Topic: howdy y'all, this is Jubilee Starshine from the past
Jubilee Starshine started this discussion 10 years ago #57,140
i'm just checking in on the election. it was causing me a bunch of anxiety over the thought of trump winning so i'm in the middle of a quantum time trip to your time to find out the results so i can rest easy. how much does she win by, the polls have her way, way ahead? she doesn't carry texas does she?(Edited 9 seconds later.)
Jubilee Starshine joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 28 minutes later[^] [v] #734,924
Jubilee Starshine (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 9 minutes later, 38 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #734,926
what have you people done!?Sheila LaBoof joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 39 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #734,927
no news is good news
FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 17 minutes later, 57 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #734,930
Jubilee Starshine (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 23 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #734,936
@previous (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
what even happened? what am i supposed to tell everyone in the past. no one's going to believe this.
what even happened? what am i supposed to tell everyone in the past. no one's going to believe this.
Jubilee Starshine replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #734,938
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 40 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #734,941
@734,936 (Jubilee Starshine)
> what even happened? what am i supposed to tell everyone in the past. no one's going to believe this.
I'm two weeks in the future, and I haven't even sobered up enough to figure out how fucked up this all is. I don't even believe it yet.
> what even happened? what am i supposed to tell everyone in the past. no one's going to believe this.
I'm two weeks in the future, and I haven't even sobered up enough to figure out how fucked up this all is. I don't even believe it yet.
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Sheila LaBoof replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #734,942
fuck it, everyone get out on the streets, no pants
Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 9 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #734,943
Squeegee...FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 10 years ago, 9 hours later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #734,993
@734,936 (Jubilee Starshine)
My guess is, hardcore Bernie backers took the polls for granted and didn't turn out to do their part to counterbalance the reliable, more republican leaning older voting crowd.
My guess is, hardcore Bernie backers took the polls for granted and didn't turn out to do their part to counterbalance the reliable, more republican leaning older voting crowd.
Jubilee Starshine (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #734,995
@734,938 (Jubilee Starshine)http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/17/politics/house-oversight-democrat-investigate-russia/
http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/306331-nsa-head-dnc-hack-a-conscious-effort-by-a-nation-state-to-attempt-to
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/11/will-congress-investigate-russian-interference-2016-campaign
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/10/12/politics/florida-election-hack/index.html
holy fuck, you were right
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Metæ !goTRUMPlbg joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 16 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #734,999
> Russian hackers interfering with our democracy
> Leaked DNC/Podesta emails reveal nothing
Pick one.
> Leaked DNC/Podesta emails reveal nothing
Pick one.
Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 10 years ago, 5 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #735,000
@previous (Metæ !goTRUMPlbg)
...It's actually both. While there was valuable information in those emails, Russia clearly did it to influence the US election to their own ends.
...It's actually both. While there was valuable information in those emails, Russia clearly did it to influence the US election to their own ends.
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Jubilee Starshine (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #735,001
@previous (Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx)i have to go back and warn everyone. try to stop this from happening.
Jubilee Starshine replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #735,002
@previous (Jubilee Starshine)have fun when you shoot JFK you stupid knee-jerk reactionary
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Jubilee Starshine (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #735,003
@previous (Jubilee Starshine)i'm not going to shoot JFK you dumb bitch. but if i go back and stop Oswald then maybe none of this even happens. get fucked tranny.
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #735,004
@734,999 (Metæ !goTRUMPlbg)
> > Russian hackers interfering with our democracy
> > Leaked DNC/Podesta emails reveal nothing
> Pick one.
dude it's not a nose
> > Russian hackers interfering with our democracy
> > Leaked DNC/Podesta emails reveal nothing
> Pick one.
dude it's not a nose
Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 10 years ago, 6 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #735,005
@734,999 (Metæ !goTRUMPlbg)
Meta, if I may say so, this seems to be at odds with your normal opinion on foreign intervention. I mean, if America sends troops to the Middle East or Hillary says she wants to influence a Middle Eastern election, you decry it as immoral and shortsighted whatever their supposed motivation.
But here, when Russia has intervened in foreign affairs for transparent personal gain, you don't seem to mind at all. And even seem to praise them for doing it.
Meta, if I may say so, this seems to be at odds with your normal opinion on foreign intervention. I mean, if America sends troops to the Middle East or Hillary says she wants to influence a Middle Eastern election, you decry it as immoral and shortsighted whatever their supposed motivation.
But here, when Russia has intervened in foreign affairs for transparent personal gain, you don't seem to mind at all. And even seem to praise them for doing it.
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Sheila LaBoof replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #735,006
@previous (Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx)
priciples don't matter, outcomes for the team matter. drug the other horses, take the air out of the balls, whatever
priciples don't matter, outcomes for the team matter. drug the other horses, take the air out of the balls, whatever
Metæ !goTRUMPlbg replied with this 10 years ago, 1 hour later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #735,037
@735,000 (Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx)
@735,005 (Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx)
I do think it's deplorable for Russia to intervene in our elections. What I was poking fun at, though, was what I see as a schizophrenic argument from pro-Hillary people that the emails reveal absolutely nothing of any consequence, but also that the Russians leaked them to turn people against Hillary. If the emails are nothing, how do they harm Hillary? I've read some of the emails and there's nothing in them. You're trying to say that the emails contain no evidence of any wrongdoing, yet releasing them damages Hillary. It doesn't make sense.
