Kiernynn Grantham-Crum is starting college this fall at UC Berkeley to study programming with the goal of one day landing a job in Silicon Valley.
Like many, the new high school grad is nervous about building skills coveted by the tech industry. One piece of prep that may pay off: a summer camp in San Francisco that helps gay, transgender and questioning students get comfortable with tech.
The hope is, “as long as you write good code, as long as you make good hardware, it doesn’t really matter who your partner is, what you identify as," says Grantham-Crum, 17, who identifies as transgender pansexual.
Grantham-Crum belongs to an increasingly visible, though still small, group in tech: people who identify as transwomen, transmen, genderqueer, non-binary and intersex.
The tech industry has a track record of championing gay rights, especially in the San Francisco Bay Area. Some transgender workers in technology say they find the industry's flexibility about appearance and sexual orientation welcoming.
Yet they confront disparity in treatment and pay, according to a recent survey and interviews, and their experiences can still be marginalized in the broader gay rights conversations.
Policies and public statements are closely tied with the industry's ultra competitive fight for new talent.
“Companies that aren’t actively recruiting and figuring out how to be inclusive around the needs of transgender employees are missing a huge part of the talent pool,” Nicole Sanchez, GitHub’s vice president of social impact.
GitHub says nearly 2% of its employees identify as trans.
beckyderp !Hi.HILLARY (OP) double-posted this 10 years ago, 1 minute later[^][v]#716,744
Also:
GitHub's Sanchez said she noticed the way tech can add an added layer of protection and authenticity for transgender people by watching her children, who identify as gender queer, interact with it. Using computers, they can say what they really mean without fearing for their safety or worrying about being stared at.
How do you end up with multiple gender queer kids? Are you trying for gender queers at that point??
beckyderp !Hi.HILLARY (OP) triple-posted this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 4 minutes after the original post[^][v]#716,746
Parenting tip of the day: tell your 17-year-old it would be a great and liberating experience to come out as a fucking pansexual in a major newspaper. There will be no negative repercussions whatsoever!!
DasSheeple joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 24 seconds later, 5 minutes after the original post[^][v]#716,747
I wanted to write "kill it before it lays eggs" but Sanchez already has children who identify as gender queer... we lost this one.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 8 minutes later, 13 minutes after the original post[^][v]#716,752
I mean if she looks like that it's not exactly "coming out" right. No hetero woman dresses like that. People would think she's at least half gay even without this article. The 2% trans thing is lol. It's like 5-10x above the actual % but I guess these thighs are kinda self selecting. If you're a factory worker or a miner or something youre probably less likely to be transgender or open about it. Tech companies are all accepting and high paying and shit. It's pretty gay tbh.
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Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU double-posted this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 15 minutes after the original post[^][v]#716,753
Also where is my article. I at least have an actual job and college degree, not just aspirations. Why am I not newsworthy???
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brie !kGoudaMCFA joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 18 minutes after the original post[^][v]#716,756
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
You have to be a pansexual transgender person with job aspirations to be newsworthy these days.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 20 minutes after the original post[^][v]#716,757
@previous (brie !kGoudaMCFA)
Ok since sexual orientation is a choice now that we lied and said it wasn't to get gays the right to marry, I hereby choose to be transgender and pansexual and I am looking for a job. Newspaper should be calling any minute now.
brie !kGoudaMCFA replied with this 10 years ago, 5 minutes later, 25 minutes after the original post[^][v]#716,760
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
BREAKING NEWS: Jewish transgender pansexual boy looking for job.
悟 joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 30 minutes after the original post[^][v]#716,764
wow well why dont i get an article too then
silicon valley watch out
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 32 minutes after the original post[^][v]#716,766
@716,760 (brie !kGoudaMCFA)
Thanks. Ill need to buy some unnecessarily large and odd colored hipster glasses but once I do I'll pose for the photographer.
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Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 26 minutes later, 58 minutes after the original post[^][v]#716,778
RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#716,779
Oh. It's an article about a transgender person wanting to get a job in coding.
That's outrageous, Becky. Really shocking stuff.
