9 years ago, 47 seconds later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #755,438

@previous (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
I'm not for, I'm just not against.

chili dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #755,444

@previous (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
why would you not be against advocating genocide

Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 9 years ago, 5 seconds later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #755,445

@755,427 (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
How would someone whose business was harmed, or livelihood was threatened because of knowing falsehoods get recourse then? Suppose I'm a high school teacher. I have a student who doesn't try and doesn't do their homework. I fail them. Their parents are infuriated and start telling everyone that I am a convicted child molester. They know I'm not a convicted child molester. The word gets around to school administrators and rather than figure it out, I'm fired. Right now I can sue them for libel or slander, for recourse. What's your alternative?

(Edited 36 seconds later.)

kook !!OPZbEQMT1 replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #755,447

@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
To do nothing. Shouldn't be able to punish someone over a rumor.

kook !!OPZbEQMT1 double-posted this 9 years ago, 45 seconds later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #755,451

@755,444 (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
Because it harms no one. I am not against pro tranny speech or race mixing speech either.

chili dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #755,454

@previous (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
advocating/promoting genocide directly increases the probability of someone being killed due to this ideology?

Anonymous K replied with this 9 years ago, 43 seconds later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #755,455

@755,445 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Sue the school, you damn pedo. Thanks

Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 9 years ago, 16 seconds later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #755,456

@755,447 (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
So there should be absolutely no punishment for lies that destroy the lives of other people? I mean...then what is the incentive to NOT do that? How does a functioning society develop? I don't understand.

kook !!OPZbEQMT1 replied with this 9 years ago, 20 seconds later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #755,457

@755,454 (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
I've see no proof of that.

Anonymous K replied with this 9 years ago, 21 seconds later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #755,458

@755,454 (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
Not someone, all of them. That's sort of the whole point

kook !!OPZbEQMT1 replied with this 9 years ago, 21 seconds later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #755,459

@755,456 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
I just think that it's a grey idea that is very hard to prosecute.

chili dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 9 years ago, 3 seconds later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #755,460

@755,447 (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
so if i called the nursing home you worked at with the allegation that you have abused elders and you were fired because of this phone call, you should have no recourse against me?

ed: and spread this rumour around the families of those at the nursing home. that's important too

(Edited 47 seconds later.)

kook !!OPZbEQMT1 replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #755,461

@previous (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
No I could do nothing. Because I couldn't change public opinion.

chili dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 9 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #755,466

@previous (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
it is directly due to me spreading this rumour that you have lost your livelihood and your reputation has been smeared. you think you should have no recourse against me in this situation?

Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 9 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #755,472

@755,459 (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
Determining appropriate punishments and remedies in "gray" or tricky legal situations is one of the primary purposes of courts and litigation. The number of big precedent setting cases that were legally not in some kind of gray zone is probably like 2. I don't see that as a reason to not do it.

(Edited 29 seconds later.)

ken griffey sr replied with this 9 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #755,474

@755,457 (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)

> I've see no proof of that.

you're a fucking retard

chili dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #755,477

@755,457 (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
wait do you really think that large, non-centrally organised pro-genocide groups can proceed without a leader who gives good speeches? see: literally hitler

kook !!OPZbEQMT1 replied with this 9 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #755,513

@previous (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
They can proceed without public speeches and already do so.

chili dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 9 years ago, 48 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #755,531

@previous (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
hate speech laws apply to private speech as well afaik

kook !!OPZbEQMT1 replied with this 9 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #755,565

@previous (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
Probably

chili dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 9 years ago, 24 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #755,573

@previous (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
so uh
your comment is invalid
any organised group needs a leader
this leader needs to communicate
that communication which advocates or promotes genocide is illegal
and you see an issue with this?

kook !!OPZbEQMT1 replied with this 9 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #755,609

@previous (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
I'm saying that hatespeech laws don't squash sedition

chili dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 9 years ago, 10 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #755,612

@previous (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
oh no of course not
but it helps
also you're saying that calling for genocide is sedition? really? that's fucking reaching, esp. since sedition means inciting people to rebel against an authority and most of the important people in gov't are white?

brie !kGoudaMCFA replied with this 9 years ago, 12 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #755,614

@755,573 (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
punching people is illegal too

chili dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 9 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #755,615

@previous (brie !kGoudaMCFA)
nobody is saying that it is not illegal

brie !kGoudaMCFA replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #755,617

@previous (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
I am just pointing out that it is in fact illegal

you respect your country's hate speech laws but want to see a lawbreaker get away scot free

(Edited 1 minute later.)

kook !!OPZbEQMT1 replied with this 9 years ago, 46 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #755,630

@755,612 (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
What is it with you and race? Most people in the government in white countries are white. Thats obvious

chili dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 9 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #755,632

@previous (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
the us is a white country?

Anonymous K replied with this 9 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #755,633

@previous (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
Yes.

kook !!OPZbEQMT1 replied with this 9 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #755,669

@755,632 (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
It a white majority country.

? joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #755,670

@previous (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
For ten more minutes.

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