Trump once said during the election that he could shoot someone in broad daylight on 5th Avenue and not lose a single voter, and it's true. Likewise even if the emails contained Hillary's confession to killing Vince Foster and Seth Rich and laughing about Benghazi (which of course they don't), it would not sway a single Hillary supporter. I think the emails had no effect.
> you don't seem to mind at all. And even seem to praise them for doing it.
I haven't praised them for doing it. Though given our country's long tradition of interfering in other countries' elections when it suits us, it does seem like America's chickens are coming home to roost. Those who live by the sword shall die by the sword.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/10/13/the-long-history-of-the-u-s-interfering-with-elections-elsewhere/
@735,005 (Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx)
I do think it's deplorable for Russia to intervene in our elections. What I was poking fun at, though, was what I see as a schizophrenic argument from pro-Hillary people that the emails reveal absolutely nothing of any consequence, but also that the Russians leaked them to turn people against Hillary. If the emails are nothing, how do they harm Hillary? I've read some of the emails and there's nothing in them. You're trying to say that the emails contain no evidence of any wrongdoing, yet releasing them damages Hillary. It doesn't make sense.
Trump once said during the election that he could shoot someone in broad daylight on 5th Avenue and not lose a single voter, and it's true. Likewise even if the emails contained Hillary's confession to killing Vince Foster and Seth Rich and laughing about Benghazi (which of course they don't), it would not sway a single Hillary supporter. I think the emails had no effect.
> you don't seem to mind at all. And even seem to praise them for doing it.
I haven't praised them for doing it. Though given our country's long tradition of interfering in other countries' elections when it suits us, it does seem like America's chickens are coming home to roost. Those who live by the sword shall die by the sword.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/10/13/the-long-history-of-the-u-s-interfering-with-elections-elsewhere/
Jubilee Starshine (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 43 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #735,055
@previous (Metæ !goTRUMPlbg)
the reason it's concerning is because it means america is becoming a nation that can be fucked with. when we've fucked with others, it's proved our strength. when others fuck with us it proves theirs. it's concerning, because it's proving something bad for us. it's not a matter of it being moral or ethical or good or bad to fuck with other nations. it's not about russia doing something "deplorable." it's about not being taken advantage of by others exploiting our weaknesses as a nation.
anyway, justifying attacks against this nation is a non starter for conversation, citizen. where is your mother fucking patriotism? your party was advantaged by an attack against this nation by our enemies and so all you have to say about it is "chickens coming home to roost?" dude. no. we were fucking attacked. and it might not just have been emails that were hacked either, as the vote is continuing to be counted there are signs that something more may be wrong. she is the clear winner everywhere they are counting paper ballots, but electronic submissions are widely going to trump. there could have been way more then just some hacked e-mails leaked. there needs to be an investigation into what happened. period. even if it had, as you say, no effect. they did it and maybe next time russian meddling will accomplish something.
it is fucking stupid to ignore this problem, say "oh well that's what we get," and go along with it JUST BECAUSE YOUR SIDE FUCKING BENEFITS FROM IT.
the reason it's concerning is because it means america is becoming a nation that can be fucked with. when we've fucked with others, it's proved our strength. when others fuck with us it proves theirs. it's concerning, because it's proving something bad for us. it's not a matter of it being moral or ethical or good or bad to fuck with other nations. it's not about russia doing something "deplorable." it's about not being taken advantage of by others exploiting our weaknesses as a nation.
anyway, justifying attacks against this nation is a non starter for conversation, citizen. where is your mother fucking patriotism? your party was advantaged by an attack against this nation by our enemies and so all you have to say about it is "chickens coming home to roost?" dude. no. we were fucking attacked. and it might not just have been emails that were hacked either, as the vote is continuing to be counted there are signs that something more may be wrong. she is the clear winner everywhere they are counting paper ballots, but electronic submissions are widely going to trump. there could have been way more then just some hacked e-mails leaked. there needs to be an investigation into what happened. period. even if it had, as you say, no effect. they did it and maybe next time russian meddling will accomplish something.
it is fucking stupid to ignore this problem, say "oh well that's what we get," and go along with it JUST BECAUSE YOUR SIDE FUCKING BENEFITS FROM IT.
Jubilee Starshine replied with this 10 years ago, 14 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #735,060
Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 10 years ago, 6 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #735,062
@735,037 (Metæ !goTRUMPlbg)
I'm sure I'm onboard with the "eye for an eye" reasoning, there, but I'm glad you aren't supporting Russia's dodgy activities.
I'm sure I'm onboard with the "eye for an eye" reasoning, there, but I'm glad you aren't supporting Russia's dodgy activities.