Metæ joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 43 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#716,790
This sort of thing bugs me:
One piece of prep that may pay off: a summer camp in San Francisco that helps gay, transgender and questioning students get comfortable with tech.
Why do LGBTQIA people need special help to "get comfortable with tech"? Is technology harder to understand if you're gay? Is Java uncomfortable to use for transgendered people? What's the deal?
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kook !!OPZbEQMT1 joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 12 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#716,796
@716,779 (RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx)
It's outrageous because trans people are no different from other people. Why is this even a story?
kook !!OPZbEQMT1 double-posted this 10 years ago, 21 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#716,797
Metæ replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#716,800
@716,746 (beckyderp !Hi.HILLARY) > Parenting tip of the day: tell your 17-year-old it would be a great and liberating experience to come out as a fucking pansexual in a major newspaper. There will be no negative repercussions whatsoever!!
Becky I don't see any negative repercussions coming from this. We're talking the most progressive city in the most progressive state of the US in the Current Year. If anything xe's bravery will cause tech companies will fight each other to give xir a job so they can be more inclusive.
kook !!OPZbEQMT1 replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#716,801
Also people like this seek tech jobs because no one wants to be around them. They have to go for professions that don't require eye contact
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 10 years ago, 26 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#716,803
@716,790 (Metæ)
I need help getting comfortable with coding. I can't figure it out. I don't find anythibg weird about that. There are always groups that help some underrepresented minority get familiar with a subhect or field.
RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#716,805
@716,796 (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
It's a fluff piece, kook. News outlets do them all the time. You're only angry about this one because transgenders.
RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx double-posted this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#716,807
@716,801 (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
Kook here, getting nice and settled into the armchair to explain reason #257 why the trannies are awful.
Metæ replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#716,810
@716,803 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Good news! There's a summer camp opening in Williamsburg that helps that helps Orthodox, Conservative and secular Jews get comfortable with tech.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#716,811
@previous (Metæ)
Well it should be in crown heights because Williamsburg is full of hipsters now. But sounds good to me!
kook !!OPZbEQMT1 replied with this 10 years ago, 52 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#716,813
@716,805 (RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx)
If someone had made a piece that described why biracial people needed a special tech camp I would still be pissed.
Alba Gal !MLHqI35Srs joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 19 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#716,814
@716,807 (RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx)
Her heart is in the right place. Objectively speaking, transgrnders are terrible.
kook !!OPZbEQMT1 replied with this 10 years ago, 9 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#716,816
@716,807 (RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx)
They have no people skills #355
Sheila LaBoof joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#716,822
Puberty for some people is like if a perfectly nice caterpillar emerges from its cocoon as a fucked-up hideous thing.
Syntax joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#716,825
> Good news! There's a summer camp opening in Williamsburg that helps that helps Orthodox, Conservative and secular Jews get comfortable with tech.
I don't understand how an Orthodox Jew can get comfortable with Tech- They wood have to convert to Conservative or secular because they cannot even watch a TV set so a computer is out of the question
I do mean the Williamsburg Hasidim Orthodox Jews
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Metæ replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#716,827
@previous (Syntax)
I thought they just couldn't use it on Saturdays.
Svet !jzYkdX7lIw joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#716,829
@716,790 (Metæ)
They'll just end up all fucking each other and spreading aids
kook !!OPZbEQMT1 replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#716,830
Metæ replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#716,831
@716,829 (Svet !jzYkdX7lIw) @previous (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
I could see if it was a camp for autistic students to get comfortable with tech, cause they might have special needs or whatever but it implies LGBTQIA students have trouble understanding technology.
kook !!OPZbEQMT1 replied with this 10 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#716,836
@previous (Metæ)
Yes it does. Or that they are so sensitive that adult jobs are just too stressful. Or maybe that computers are transphobic.
