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Topic: Could someone check on DM?

Anonymous A started this discussion 15 years ago #5,903

Louisiana is flooding, and I know he lives in the flood zone. You may hate him, but could someone please make sure he is ok at least?

Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later[^] [v] #102,431

He was on Tinychat earlier getting drunk. He's probably passed out in a stupor by now. I'm sure he's fine. If not, at least it was a painless death.

Flapjack !!vHCjY3yik joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 7 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #102,437

He's fine.

Falco !PZmcClOUDk joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 18 minutes later, 25 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #102,452

He's dead.

Stealth joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 28 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #102,455

Cockroaches always survive and DM is clearly 110% Cockroach.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 29 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #102,456

@previous (Stealth)
Hi, Def.

Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 29 minutes later, 58 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #102,472

@previous (A)
Yes Yes
After all the Death of a Pedo is always a good thing to hope for.

Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 9 hours later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #102,530

He lives 60 miles from the river, and the river is 3 miles wide (normally is 1 mile wide). Totally in danger.

totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 31 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #102,544

Doesn't he live in a new area now?

totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic double-posted this 15 years ago, 39 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #102,545

@102,472 (Syntax)
There are some perfectly nice pedophiles. I never judge someone by their thoughts, just actions.

Nega !34Kas0OdzM joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 42 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #102,547

In all likelihood, OP is Bucket.

Falco !PZmcClOUDk replied with this 15 years ago, 11 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #102,560

@previous (Nega !34Kas0OdzM)
probably

Nega !34Kas0OdzM replied with this 15 years ago, 58 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #102,561

@previous (Falco !PZmcClOUDk)
Wait, so you lurk TC?

Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 8 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #102,562

@102,545 (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)

He's full of shit and can't prove his claim anyway.

Nega !34Kas0OdzM replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #102,563

@previous (I)
Honestly, the inflationary use of the Pedo-accusation bothers me quite a bit.

totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #102,571

@102,562 (I)
I know. I meant pedos in general, Matt is not one of them.

Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #102,637

He's so fat that he'd float anyway.

Navi !!3gpAcg/hF joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 5 hours later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #103,106

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Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 2 hours later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #103,196

@102,545 (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)

> There are some perfectly nice pedophiles. I never judge someone by their thoughts, just actions.

What drugs are you on????Nice Pedophiles????? Men and sometimes women who rape and tear open undeveloped sex organs, just to get their rocks off.

How can such demented people ever be nice. Sure nice as in ---to a 10 year old girl the guy says...Sweet heart would you like some candy? and how about you step into my car so I can show you my popsicle stick. How many Pedos do you know in R/L?

Syntax double-posted this 15 years ago, 39 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #103,214

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Sure.

> totoforhire
> There are some perfectly nice pedophiles.

Pedophiles have been judged criminal by the courts, sinful by theologians, and psychologically disordered by the mental-health profession. Victims under 12 were typically abused by caregivers: parents, step-parents, other relatives, babysitters, or camp or recreational-program staff. Teens were generally abused by friends or acquaintances.

According to totoforhire these criminals and disordered deviants can be perfectly nice.

How did I do on the re-write?

Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #103,218

@previous (Syntax)
Holy shit, you made sense. Anyway, I agree that many pedophiles fall under what you just said, but many also realize they have a problem and get help without ever molesting a child. It's wrong to say that those people are automatically bad people.

Also, you haven't presented any solid evidence that Matt is a pedophile.

Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 double-posted this 15 years ago, 10 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #103,227

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The actresses he lusts over tend to be 15 or 16 though. That's still kinda sick, and in many states it would be considered statutory rape (if you actually did anything), and it would be considered child porn (if there were porn of them) simply because the law is set up to protect underage girls and they clump it in with child porn, but it's not pedophilia. In many states, 16 is the age of consent.

Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 9 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #103,229

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The only reason I made any sense was because I pulled content and made minimal modifications to that content right off the web.

What is your source of information >many also realize they have a problem and get help without ever molesting a child. It's wrong to say that those people are automatically bad people.

