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I am in SO Work Total Overload n attempt to stay out of Real Clear Politics cause I get so bogged down in the REAL Details.

Yet your Topic made me do it. gatewaypunditfullofbullshitcrap.com

Fox News LOLOLOLOLOL

RCP when looking at Battleground States that COUNT towards the real bottom line ELECTORAL VOTES

Florida n Pennsylvanian - This is the reason RCP still shows CLINTON OUT THERE IN FRONT of Nazi Commie White Racist Ku Klux Klan Trump

And of course Clinton on RCP is still SO FUCKING FAR OUT FRONT in the Polls that COUNT

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/10/which-polls-fared-best-and-worst-in-the-2012-presidential-race/?_r=0

The same holds true for 2008 as there are Polls that are accurate year after year and polls that are Shit year after year. 2004? Ya bet cha

PPP (D) 9/27 - 9/28 933 LV 3.2 Clinton 49 Trump 45 Clinton +4

The Most Recent Polls since the Debate that also have a track record of ACCURACY and Clinton does even MORE BETTER at +6 and I will leave it up 2U to actually go to RCP n C 4 self

eye on the other hand have to dress2 impress and go 2 a meeting and watch execs from Verizon try to bribe me - Hey if its enough to impress my wallet? No clue but one can only hope

OH and Romney OP Remember Romney 2012? He did SO MUCH MORE BETTER on 2 Days date Then Trump is doing CURRENTLY n well Romney did not end up doing so much so good LoL

CNN just showed the NEW Battle GROUND STATES - Ya OP will have to lookC 4Self cause I gots to scoot

4 new Polls and Clinton Jumps UP UP UP Including OVER where Trump was in the Lead - Battle Ground States

Trumps Movement is truly a Bowel Movement getting ready to be Flushed.

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Trump says he loves to read the Polls. Now at least he No's he lost the debate

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The best thing about Trump supporters is when he is getting crushed in the polls, they claim the polls and media are all biased against Trump, and then when he is doing well (meaning not doing much better than tied) they grossly exaggerate what the polls say, as if when he's winning they suddenly hecome incredibly reliable.

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@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
They learned from the man himself. Trump's claim that the election would probably be rigged against him exemplified this mindset.

As funny as this naked inconsistency amongst his supporters is, it's still scary to me. It's cognitive dissonance on a mass scale.

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@723,004 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Hillary said in some video to one of her special interest groups: "why aren't I 50 points ahead you might ask?" And it's true. Why isn't she? If Trump is really that bad it should not even be close. Not even within single digits.

@previous (Metæ)
Hillary is married to a popular ex president, is supported by current president, has billionaire backers who have spent millions on her. Has the backing of the FBI and leaders in social media. Has bias news reporting from huge networks like cnn bit can barely maintain a lead over a blond haired orange faced weirdo

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@previous (A)
She is a terrible candidate who people barely like more than Trump

@723,019 (Metæ)
we'll see if the election ends up with a single number difference. his campaign is floundering atm. people jumping ship, anti-endorsements from basically every major media outlet, his own words biting him majorly in the ass, plummeting support, losing battleground states.

we could be looking at a landslide for dems

@previous (Jubilee Starshine)
> people jumping ship, anti-endorsements from basically every major media outlet, his own words biting him majorly in the ass, plummeting support, losing battleground states.
All of this has been in play since the primaries. And this is it, too. Hillary has thrown everything at him. There's no more bombshells left. She has absolutely unlimited support from all non-Fox media, Bill Clinton, Barack and Michelle Obama campaigning for her and like 0-5% lead is the best she can do against literally hitler?