Syntax replied with this 10 years ago, 45 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#716,837
@716,827 (Metæ)
Truth is what I no about the Hasidic is - One my spell checker does not even recognize that word and the choice they gave me is bogus Hasidim lol
What I no comes from one of two sources -Three - TV dramas AND exgf who's exhusband became one which drove her to be an Ex and I did get to no him in court cases over his daughter and complications on our relationship - Court always sided with me and my gf - and one gal I dated who almost married a Hasidic and the stories she told me
Hey shoot me a PM - I need to pass something buy you before it gets all over MC which may be very undesirable - might be a while b4 I can reply to it re work today
So it ends up depending on which Rabbie they bow down to
At the beginning of July, Belz, the second-largest Hasidic sect in Israel after the Gur Hasidim, openly declared it was connected to the Internet. The announcements the sect distributed at synagogues in its centers in Bnei Brak and Jerusalem were, in effect, an exhortation to members who need the Internet for purposes of earning a living to use the "kosher" Internet. The message was also received by the greater ultra-Orthodox world to "make the vermin kosher" on the Web - in a supervised way, of course. Thus Belz fomented a revolution, whose outcome is not yet clear.
More than 60 percent of ultra-Orthodox households have computers, but many people in the community still relate to them with suspicion. The computer has not been banned outright like television, because there is a general understanding that it is needed for people's livelihoods. "Making a living" has always been a rationale for allowing modernity to come in through the front door, even in such households. The same is true with the Internet, even though it is considered more problematic because it is potentially a link to everything that is forbidden, from pornography to apostasy.
悟 replied with this 10 years ago, 11 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#716,841
> Truth is what I no about the Hasidic is - One my spell checker does not even recognize that word and the choice they gave me is bogus Hasidim lol > What I no comes from one of two sources -Three - TV dramas AND exgf who's exhusband became one which drove her to be an Ex and I did get to no him in court cases over his daughter and complications on our relationship - Court always sided with me and my gf - and one gal I dated who almost married a Hasidic and the stories she told me > > Hey shoot me a PM - I need to pass something buy you before it gets all over MC which may be very undesirable - might be a while b4 I can reply to it re work today > > So it ends up depending on which Rabbie they bow down to > >http://www.haaretz.com/news/for-first-time-hasidic-sect-approves-limited-internet-use-1.250529 > >
For First Time, Hasidic Sect Approves Limited Internet Use > > Over 60% of ultra-Orthodox households have computers, but many still relate to them with suspicion. > read more: http://www.haaretz.com/news/for-first-time-hasidic-sect-approves-limited-internet-use-1.250529 > > At the beginning of July, Belz, the second-largest Hasidic sect in Israel after the Gur Hasidim, openly declared it was connected to the Internet. The announcements the sect distributed at synagogues in its centers in Bnei Brak and Jerusalem were, in effect, an exhortation to members who need the Internet for purposes of earning a living to use the "kosher" Internet. The message was also received by the greater ultra-Orthodox world to "make the vermin kosher" on the Web - in a supervised way, of course. Thus Belz fomented a revolution, whose outcome is not yet clear. > > More than 60 percent of ultra-Orthodox households have computers, but many people in the community still relate to them with suspicion. The computer has not been banned outright like television, because there is a general understanding that it is needed for people's livelihoods. "Making a living" has always been a rationale for allowing modernity to come in through the front door, even in such households. The same is true with the Internet, even though it is considered more problematic because it is potentially a link to everything that is forbidden, from pornography to apostasy. >
re: ex gf jews google search
Syntax replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#716,842
