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Topic: This mathematics problem is pissing me the fuck off.

Catherine !TGirlYJKXM started this discussion 10 years ago #56,160

Determine the slope between the points (4c - d, a + b) and (c - 2d, a - b).


I know I have to combine like terms since this is one of those dumb letter problems, but what the fuck, how do I find the slope?

Sheila LaBoof joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later[^] [v] #725,149

slope is ratio of difference of y values to difference of x values
find differece of y values (a+b)-(a-b)
find difference of x values (4c-d)-(c-2d)
make ratio

Catherine !TGirlYJKXM (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 7 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #725,152

@previous (Sheila LaBoof)
Isn't the formula "m = y subset 2 - y subset 1 over x subset 1 - y subset 1" ?

So isn't the (4c-d)-(c-2d) backwards?

Green !BEERiVqJJw joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 11 minutes later, 18 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #725,154

Pi.

Sheila LaBoof replied with this 10 years ago, 12 seconds later, 18 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #725,155

@725,152 (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
doesn't matter which point you want to name #1 and which you name #2
it works either way because of how positives and negatives behave, example what if differeces were (-1)/(-2) instead of 1/2 because you labelled the points the other way around? same answer regardless.

Catherine !TGirlYJKXM (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 20 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #725,156

@previous (Sheila LaBoof)
The homework wants it done a specific way so I presume it wants me to label it the way I did due to the example in the book.

Sheila LaBoof replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 25 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #725,158

@previous (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
still won't matter to the end result, and they shouldn't give a shit if they have any understanding of the subject themselves

-don't forget to eliminate the brackets and collect like terms
> Isn't the formula "m = y subset 2 - y subset 1 over x subset 1 - y subset 1"
just checking: you mean y2 - y1 over x2 - x1 don't you?

(Edited 4 minutes later.)

Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 48 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #725,174

@OP
> how do I find the slope?

Try east Asia.

Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 9 hours later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #725,304

@previous (D)
what?

Syntax joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 3 hours later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #725,350

I dont ever do anyones homework n time for sleep so I have some Ocean a Blue time in am


So to add
Sheila says

> -don't forget to eliminate the brackets and collect like terms

So I will add my sage advice to the problem you are tryin to solve

You start by ritting down the equation

Then YOU ALWAYS Simplify that Equation

Each step along the way remember to Simply that Equation - Go slow and go step by step and it gets easy it really does IF U go S L O W and Simplify

Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 30 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #725,353

@725,304 (E)
You'll find a slope there

chili dog !!81dzJNNYL joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 45 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #725,354

@725,152 (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
no it is "rise over run", so it is y2 - y1/x2-x1
so it would be (a - b - (a + b))/(c - 2d - (4c - d))
a - b - a - b = 0
c - 2d - 4c + d = -d - 3c
0/(-d - 3c)

(Edited 1 minute later.)

Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 19 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #725,355

@previous (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
I think I'd check your math there...

Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 8 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #725,453

@725,354 (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
Subtracting b twice in the numerator would result in -2b and not zero.

Once you multiply by -1/-1 it should probably look like: 2b/3c+d

Sheila LaBoof replied with this 10 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #725,459

kind of a silly question, the way they complicate matters by not giving just numbers as the coordinates of the points
-it would be useful to demonstrate why we would express the coordinates in such a way in the first place, say because the points represent something that depends on some specific parameters for some reason

Syntax joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 33 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #725,466

@previous (Sheila LaBoof)
Don't no if you have studied Matrix Math?
I think but cannot remember - I think it was the first time I encountered a Math problem that could not end up with a Solution.

And its common with Matrix Math for even linear problems to end up without a Solution or One exact Solution OR and this happens more often to me than NOT - To many Solutions some of which may be useful in one of many other dimensions and one plugs away until one finds a Solution that works in our dimension.

One by the way can end up with infinitely many solutions. Non linear problems and Matrix problems with orthogonal vectors or in my slice of Electronics Engineering one hopes all the vectors are orthogonal, because one no's many are not and many are so one digs and digs to come up with complex computations that can deal with what we want to look like noise all of the time but of course its more signal then noise or its a call drop or bank balance fucked up.

Rambles and ready to roll out and climb under my breadboard set up and diddle with mechanical filters designed with Matrix Math and Mechanical as in machined parts because any attempt at solving the problems with CPU is still waiting for a huge jump in speed of CPU's and its going to be 2021 before such exists.

chili dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #725,467

@725,355 (I)
@725,453 (J)
oh, duh. oops.
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