Topic: That Scottish Bitch.
Green !BEERiVqJJw started this discussion 10 years ago #56,296
RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 12 minutes later[^] [v] #726,408
I do think it would be a shame if the UK broke up, but I can hardly blame her.
Both the UK government and EU are now outright saying that they expect a hard Brexit. A reduction in the UK's trading privileges for the sake of greater control of immigration. Ergo, the UK is expected to take a significant blow to its economy.
Scotland, overall, voted to remain. So, even if you argue that Sturgeon is just being opportunistic with this, I cannot blame her for trying to keep Scotland out of this mess.
Both the UK government and EU are now outright saying that they expect a hard Brexit. A reduction in the UK's trading privileges for the sake of greater control of immigration. Ergo, the UK is expected to take a significant blow to its economy.
Scotland, overall, voted to remain. So, even if you argue that Sturgeon is just being opportunistic with this, I cannot blame her for trying to keep Scotland out of this mess.
Alba Gal Ssempa !MLHqI35Srs joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 2 hours later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #726,415
Matriarchal and intellectually challenged simpeton like all inheritors of the terrorisrically aggressive matriarchal state in its grand plan for the instalment of matriarchal state of supremacy.
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buto joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 4 hours later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #726,435
@previous (Alba Gal Ssempa !MLHqI35Srs)
> Matriarchal and intellectually challenged simpeton like all inheritors of the terrorisrically aggressive matriarchal state in its grand plan for the instalment of matriarchal state of supremacy.
wow some more new and insightful ideas here
> Matriarchal and intellectually challenged simpeton like all inheritors of the terrorisrically aggressive matriarchal state in its grand plan for the instalment of matriarchal state of supremacy.
wow some more new and insightful ideas here
Svet !jzYkdX7lIw joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 20 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #726,449
I think Scotland leaving could be a really positive step for England. We'll have to get used to being a smaller country but I don't believe Scotland has much of a future. They will be only on the same level as Slovakia
Sheila LaBoof joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 9 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #726,451
maybe they could join ireland
RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 10 years ago, 10 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #726,452
@726,449 (Svet !jzYkdX7lIw)
Our country losing like a third of its land could be a positive thing? I'm not quite sold on the idea, unfortunately.
Our country losing like a third of its land could be a positive thing? I'm not quite sold on the idea, unfortunately.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 32 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #726,459
@previous (RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx)
No. Geographically, economically and politically isolating yourself means you will become more globally influential. It's so obvious.
No. Geographically, economically and politically isolating yourself means you will become more globally influential. It's so obvious.
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Metæ joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #726,462
@726,452 (RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx)
Canada has like 100x as much land as the UK but I would argue the UK is a more powerful country.
Canada has like 100x as much land as the UK but I would argue the UK is a more powerful country.
RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 10 years ago, 5 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #726,464
@previous (Metæ)
The key word there is "the UK", which, if hypothetical Scottish referendum succeeded, would lose a big chunk of its land and economic assets. Canada wouldn't also be taking such a hit, so it's not exactly a fair comparison.
@726,459 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Ha, thanks. I chuckled.
These days, it feels like gallows humour is all one has when it comes to UK politics.
The key word there is "the UK", which, if hypothetical Scottish referendum succeeded, would lose a big chunk of its land and economic assets. Canada wouldn't also be taking such a hit, so it's not exactly a fair comparison.
@726,459 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Ha, thanks. I chuckled.
These days, it feels like gallows humour is all one has when it comes to UK politics.
RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx double-posted this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #726,468
I should point out that a round of polls going back to July this year all predicted that a second Scottish independence referendum would result in a second No victory:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposed_second_Scottish_independence_referendum#Opinion_polling
However, with the Tory cabinet and EU leaders both indicating that they're going for a hard Brexit, the situation might've changed enough to influence the polls. I'm eagerly awaiting a round of October polls to examine this.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposed_second_Scottish_independence_referendum#Opinion_polling
However, with the Tory cabinet and EU leaders both indicating that they're going for a hard Brexit, the situation might've changed enough to influence the polls. I'm eagerly awaiting a round of October polls to examine this.
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Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 10 years ago, 28 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #726,480
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 21 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #726,636
@726,468 (RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx)
Hard brexit will kill the union
And leavers will continue blaming everything but themselves and will never admit they had been hoodwinked.
Hard brexit will kill the union
And leavers will continue blaming everything but themselves and will never admit they had been hoodwinked.
RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 10 years ago, 14 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #726,638
@previous (I)
There's a chance it will, but I wouldn't totally assume so. Just leaving the UK and joining the EU wouldn't be a straightforward matter. Spain is against letting Scotland in, as they're afraid of their own secessionist element being emboldened. At least one EU person also commented that the EU didn't want a "mini-UK" joining, and said that Scotland would have to adopt the Euro and Schengen Zone if they joined, which might be unpopular with Scots.
Anyway, you're right in that a lot of the leavers are very dedicated to their cause. They want that border control, and it seems that they don't mind the UK economy taking a knife to the gut to get it.
There's a chance it will, but I wouldn't totally assume so. Just leaving the UK and joining the EU wouldn't be a straightforward matter. Spain is against letting Scotland in, as they're afraid of their own secessionist element being emboldened. At least one EU person also commented that the EU didn't want a "mini-UK" joining, and said that Scotland would have to adopt the Euro and Schengen Zone if they joined, which might be unpopular with Scots.
Anyway, you're right in that a lot of the leavers are very dedicated to their cause. They want that border control, and it seems that they don't mind the UK economy taking a knife to the gut to get it.
Anonymous I replied with this 10 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #726,643
@previous (RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx)
What i want to know is, if they leave, i will be allowed to use my status as UK citizen to apply for Scottish passport?
What i want to know is, if they leave, i will be allowed to use my status as UK citizen to apply for Scottish passport?
Metæ replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #726,645
@726,638 (RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx)
Leave supporters might have different priorities. That for them, an extra 1% GDP growth isn't necessarily the most important thing in life, but things like preserving the nation's culture, sovereignty, and independence have value too.
Leave supporters might have different priorities. That for them, an extra 1% GDP growth isn't necessarily the most important thing in life, but things like preserving the nation's culture, sovereignty, and independence have value too.
Anonymous I replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #726,646
RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 10 years ago, 22 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #726,647
@726,643 (I)
I imagine you would need to have lived in Scotland for a while to do that. Or marry a Scottish person.
I dunno, honestly. You could try writing a letter to Nicola Sturgeon to ask.
I imagine you would need to have lived in Scotland for a while to do that. Or marry a Scottish person.
I dunno, honestly. You could try writing a letter to Nicola Sturgeon to ask.
Anonymous I replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #726,649
Metæ replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #726,650
@726,646 (I)
I see a lot of who pay extra (on purpose) for "fair trade" goods or organic foods, or stuff with a lower carbon footprint. For these people there's more important things than just buying the cheapest stuff.
Brexit voters might be the same way. There might be more important things to them than GDP.
I see a lot of who pay extra (on purpose) for "fair trade" goods or organic foods, or stuff with a lower carbon footprint. For these people there's more important things than just buying the cheapest stuff.
Brexit voters might be the same way. There might be more important things to them than GDP.
Anonymous I replied with this 10 years ago, 17 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #726,658
@previous (Metæ)
I don't think you realize how expensive things are in the UK, which is okay but it really is quite expensive
A friend from the rich part of OC warned me before i visited that things were expensive buy stuff was cheaper than in Britain!
I don't think you realize how expensive things are in the UK, which is okay but it really is quite expensive
A friend from the rich part of OC warned me before i visited that things were expensive buy stuff was cheaper than in Britain!
Metæ replied with this 10 years ago, 21 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #726,673
RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #726,675
RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx double-posted this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #726,676
@726,645 (Metæ)
Sovereignty is an interesting issue. Leaving the EU was all about getting sovereignty back to the British Parliament.
But now that Parliament is pushing for input into the Brexit process? The Leavers are adamantly against Parliament having an opinion.
Sovereignty is an interesting issue. Leaving the EU was all about getting sovereignty back to the British Parliament.
But now that Parliament is pushing for input into the Brexit process? The Leavers are adamantly against Parliament having an opinion.
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Anonymous I replied with this 10 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #726,684
Green !BEERiVqJJw (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 4 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #726,781
What would happen to names like Britain and UK if Scotland became independent? Would Britain just consist of England and Wales? Would we be called K?
dw joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 22 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #726,990
Anonymous I replied with this 10 years ago, 7 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #727,093
@726,781 (Green !BEERiVqJJw)
Great Britain is the name of our island in the series of islands called the British Isles.
The United Kingdom is the name of our state, we would be called the United Kingdom of England, Wales and Northern Ireland.
Great Britain is the name of our island in the series of islands called the British Isles.
The United Kingdom is the name of our state, we would be called the United Kingdom of England, Wales and Northern Ireland.