> > Truth is what I no about the Hasidic is - One my spell checker does not even recognize that word and the choice they gave me is bogus Hasidim lol > > What I no comes from one of two sources -Three - TV dramas AND exgf who's exhusband became one which drove her to be an Ex and I did get to no him in court cases over his daughter and complications on our relationship - Court always sided with me and my gf - and one gal I dated who almost married a Hasidic and the stories she told me > > > > Hey shoot me a PM - I need to pass something buy you before it gets all over MC which may be very undesirable - might be a while b4 I can reply to it re work today > > > > So it ends up depending on which Rabbie they bow down to > > > > http://www.haaretz.com/news/for-first-time-hasidic-sect-approves-limited-internet-use-1.250529 > > > >
For First Time, Hasidic Sect Approves Limited Internet Use > > > > Over 60% of ultra-Orthodox households have computers, but many still relate to them with suspicion. > > read more: http://www.haaretz.com/news/for-first-time-hasidic-sect-approves-limited-internet-use-1.250529 > > > > At the beginning of July, Belz, the second-largest Hasidic sect in Israel after the Gur Hasidim, openly declared it was connected to the Internet. The announcements the sect distributed at synagogues in its centers in Bnei Brak and Jerusalem were, in effect, an exhortation to members who need the Internet for purposes of earning a living to use the "kosher" Internet. The message was also received by the greater ultra-Orthodox world to "make the vermin kosher" on the Web - in a supervised way, of course. Thus Belz fomented a revolution, whose outcome is not yet clear. > > > > More than 60 percent of ultra-Orthodox households have computers, but many people in the community still relate to them with suspicion. The computer has not been banned outright like television, because there is a general understanding that it is needed for people's livelihoods. "Making a living" has always been a rationale for allowing modernity to come in through the front door, even in such households. The same is true with the Internet, even though it is considered more problematic because it is potentially a link to everything that is forbidden, from pornography to apostasy. > >
> > re: ex gf jews google search
Right?
悟 replied with this 10 years ago, 56 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#716,848
> > > Truth is what I no about the Hasidic is - One my spell checker does not even recognize that word and the choice they gave me is bogus Hasidim lol > > > What I no comes from one of two sources -Three - TV dramas AND exgf who's exhusband became one which drove her to be an Ex and I did get to no him in court cases over his daughter and complications on our relationship - Court always sided with me and my gf - and one gal I dated who almost married a Hasidic and the stories she told me > > > > > > Hey shoot me a PM - I need to pass something buy you before it gets all over MC which may be very undesirable - might be a while b4 I can reply to it re work today > > > > > > So it ends up depending on which Rabbie they bow down to > > > > > > http://www.haaretz.com/news/for-first-time-hasidic-sect-approves-limited-internet-use-1.250529 > > > > > >
For First Time, Hasidic Sect Approves Limited Internet Use > > > > > > Over 60% of ultra-Orthodox households have computers, but many still relate to them with suspicion. > > > read more: http://www.haaretz.com/news/for-first-time-hasidic-sect-approves-limited-internet-use-1.250529 > > > > > > At the beginning of July, Belz, the second-largest Hasidic sect in Israel after the Gur Hasidim, openly declared it was connected to the Internet. The announcements the sect distributed at synagogues in its centers in Bnei Brak and Jerusalem were, in effect, an exhortation to members who need the Internet for purposes of earning a living to use the "kosher" Internet. The message was also received by the greater ultra-Orthodox world to "make the vermin kosher" on the Web - in a supervised way, of course. Thus Belz fomented a revolution, whose outcome is not yet clear. > > > > > > More than 60 percent of ultra-Orthodox households have computers, but many people in the community still relate to them with suspicion. The computer has not been banned outright like television, because there is a general understanding that it is needed for people's livelihoods. "Making a living" has always been a rationale for allowing modernity to come in through the front door, even in such households. The same is true with the Internet, even though it is considered more problematic because it is potentially a link to everything that is forbidden, from pornography to apostasy. > > >
> > > > re: ex gf jews google search > > Right?