@previous (Metæ)
what? no, dude, the debate changed people's minds and made a lot of undecided voters pick a side. i've been leaning towards hillary for a while, but i admit i was falling for the trump mentality. i was very close to deciding to vote republican again, and then i watched the debate. he failed so spectacularly to appear presidential - and this week of damage control ain't helping - that i'm literally mad at myself for becoming bewitched.

after that train wreck of a performance from trump it's obvious he's unqualified in any way what so ever. not even remotely. i'm not the only one who was on the fence, and i'm not anymore. the debate changed things a lot. just look at what's been happening since then.

he is falling hard, you can't say it's the same as before. people have had their eyes opened.

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@previous (Jubilee Starshine)
What exactly did he do bad? He interrupted the moderator a bit, and he kept sniffling like he had a cold or something.

I mean I've watched a few of Trump's speeches, primary debates, and media appearances and Trump at the debate seemed the same as he always does. Your post makes it sound like Trump revealed some heretofore hidden dark side.

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@previous (Metæ)
he rambled incoherent word salads proving he doesn't have any kind of grasp of the job, for one. two he threw our diplomatic relations in the trash and thretened to leave them in the cold unless they pay us more is another. he showed a poor graps of everything from facts to his own temper.

you watched his responses, didn't you? or read the transcripts? sophie level word salad.

i know the alt right is desperately trying to control the narrative in their echo chamber and claiming victory and what not, but i just got done reading that he's now polling 10% behind hillary. so, now he's trailing by double digits.

i mean seriously dude, all everyone has been talking about all week was how terrible he did at the debates and how awfully he's handling the aftermath. are you even reading beyond r/the_donald?

he's been a laughing stock all week.

@723,035 (Metæ)
You say you're neutral, but you never seem to criticize or mock Trump or his supporters. Only Hillary and her's. Suspicious!

Trump is a fuckin shithead

@723,055 (Jubilee Starshine)
What's wrong with Europe chipping in more for NATO defense? According to CNN a lot of NATO countries, especially the big guys like France and Germany aren't spending the 2% of GDP on defense that the NATO treaty requires. It is basically freeloading and rich European countries should be paying their fair share.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/07/08/news/nato-summit-spending-countries/

@723,031 (Metæ)
This is probably my last reply till Sat - It IS my last reply - Limo - Yep I just sold my sole for wallet -

Prior Fox Poll vs new Fox News Poll Clinton jumps +6 and did ya look at the jumps in Battle ground states? All POST the Debate Trump said he WON LoLoL

I have more 2 much more $$ at Betfair and odds 4 me to make money has IMPROVED -

Metæ
You used to try and convince me that Nate Silver waits till very end to pick the winning margin - I think its time again for YOU 2 LookC at the Winning number he gives/gave Clinton Last Week and NOW -

Anyway ya all have a Great Evening or Morning depending on which part of the Planet U B

Trump has a very powerful friend on his side though, God. I will be praying for Trump to become president.

@723,064 (Falco Mobile !a7Q.SWNEJw)
What did you just say, Falco?

@723,068 (Metæ)
there's nothing wrong with that, trumps handling of it and threatening to not honor agreements made with allies is what's wrong.

and let's not get myopic, his threat of firing first at state naval vessels over "taunts" and his declaration that it wouldn't start a war are even more concerning than how he dismisses and throws our allies under the bus. he doesn't even know what's a lawful use of military force, he doesn't even know the definition of "act of war," becuase what he propses IS in fact an act of war.

he's dangerous, is what the debates showed ME. dangerous AND stupid AND ignorant AND a remorseless liar.

that's what the debates showed us. lots of reasons why he is unqualified. take your pick, but don't pretend it's just one thing.

@723,075 (Green !BEERiVqJJw)
Glug. No it's not. You've been reading too much output from the Robert Amsterdam propaganda mill. Robert Amsterdam is a paid political lobbyist who specializes in character assassination of politicians and movements opposed to his client. He likes to pitch himself as a "human rights activist" but he simply uses human rights as one tool in his portfolio for harassing his client's rivals. At the moment, Robert Amsterdam is being paid by Thaksin Shinawatra so everything he says and does is determined by the need to promote the interests of his client. Since both the client and the interests are very unsavory, this requires substantial prevarication and obfuscation.