Source please

I made my reports to the FBI, state and local police. Warrants were issued by a judge and later a 2nd judge (one federal one local) Wire tap warrants were renewed several times. My direct source on the renewals came from Cox Cable his ISP at the time. He is more then aware of the law following him and vans on his street and in the past years has posted about odd things his way that made no sense lol. Several times he had computer and gizmo glitches, that most people never have lol.

At the point I snailed the packages to Law, my work on that "discovery" was complete. For me case closed. Now for years forward he is being watched. After all when one actually writes a confession for months on end and includes names of students he had in his classroom at the time, one is asking for a microscope looking upon existence on the net and cell phone etc. Yes he often changed the kids names, and other times swapped first and last names and on other occasions he used the same exact names. Co~wink~e~dink????? FBI presented the information to the Diocese and days later he was no longer needed at that school. He denies he ever taught at that school. Leo asked for the name of in mail and he got what he asked for.

Yes !4et0YaTXO. joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #103,231

@previous (Syntax)
You're full of shit, old man!

Where's the PHOTOGRAPHIC evidence?

Yeah, I thought so…

Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #103,233

@103,229 (Syntax)
I need a source to prove that if you have a problem but get help before hurting someone that you're not automatically a bad person? I don't need a source to prove that sort of basic ethical logic. To say that all pedophiles are bad people who rape and abuse children is a much more bold statement and actually does warrant a source.

Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 14 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #103,239

@previous (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
One day you may enjoy a course in Logic 101 lol

There are studies available for zillions of topics. You made a bold statement

> many also realize they have a problem and get help without ever molesting a child.

I suppose you may argue that the word "many" may range from .01% to a greater number. When you say many, how many percentage wise?
@103,231 (Yes !4et0YaTXO.)
Cute, you are asking for CP posted. One of the warrants was for AnT content as found on DM's ISP, where he requested photos and other content. Not being very bright he pissed of kimmo to the point that kimmo outed Matt and later banned him as so many know. Anyone could of course say they were Matt, however that is the value of Lawful Intercept Warrants. Dates and exact times and IP matching - Output from Louisiana to AnT with requests for CP made and discussions of sources of CP. I of course had no way to prove the AnT IP match. That is what the Law does with Warrants/

I could prove and did because frankly it was so easy a 10 year old kid could do the same with CP posted on ihatemen.com - don't bother going there, yes the site shows life and after two years they still say they are looking for new software, When the Feds shut it down, for some reason they also pulled off the software for the site. I think that was only accidental but even though I almost have daily contact with that agency re other work, they NEVER give me the time of day on feedback after a report.

Other then the first time I reported someone who did pull a 5 year prison term, and even much more re personal hell in court over child custody matters after jail.

Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 replied with this 15 years ago, 26 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #103,255

@previous (Syntax)
> I suppose you may argue that the word "many" may range from .01% to a greater number. When you say many, how many percentage wise?
The fact that I didn't quantify just proves that your statement is more bold than mine. All I'm saying is that just being a pedophile doesn't automatically make you a bad person, and that it is likely that some get help and never harm a child, or stay in the closet and control themselves. You made the bold claim that it's impossible for them to control themselves or get help, and that they're all child molesters without exception. The burden of proof is on you.

Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #103,320

@previous (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
Not about to get in2 some useless pissing contest with you on this. Just using wiki and looking for the few examples of Pedo's that have it in their hearts yet do not actually commit...and of the massive references FOR Active Pedos 129 references!!! Not really because in looking for cases of thinking about it or fantasy about and not acting on it...Three that is "3" total references out of the 129.

> According to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), pedophilia is a paraphilia in which a person has intense and recurrent >sexual urges towards and fantasies about prepubescent children and on which feelings they have either acted or which cause distress or interpersonal >difficulty

Large body of text follows detailing the horrid deviant deplorable nature - behavior of this crime. leading to the 126 references/ [1] to [26] and [30] to [129]

> but some offenders do not meet the clinical diagnosis standards for pedophilia, and the clinical diagnosis standards pertain to prepubescents. >Additionally, not all pedophiles actually commit such abuse.[27][28][29]

So yes no doubt there are a FEW who think about it, vs the many who act upon it, based on just the references alone. I would imagine one of the three references may end up with Stats or not.

