Topic: Hillary Clinton still won the popular vote.
Anonymous A started this discussion 10 years ago #57,167
She is now 1.7 million votes ahead of Donald Trump.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/11/20/hillary_clinton_s_popular_vote_lead_increases_to_almost_1_7_million.html
lol
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/11/20/hillary_clinton_s_popular_vote_lead_increases_to_almost_1_7_million.html
lol
WSD !m2cp3rR5zw joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later[^] [v] #735,226
That sucks. Shouldn't have left flyoverville then
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 14 minutes later, 15 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #735,235
Too bad America is a republic rather than a democracy, eh?
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 5 minutes later, 21 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #735,237
Popular vote?
Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 23 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #735,239
@previous (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
Most votes overall. Trump won without it because his votes were spread out in a way that he won more states.
As I understand, losing the election but getting the popular vote is rare in US elections.
Most votes overall. Trump won without it because his votes were spread out in a way that he won more states.
As I understand, losing the election but getting the popular vote is rare in US elections.
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Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 26 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #735,242
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 11 hours later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #735,374
Fuck that electoral college voting bs. This is why I don't vote.
bu skg joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 12 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #735,377
@735,239 (Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx)
> As I understand, losing the election but getting the popular vote is rare in US elections.
lol
> As I understand, losing the election but getting the popular vote is rare in US elections.
lol
dw joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 18 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #735,378
Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 10 years ago, 2 hours later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #735,395
@previous (dw)
That seems rare to me. They've had like 40-something Presidential elections, I think.
That seems rare to me. They've had like 40-something Presidential elections, I think.
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dw replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #735,398
@previous (Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx)
7 out of 45 presidents is 15% seems like a pretty major issue to me
7 out of 45 presidents is 15% seems like a pretty major issue to me
bu skg replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #735,401
@735,395 (Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx)
twice in 16 years and 2 exceptionally shitty presidents
doesn't matter if it hasn't happened before it's happening now lol
twice in 16 years and 2 exceptionally shitty presidents
doesn't matter if it hasn't happened before it's happening now lol
Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 10 years ago, 36 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #735,406
@735,398 (dw)
I didn't say it wasn't a major issue when it does happen, just that it was a rare occurrence.
I didn't say it wasn't a major issue when it does happen, just that it was a rare occurrence.
dw replied with this 10 years ago, 35 seconds later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #735,407
Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 10 years ago, 34 seconds later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #735,408
dw replied with this 10 years ago, 37 seconds later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #735,409
Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 10 years ago, 6 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #735,411
@previous (dw)
It still fits the dictionary definition of "rare", which is simply described as something that doesn't occur very often. Granted, that's open to some interpretation, but I feel that something happening less that a fifth of the time could safely be called rare.
It still fits the dictionary definition of "rare", which is simply described as something that doesn't occur very often. Granted, that's open to some interpretation, but I feel that something happening less that a fifth of the time could safely be called rare.
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Syntax joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 36 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #735,428
@735,378 (dw)> It has happened seven times!
You need to check your memory or your sauces.
http://www.factcheck.org/2008/03/presidents-winning-without-popular-vote/
Q: How many times was a president elected who did not win the popular vote?
A: It has happened four times. *When official it will be 5 - Official takes tyme
FULL ANSWER
The 2000 election was the most recent when the candidate who received the greatest number of electoral votes, and thus won the presidency, didn’t win the popular vote. But this scenario has played out in our nation’s history before.
In 1824, John Quincy Adams was elected president despite not winning either the popular vote or the electoral vote. Andrew Jackson was the winner in both categories. Jackson received 38,000 more popular votes than Adams, and beat him in the electoral vote 99 to 84. Despite his victories, Jackson didn’t reach the majority 131 votes needed in the Electoral College to be declared president. In fact, neither candidate did. The decision went to the House of Representatives, which voted Adams into the White House.
In 1876, Rutherford B. Hayes won the election (by a margin of one electoral vote), but he lost the popular vote by more than 250,000 ballots to Samuel J. Tilden.
In 1888, Benjamin Harrison received 233 electoral votes to Grover Cleveland’s 168, winning the presidency. But Harrison lost the popular vote by more than 90,000 votes.
In 2000, George W. Bush was declared the winner of the general election and became the 43rd president, but he didn’t win the popular vote either. Al Gore holds that distinction, garnering about 540,000 more votes than Bush. However, Bush won the electoral vote, 271 to 266.
Update, Nov. 11: As of today, Hillary Clinton is ahead in the popular vote for the 2016 presidential election, while Donald Trump won the electoral college. However, states are still counting votes. We will update this story once the results are official.
Sauces
Office of the Federal Register, U.S. National Archives and Records Administration Web site, 2000 Presidential Election: Electoral Vote Totals, 12 March 2008
Office of the Federal Register, U.S. National Archives and Records Administration Web site, 2000 Presidential Election: Popular Vote Totals, 12 March 2008
Office of the Federal Register, U.S. National Archives and Records Administration Web site, Historical Election Results: 1789-2004 Presidential Elections, 12 March 2008
A: It has happened four times. *When official it will be 5 - Official takes tyme
FULL ANSWER
The 2000 election was the most recent when the candidate who received the greatest number of electoral votes, and thus won the presidency, didn’t win the popular vote. But this scenario has played out in our nation’s history before.
In 1824, John Quincy Adams was elected president despite not winning either the popular vote or the electoral vote. Andrew Jackson was the winner in both categories. Jackson received 38,000 more popular votes than Adams, and beat him in the electoral vote 99 to 84. Despite his victories, Jackson didn’t reach the majority 131 votes needed in the Electoral College to be declared president. In fact, neither candidate did. The decision went to the House of Representatives, which voted Adams into the White House.
In 1876, Rutherford B. Hayes won the election (by a margin of one electoral vote), but he lost the popular vote by more than 250,000 ballots to Samuel J. Tilden.
In 1888, Benjamin Harrison received 233 electoral votes to Grover Cleveland’s 168, winning the presidency. But Harrison lost the popular vote by more than 90,000 votes.
In 2000, George W. Bush was declared the winner of the general election and became the 43rd president, but he didn’t win the popular vote either. Al Gore holds that distinction, garnering about 540,000 more votes than Bush. However, Bush won the electoral vote, 271 to 266.
Update, Nov. 11: As of today, Hillary Clinton is ahead in the popular vote for the 2016 presidential election, while Donald Trump won the electoral college. However, states are still counting votes. We will update this story once the results are official.
Sauces
Office of the Federal Register, U.S. National Archives and Records Administration Web site, 2000 Presidential Election: Electoral Vote Totals, 12 March 2008
Office of the Federal Register, U.S. National Archives and Records Administration Web site, 2000 Presidential Election: Popular Vote Totals, 12 March 2008
Office of the Federal Register, U.S. National Archives and Records Administration Web site, Historical Election Results: 1789-2004 Presidential Elections, 12 March 2008
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