tell me about it
WSD !m2cp3rR5zw replied with this 10 years ago, 31 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#716,852
> > > > Truth is what I no about the Hasidic is - One my spell checker does not even recognize that word and the choice they gave me is bogus Hasidim lol > > > > What I no comes from one of two sources -Three - TV dramas AND exgf who's exhusband became one which drove her to be an Ex and I did get to no him in court cases over his daughter and complications on our relationship - Court always sided with me and my gf - and one gal I dated who almost married a Hasidic and the stories she told me > > > > > > > > Hey shoot me a PM - I need to pass something buy you before it gets all over MC which may be very undesirable - might be a while b4 I can reply to it re work today > > > > > > > > So it ends up depending on which Rabbie they bow down to > > > > > > > > http://www.haaretz.com/news/for-first-time-hasidic-sect-approves-limited-internet-use-1.250529 > > > > > > > >
For First Time, Hasidic Sect Approves Limited Internet Use > > > > > > > > Over 60% of ultra-Orthodox households have computers, but many still relate to them with suspicion. > > > > read more: http://www.haaretz.com/news/for-first-time-hasidic-sect-approves-limited-internet-use-1.250529 > > > > > > > > At the beginning of July, Belz, the second-largest Hasidic sect in Israel after the Gur Hasidim, openly declared it was connected to the Internet. The announcements the sect distributed at synagogues in its centers in Bnei Brak and Jerusalem were, in effect, an exhortation to members who need the Internet for purposes of earning a living to use the "kosher" Internet. The message was also received by the greater ultra-Orthodox world to "make the vermin kosher" on the Web - in a supervised way, of course. Thus Belz fomented a revolution, whose outcome is not yet clear. > > > > > > > > More than 60 percent of ultra-Orthodox households have computers, but many people in the community still relate to them with suspicion. The computer has not been banned outright like television, because there is a general understanding that it is needed for people's livelihoods. "Making a living" has always been a rationale for allowing modernity to come in through the front door, even in such households. The same is true with the Internet, even though it is considered more problematic because it is potentially a link to everything that is forbidden, from pornography to apostasy. > > > >
> > > > > > re: ex gf jews google search > > > > Right? > > tell me about it
Syntax invented porn
Alba Gal !MLHqI35Srs replied with this 10 years ago, 34 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#716,873
@716,831 (Metæ)
Contrarily, tech is all most worthless auties do
Catherine !TGirlYJKXM joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 31 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#716,887
@716,746 (beckyderp !Hi.HILLARY)
I doubt there would be much shitstorm over pansexuality on account nobody really knows what it means.
Catherine !TGirlYJKXM double-posted this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#716,888
She looks like someone I know in real life who also identifies as genderfluid. Genderfluid falls under Transgenderism much as Transsexuals do. Transgender is an umbrella term.
Alba Gal !MLHqI35Srs replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#716,889
@previous (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
No.
For me it's basically: you know you are gender dysphoric and only in the sense of a proper binary gender transition linearly and continuously without interruption or splitting of role but cannot either due to medical intransigence or safety of situation, or you're full of shit. Or, you're fully transsexual because that was resolved.
kook !!OPZbEQMT1 replied with this 10 years ago, 27 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#716,894
@716,888 (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
No it isn't. It's just people who want to feel special.
kook !!OPZbEQMT1 double-posted this 10 years ago, 22 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#716,895
Catherine !TGirlYJKXM replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#716,905
@716,894 (kook !!OPZbEQMT1)
Look it up. :-)
Be surprised.
kook !!OPZbEQMT1 replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#716,908
@previous (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
I have. It's still not a thing.
Green !BEERiVqJJw joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 42 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#716,920
I am gender fluid.
kook !!OPZbEQMT1 replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#716,921
@previous (Green !BEERiVqJJw)
You are a nice, effeminate male
Alba Gal !MLHqI35Srs replied with this 10 years ago, 10 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#716,927
@716,920 (Green !BEERiVqJJw)
Bella is the only gender fluid entity I recognise if only because she's an honest creation coming from deeper seated wish filfilment mores.
squeegee joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#716,928
you know, i think a really bad world war might actually be good for us.
Alba Gal !MLHqI35Srs replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#716,929
> you know, i think a really bad world war might actually be good for us.
Kys, the only way to maintain peacetime is to unleash the sexually suppressive fabric of society on a macrocosmic plane. All aggressive neuroses of political discourse owe themselves to sociosexual clandestinity and unnecessary suppression.
Metæ replied with this 10 years ago, 18 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#716,934
@716,928 (squeegee)
Whom would it be against? Russia and China are anti gay. Europe is even more pro LGBTQIA thab we are
Green !BEERiVqJJw replied with this 10 years ago, 6 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#716,935