I do have one interesting view inside the many here who in their hearts are your basic common Child Molester. a poll recently asked the question - Make CP illegal - Illegal the Decriminalization of. I do not remember the final result, yet I do remember the surprise of how many voted for Decriminalization of CP. That tells me the hidden Agenda of the many who support the :they only think about it but would not act on it:

I Say the very act of thinking about the ripping up of insides of a child---the very thought of such, makes for a very SICK PERSON - Acting it out or not. Much like someone who has fantasies of Rape or Murder but does not end up committing the crime. Sick Twisted people.

Of course there are those like you who support .....hummmmm and just what do you really support? Are you one of the many here who wish they could view CP? - I am not trying to be a shit head on this......It truly bothers me when I run into this sickness.

Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 replied with this 15 years ago, 30 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #103,326

@previous (Syntax)
Nothing you said proves that all pedophiles commit crimes and are terrible people. Also, my logic is perfectly rational, you failed to disprove it, and you called it a "pissing contest" because you're wrong. Have a good day, jackass. And no, I'm not advocating CP, just calling you out on your stereotype.

Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 26 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #103,327

@103,320 (Syntax)
> I Say the very act of thinking about the ripping up of insides of a child---the very thought of such, makes for a very SICK PERSON - Acting it out or not. Much like someone who has fantasies of Rape or Murder but does not end up committing the crime. Sick Twisted people.

Sure, I suppose that's pretty sick, but you are failing to see a boundary between thought and action. Try applying that reasoning to murder, as you suggest. By the same logic, anyone who has fantasized about murdering someone is a twisted person, whether or not they actually went through with the act. I could tell you about how many thousands of Wikipedia references describe gruesome murders and killings, but that does nothing to condemn otherwise harmless people who indulge in a little cathartic fantasy about someone they don't like. There are plenty of people who read about murder, look for news stories about murder, watch violent movies, or even show interest in pictures of gore. Most of them don't run out and murder someone, and an odd interest or slight fixation on violence isn't enough to condemn them as murderers.

You seem really angry at pedophiles. I can see why you think it's revolting, but you seem too ready to condemn someone on the basis of what you suspect they might be capable of in whatever violent fantasy you dream up for them. There is a line between thought and action that you seem to be willfully ignoring here.

tl;dr: LOL thoughtcrime

> hummmmm and just what do you really support? Are you one of the many here who wish they could view CP?
LOL Maybe if you accuse everyone who disagrees with you, people will stop questioning your assumptions. Keep it up.

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Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 29 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #103,329

@previous (B)
I could but not this late ...not after one hell of a super day, go into a mass of detail that would end up tl;dr - that line between the many who think murder yet on a daily basis THEY are not dreaming of the crime nor looking at net photos to excite them on the act of murder.

That big leap from thought crimes to vent as in the example you describe, so I fully understand where you are coming from. Yes very angry at Pedo's and most people are. So it again comes down to this =>Thought vs Crime<= and I argue that those wired into CP, those who search for childrens photos or even child models as a turn on - Are very sick. Society does carry the burden of people so wired as to be dangerous to themselves and others.

Nor do I accuse everyone that disagrees with me. The fact is many her during that poll were vocal about wanting CP to be LEGAL. Nor pardon me if I call that SICK. One cannot produce CP without harming children. One can produce crime murder dramas for TV with no one harmed. CP is another matter if you see my point about the harm to children it brings.

@103,326 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
I am most pleased to Sterotype Child Molesters, those who have the gun loaded and who are ready to rape and perhaps kill the child, and those who are masturbating to CP where a child was harmed in order to provide content to those who have yet to commit the crime directly yet are committing the crime directly by downloading CP content or go out to look for that content.

