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Topic: i've decided to be the first transwoman on mars

Jubilee Starshine started this discussion 10 years ago #55,878

Elon Musk gave a great presentation today about his plans for going to Mars. he even showed an early design of the crew vessel. it's huge. the whole rocket dwarfs the Saturn V that took apollo astronauts to the moon. in fact, he said the design is very much complete, meaning the actual vessel will look very much like the design shown today. they've even already begun rapid iteration on a carbon fiber fuel tank and have one that appears ready for testing. They've also finalized their design for the Raptor engine, which is 3 times more powerful than the Merlin engines on the Falcon 9. incidentally, the falcon 9 uses 9 rocket engines. the new interplanetary booster will use 42 engines. it's a real monster.

the design carries around 100 passengers, but he hopes to increase that to 200 people per trip with a larger 2.0 version of the vehicle.

his plan has a time table attached, but of course it's very loose. but he hopes to be flying the thing within 10 years. that's probably not too far fetched, since in 2002 Space X was an office with no furniture. by 2008 they'd been awarded a contract by NASA to deliver cargo to the space station. 8 years later and they are now landing their boosters, about to begin reusing them, and are building a scaled up version (the Falcon Heavy) which should be flying within a few months, actually.

since they already have the production to manufacture 300 engines a year, they definitely have the capacity to build the 42 engines they'll need. and since engines are actually done, the only thing left is to build the rocket structure and develop the Transport Vehicle. it looks like they'll begin work on that pretty soon, and should be doing flight tests and orbits at around 6 or 7 years.

his plan also called for Red Dragon missions to mars beginning with the next Hohmann transfer window in 2 about years. Red Dragon is Space X's capsule, and they want to begin sending them immediately. first to test propulsive landing on mars, and eventually to start sending initial cargo drops for eventual human use. each Red Dragon can carry around 3 tons or so. but the Interplanetary Transfer Vehicle can carry - i think he said - around 500 tons. (that might've actually been the launch weight of the whole rocket, not exactly sure what the internal payload capacity will be.)

the costs involved are going to be huge, of course, but Musk was almost selling tickets already. he's aiming to have the cost of a ticket be around $200,000 per person. right NOW it'd cost you about 20 million to spend a few days on ISS by way of Russia. the cost to put 1 kilo of non-human payload into orbit is about 20k. if i was a satellite it would cost around 1.5 million dollars to launch me into space. so he's talking about hopefully a 6 - 10 fold decrease in cost vs. traditional launches when using his Interplanetary Transport.

it's still a huge chunk of money, but honestly i won't need a house when i'm living on Mars. 200k is totally doable, and if i've got another 10-15 years to prepare for the trip, i can totally have that kind of money ready to go. which means i've made up my mind. this is now my new life ambition. i WILL be the first transexual space hooker on mars. doesn't that have a nice fucking ring to it?

Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 10 minutes later[^] [v] #722,500

http://thecircular.org/first-human-on-mars-could-be-transgender/

Jubilee Starshine (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 11 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #722,501

Externally hosted imagehere's the carbon fiber "development tank." using carbon fiber to store cryo fuel is extremely hard. it's prone to crack and leak, so for Space X to be doing this there must've been some kind of major break through. in fact in the presentation he said that it's only NOW possible because of recent advancements in the manufacturing process. but, this is the fuel tank for the space ship part - not the booster.

Jubilee Starshine (OP) double-posted this 10 years ago, 57 seconds later, 12 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #722,502

@722,500 (B)
oh yeah, the group with no rocket and a slick t-shirt business. that's going to happen....

Jubilee Starshine (OP) triple-posted this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 16 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #722,507

these images are hard to find because the presentation was today. this is a simulation of the launch. Musk said the final vessel will look very similar

Anonymous B replied with this 10 years ago, 8 seconds later, 16 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #722,508

@722,502 (Jubilee Starshine)
Easy to overcome with Kickstarter.
I used to launch mice with homemade rockets. Just upscale my kludge design for humans. I never lost a mouse because the parachutes worked and I imagine the mice ended up in psychotherapy.

Jubilee Starshine (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 7 seconds later, 16 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #722,509

Externally hosted imagethis thing

Jubilee Starshine (OP) double-posted this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 20 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #722,511

Externally hosted imagethis is the Space Ship. this is what uses that huge fuel tank, so you can kinda imagine the size. enormous. this thing will take off and land vertically, just like their boosters. it will land on mars, re-fuel, and then return to earth for a return trip. this is how he plans to bring people back. if you want, just hop on and come home. anytime. as long as there's a transfer window... about every 2 years.

Jubilee Starshine (OP) triple-posted this 10 years ago, 5 minutes later, 25 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #722,512

Externally hosted imagethis one made me gasp. it's a scale comparison to other rockets, including the Saturn V which it dwarfs. but the real shocking part is performance. the white bar represents vehicle performance in terms of fuel/payload. not only can the Mars Vehicle carry well over 1 million pounds, it does it super efficiently and with much less fuel per pound of payload.

Jubilee Starshine (OP) quadruple-posted this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 30 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #722,513

you can watch the whole presentation here:
https://youtu.be/W9olSzNOh8s

or you can watch a 5 minute super cut here:
https://youtu.be/0agVZwux1Hs

if you don't want to hear him speak and instead just want to watch the CGI animation of the vehicle watch this:
https://youtu.be/0qo78R_yYFA

Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 14 minutes later, 44 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #722,515

Spacex Boo Boo

I think I will wait until they launch 20 in a row without Boo Boo

Anonymous C double-posted this 10 years ago, 7 minutes later, 52 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #722,516

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAX7UFd70M8

3:15 minutes of very good video of Spacex back in 2015 and at 2:45 into the video a human if on board wood yes wood have turned into toast and if Rag Head wood enter Heaven for 72 Virgins and 72 mad as fuck Mother in Laws

Jubilee Starshine (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 34 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #722,520

@722,515 (C)
@previous (C)
have you no sense of adventure?

Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #722,522

But since the earth is flat, how will they do this?

Syntax replied with this 10 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #722,524

Externally hosted image@722,520 (Jubilee Starshine)
> have you no sense of adventure?
This Surf Spot aka Mavericks is located in ninjj's hood.

What you see in this photo is somewhat over my skill level and wood probably end up killing me. Many experts have died there. However I have surfed Mavericks but on Off days

I used to build a lot of small rockets but the very idea of having a huge stick of Dynamite exploding behind my Anus - Not my idea of a good time

buto joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 18 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #722,525

@722,511 (Jubilee Starshine)
return trips? wild. I would totally rather move to Mars than buy a house on earth

Syntax replied with this 10 years ago, 13 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #722,527

Watching NEWS



Elon Musk: First humans who journey to Mars must 'be prepared to die'

'It would be an incredible adventure'


"Are you prepared to die? If that's okay, then you're a candidate for going,"

Jubilee Starshine joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #722,531

@previous (Syntax)
what're you, immortal?

Syntax replied with this 10 years ago, 14 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #722,535

@previous (Jubilee Starshine)
@previous (Jubilee Starshine)
> what're you, immortal?
Yes of course. Because of the conservation of energy, personal immortality must be real (or at least possible). The basic line of reasoning is... I am human composed of matter/energy. Energy cannot be destroyed, so I will exist forever. May have a little issue with how I will continue to drink
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