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Anonymous A started this discussion 10 years ago#55,450
Hello everyone. I have always considered myself a 100% heterosexual male, yet recently I have been having gay thoughts. Can you just wake up and become gay?
Anonymous D replied with this 10 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#717,555
@previous (C)
Because you stated something which would appear to be completely unverifiable. How do you know what sexual urges a guy felt almost 150 years ago in a time when openly talking or writing about such urges can - and indeed in his case, did - land you in jail? You think Wilde arrived at the US border and announced "I have nothing to declare except that I'm raging faggot!"
That's why a citation is needed.
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 52 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#717,557
Anonymous C replied with this 10 years ago, 25 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^][v]#717,721
@717,555 (D) > How do you know what sexual urges a guy felt almost 150 years ago in a time when openly talking or writing about such urges can - and indeed in his case, did - land you in jail?
Very simple - you read his private correspondence, in which he discusses how he was married with one child and a second on the way when he "discovered" an attraction to teenaged males. Considering how much you know about his life and misfortunes, you must have read his letters and documents at some point.
Anonymous E replied with this 10 years ago, 5 hours later, 17 hours after the original post[^][v]#717,802
> Considering how much you know about his life and misfortunes, you must have read his letters and documents at some point.
Yes I have, which is why I'm asking for a citation because I have absolutely no idea where you're getting this information from. At Oxford University he was already infamous for his flamboyance and was suspected of 'dabbling' in what was euphemistically known as 'Greek love'.
Don't just vaguely allude to 'private correspondence', give a specific citation please.
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 18 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#717,856
@previous (D)
I'm going to have to give you a citation for a high level of butthurt
FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 7 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#717,900
@previous (I)
I think you meant to use this picture.
Anonymous C replied with this 10 years ago, 6 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#718,003
@717,855 (D)
Dude, I'm posting on a forum, not writing an academic paper. I can't be bothered tracking down the precise reference, so feel free to believe whatever you choose.
Anonymous D replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#718,006
@previous (C)
I'm actually not doubting you, I just wondered if you had the source to hand. I love Wilde, wrote on him at university, and never came across the claim you made, so I wanted to read it. If you don't have it, no biggie.
Green !BEERiVqJJw (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 1 month later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#725,458
Bump.
Syntax joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 14 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#725,462
Robert Ross had read Wilde's poems before they met, and was unrestrained by the Victorian prohibition against homosexuality, even to the extent of estranging himself from his family. By Richard Ellmann's account, he was a precocious seventeen-year-old "so young and yet so knowing, was determined to seduce Wilde" According to Daniel Mendelsohn, Wilde, who had long alluded to Greek love, was "initiated into homosexual sex" by Ross, while his "marriage had begun to unravel after his wife's second pregnancy, which left him physically repelled"
Probably not the final word on this but at least Someone here took the tyme for a quick search 4 truth justice n the American way
Anonymous D replied with this 10 years ago, 16 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#725,465
@previous (Syntax)
I already don't give a shit, this is a concern from a month ago.
Syntax replied with this 10 years ago, 12 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#725,468
@previous (D)
Yo I have work to do and need to hit the road and crawl under racks of stuff
ALL I no is Green did the bump and there was a challenge and no one here tried to look up any answer. I like doing such because each time I learn something new.