Nor is it my job to prove to you or anyone that those into the thought crime and whack off to CP, are whacking off to content that harmed a child.

Syntax double-posted this 15 years ago, 19 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #103,330

@103,327 (B)
I could but not this late ...not after one hell of a super day, go into a mass of detail that would end up tl;dr - that line between the many who think murder yet on a daily basis THEY are not dreaming of the crime nor looking at net photos to excite them on the act of murder.

That big leap from thought crimes to vent as in the example you describe, so I fully understand where you are coming from. Yes very angry at Pedo's and most people are. So it again comes down to this =>Thought vs Crime<= and I argue that those wired into CP, those who search for childrens photos or even child models as a turn on - Are very sick. Society does carry the burden of people so wired as to be dangerous to themselves and others.

Nor do I accuse everyone that disagrees with me. The fact is many here during that poll were vocal about wanting CP to be LEGAL. Nor pardon me if I call that SICK. One cannot produce CP without harming children. One can produce crime murder dramas for TV with no one harmed. CP is another matter if you see my point about the harm to children it brings.

@103,326 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
I am most pleased to Sterotype Child Molesters, those who have the gun loaded and who are ready to rape and perhaps kill the child, and those who are masturbating to CP where a child was harmed in order to provide content to those who have yet to commit the crime directly yet are committing the crime directly by downloading CP content or go out to look for that content.

Nor is it my job to prove to you or anyone that those into the thought crime and whack off to CP, are whacking off to content that harmed a child.

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Nega !34Kas0OdzM joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #103,356

ITT: Why democracy is a retarded comcept.

Yes !4et0YaTXO. replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #103,366

@103,239 (Syntax)
I'm asking for proof that he is a pedo. I'm not asking for a made-up story.

Where's the proof?

totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #103,404

@103,330 (Syntax)
I think about murder all of the time. Am I a murderer?

Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #103,448

What makes or made or will never make any sense about this topic is: If one looks at the posted time vs posts made by "subject" of the Topic and compares to the Banned Site - One finds that the Topic was a troll Topic.

Or out of Dyslexic mode - The answer was always at the Banned site!!!!
Trolls someone wants to be in the running for #3 for real.

totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 13 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #103,457

@previous (Syntax)
Whatever you say.

Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #103,458

@previous (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
I just did a double check recheck to be sure. That is all I can be sure of this AM. Sun is shinning birds are singing, all is well with the Universalistic portion of my Planet Earth, except in 8 minutes I have to turn on a buggy Satellite I turned off late last night and if its still broken, it will cut into my Surfing my Ocean Blue this PM, and that will suck

Anonymous I replied with this 15 years ago, 17 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #103,479

ITT def cannot even prove once his claims of matthew miller's pedocity.

Ks !KansasxqvM joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #103,482

@previous (I)
> implying Def isn't DM

Y'all are too easy.

totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #103,486

@previous (Ks !KansasxqvM)
He isn't.

Anonymous R joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #103,489

@103,482 (Ks !KansasxqvM)
He's not...

Anonymous R double-posted this 15 years ago, 15 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #103,490

I don't think.

Ks !KansasxqvM replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #103,493

@103,486 (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
@103,489 (R)
[citation needed]

totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #103,502

@previous (Ks !KansasxqvM)
I was a Ghoul mod and could tell who was posting what.

Anonymous I replied with this 15 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #103,522

@103,482 (Ks !KansasxqvM)

Except he clearly isn't.

Ks !KansasxqvM joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #103,523

@103,502 (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
Proxies yo.

@previous (I)
Intended effect is affective.


Anyone who knows DM well enough knows exactly how far he'll go to pull off a persona with a shtick.

Yes !4et0YaTXO. replied with this 15 years ago, 38 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #103,581

Externally hosted image@103,479 (I)
He can't even make up a convincing story LOL.

totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #103,596

@previous (Yes !4et0YaTXO.)
For some reason, he thinks the only proof available would require him to distribute child porn.

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