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Topic: they are actually learning FORTRAN in the class before me

chili dog !!81dzJNNYL started this discussion 9 years ago #57,362

why on earth
what possible use does that have now

Syntax joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later[^] [v] #737,329

maybe it's a history class
ba dum tsss

DasSheeple !pE87XcIVxw joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 3 minutes later, 4 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #737,331

They should learn cobol. It pays better.

Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #737,332

I've heard Fortran is making a comeback.

brie !kGoudaMCFA joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 2 minutes later, 7 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #737,333

There is lots of stuff in the worlds still running on fortran and cobol and someday the old fucks like Syntax who understand will all die. So we need them to pass it on before they die.

The Doctor !7MHPahvoGY joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 27 minutes later, 35 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #737,334

@previous (brie !kGoudaMCFA)

> believing a single word that comes out of (((Syntax)))'s keyboard

DasSheeple !pE87XcIVxw replied with this 9 years ago, 41 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #737,346

@previous (The Doctor !7MHPahvoGY)
He's right tho. You'd be surprised to find out that most of the financial market still runs on shit glued together in cobol 30+ years ago. And rewriting and developing a complex realtime system like that now would be more expensive than pay old fuck who still know the language 300k+ annual to maintain it.

I'm not saying the class before @OPs is learning fortran for the sake of being fortran programmers, but I can see the advantage of learning such a niche language.

Syntax joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #737,348

@737,329 (Syntax)
@737,334 (The Doctor !7MHPahvoGY)

> > believing a single word that comes out of (((Syntax)))'s keyboard

Being Low of IQ + Gullible enough 2Fall for a Clone

Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #737,352

@737,334 (The Doctor !7MHPahvoGY)

> being a sad Salford ponce who still lives with his mother Irene Hefford

Syntax replied with this 9 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #737,353

@OP

> why on earth
> what possible use does that have now

#1: I took FORTRAN Classes at work waaaaayyyy back in the early 60's at Hughes Malibu Research Labs. HATED IT but used it Only for Math stuff On IBM360 and had to actually punch out cardboard punch cards to input the program

#2 On occasion I use a Supercomputer located in San Jose and there are a series of them of different brands and ALL Use FORTRAN for Scientific Number crunching. After reading your topic and I had to talk to a VP of software development at Qualcomm - at the end of the conversation I asked her the why FORTRAN and she said it still is the language of choice over C++ because its near impossible to write code in FORTRAN that ends up SLOW and its always easy to write code in C++ that ends up slow in processing. Of the many down sides She said is formatting the code to get it into the machine is a BITCH. All of that was made far more easy in modern languages with that down side of very few coders can do a complex set of scientific calculations that end up processed with the speed that FORTRAN brings.

So given people only use Supercomputers except Watson - for Math and Speed is everything or you wood not be using such a computer - FORTRAN ends up a TOP Choice.

Chili one other reason and I only no this from on line contact with a guy in UK who codes for UK Military projects - He mostly writes in FORTRAN but of course he says he cannot explain why re a security issue -

Good time to add this image because the computers that control ALL NUKES - All Missiles that are launched from Silos in USA use FORTRAN as the code and this is the Memory device and I am not kidding - 60 minutes not long ago did a feature down in a Silo and held one of these up before the Gal inserted it into the drive.

The Doctor !7MHPahvoGY replied with this 9 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #737,364

@737,348 (Syntax)

> Being this easily provoked

@previous (Syntax)

Cool story bro.

The Doctor !7MHPahvoGY double-posted this 9 years ago, 3 hours later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #737,421

@737,352 (H)

See @737,334 (The Doctor !7MHPahvoGY)

FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI joined in and replied with this 9 years ago, 1 hour later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #737,428

@737,353 (Syntax)
I've held one of those.

Syntax replied with this 9 years ago, 2 hours later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #737,458

@previous (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
Same for me. Hobby experience with those disks soured me on the only Military project I worked on while at Malibu Research Labs for Hughes. I was the lead engineer on the Nuke Fail Safe system. Large team spread out over several counties with major pain in the ass DOD sticking nose in every chance they got.

Basic Fail Safe scenario the only one I can write about -

1: Base commander has a mental breakdown and decides to Lunch Nukes on their own -
A Base commander cannot do anything as long as the hard connection from DOD/NORAD/ remains connected
B Base commander cuts the cable.
C Clock starts which inhibits Base commander from doing anything - All controls go neutral - Assume time is 60 minutes before Commander can take over

Object is to give SAC time enough to fly over the doors of the silos and bomb the fuck out of them which fucks up the silo and prevents launch

As team leader I talked team into rejecting that Floppy because its easy enough to read what is on the disk - That was the plan - Load disk with destinations and have them all on file for loading as directed by US President. I also wanted no part of me using such crappy medium for something so critical.

So I recommended a Mechanical set of pins that did all the GEO coding for Missile - That idea was accepted and Bendix corp took on the design and damn it was one wonderful device to play with but no matter how much we tried we could never figure out how to read the program which is exactly what we needed.

Base commander could still decide to launch on own but had no clue where the Missile wood go because grabbing a block of metal from the safe - No readable information - No clue where it wood end up

I got out of military anything in design after that cause Mill Spec design means using technology very very OLD - NOTHING Cutting edge can be used in any Military product. I moved on to where the only thing allowed was cutting edge or beyond - Invent it today and use it tomorrow - In Mil spec design - Use parts that are 8 years old and tested and approved
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