Before going into what's been happening in Bangkok this year, some background is essential. Not just on Thaksin Shinawatra himself but also on Thai politics in general. Let's start with Thaksin. The man is a billionaire who made his pile getting sweetheart deal contracts from the Thai Government for work in modernizing Thai telecommunications infrastructure. He was also a Lieutenant Colonel in the Thai Police. When he first entered politics, his act was quite revolutionary. Normally a Thai political campaign consists of the candidate publishing lists of worthy people who support him. In effect, they provide lists of references that more or less state "I am a good person and can be trusted to work in your interests." People then voted for whoever paid them the most. In Thailand, it's quite possible to have a worthwhile debate on whether vote buying is wrong or not. Thaksin changed that. He conducted a western-style campaign that put a portfolio of promised policies out and invited people to judge his party on the basis of those policies. This was so different that it worked rather well. His Party became the largest in the Thai Parliament and he pushed through the items on his agenda (low cost medical care, low-interest loans for farmers and a few other things, all calculated to endear himself to the rural population - note still buying votes but wholesale rather than retail and using Government money to do it). When the next election came up, his party wasn't just the largest one, it actually had an overall majority.

This made Thaksin's real objectives critical. Thaksin is (or was) a great admirer of the Singaporean model of government and industry. He wanted to create a new Thai state in which there was a single party (controlled by him) and a single corporate entity (controlled by him). The fact that Singapore doesn't really work that way is neither here nor there. Thaksin wanted a state where there was no center of government or economic power that was outside his control. With a majority in Parliament, he set about achieving just that. Hold that thought.

Now, let's look at Thai politics. Thailand is an odd place; it's one of the few countries in the world where the political establishment openly says "we're politicians, don’t trust us." There is an ongoing presumption in the country that political shakeups should never be seen in terms of black and white. The message is to look with skepticism on political changes and to assume that all political movements are corrupt and tainted by greed and ambition. There is an assumption that all are backed by a hidden hand that is pushing a secret agenda. This is an intensely cynical view of course, and one that leaves no room to suppose that a protest is both genuine and sincere.

@723,019 (Metæ)
Increased polarization in the electorate means the floor for each candidate is probably not less than 40% in the extreme. People vote for parties, not people. That means the best she could even theoretically hope to do is something like 55-40-5 but probably closer to like 50-42-8. Also she has pretty high unfavorables thanks to being in the public eye for about 30 years dogged by scandals. Some of those were her own doing, some of them were a little more...partisan in origin, most recently the Benghazi investigation that seemed to be primarily done to bring her poll numbers down, as admitted by Kevin McCarthy.

@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
i've heard over and over that this election will be decided by undecided voters because of exactly this. our last few elections have all been squeakers, it's pretty unfair to say this one should be otherwise. going in everyone should've expected a very narrow race merely because of very even polarization.

if it ends up being a land slide for dems after, like, 15 or 20 years of squeakers it'll really say something about the current state of the republican party. i don't really expect Trump to lose that much support, but at this point i really do believe he'll lose due to losing support rather than hillary winning due to popularity. and if Trump loses enough support to declare it a land slide... that'll be really bad for republicans. but, not much of the republican base will withdraw support, they're too entrenched. it'll fall to undecided voters in swing states, so probably another squeaker.

@723,004 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)

Trumbed

@723,004 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
The polls actually were skewed though!

@previous (Meta)
Final result: Clinton +2.1
RCP: Clinton +3.2

Thats not off really at all.
@760,107 (assORted !jJEom8Ii3E)
It's like 4 am Monday morning where you live. Pls sleep.

@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)

The walking dead, had to see it. Gn.

clinton fuckin sucks and trump also fuckin sucks

i would have been a way better president, im at least smarter than donald trump which actually isnt that hard to do honestly.