Topic: Vegetarianism (without being fully vegan) is stupid.

Anonymous A started this discussion 15 years ago #5,521

Either eat meat, or stay away from animal products altogether.

Killing an animal for it's meat isn't okay, but killing it so you can wear it's skin is?

Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later[^] [v] #96,434

but can't it be symbiotic op?

like the cow gets milked but he also gets taken care of. No predators, and all the grass he wants and the farmer gets a profit

i dunno if I agree or disagree with you, but i am playing devil's advocate.

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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 40 minutes later, 48 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #96,466

@previous (B)
Many animal byproducts are the result of very mistreated cows, and many involve killing them.

Cows raised for meat are treated better than cows raised for leather.

Most cows raised for their milk do not get to move around much.

PlayingAlong !GEnY2rC71s joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 12 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #96,489

This is exactly why i don't eat vegetables.

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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #96,493

@previous (PlayingAlong !GEnY2rC71s)
The mistreatment of vegetables is atrocious.

dreaaa mworks joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 15 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #96,508

I agree. I just think we should eat far less meat, though.

TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #96,509

Hi, I'm the sheep and I'm vegan.

I don't kill animals to eat them, instead, I eat their food so they starve to death. Have a nice day.

The new "Troll Me Elmo" doll joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 14 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #96,510

@OP
> implying all people who are vegetarians do so to save the animals

Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 12 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #96,522

@96,466 (A)

i agree with you but i dont think it always is the case. it is possible to be ethical about taking milk or eggs; i don't think it is possible to be ethical about killing them.

Bobby2Sox !dinhUJfbqA joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 12 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #96,529

The humanbeing isa carnivore.i am designed to eat and digestmeat. moral values dont' enter in to it other than in termsof whichmeat...the vicarsaid i had to giveup eating babies.

Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #96,530

I'm a vegetarian.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 10 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #96,532

@96,529 (Bobby2Sox !dinhUJfbqA)

> The humanbeing isa carnivore.
omnivore*
> i am designed to eat and digestmeat. moral values dont' enter in to it other than in termsof whichmeat...the vicarsaid i had to giveup eating babies.
Capability doesn't override morals. You are capable of murder, theft, and rape, it doesn't mean you should. Many people passed down their genes by raping, took out competition with murder, and lived healthier thanks to theft. We are genetically "designed" to be selfish.

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Bobby2Sox !dinhUJfbqA replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,540

Thats a completelyfalse argument andyuo know it. Go tell it to alion.up realclose if possible.

Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 30 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,553

> Killing an animal for it's meat isn't okay, but killing it so you can wear it's skin is?
A vegetarian isn't someone who wears animal skin, and a vegan isn't someone who doesn't.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,581

@previous (I)

> A vegetarian isn't someone who wears animal skin
A vegetarian is someone who does not eat animal meat. If you are morally opposed to it, why limit yourself to abstaining from meat? Vegetarianism is half-assism.
> and a vegan isn't someone who doesn't.
Yes they are. Veganism is more than just a diet. A vegan does not use leather, or any other animal by-products.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veganism
> Veganism is the practice of eliminating the use by human beings of non-human animal products. Ethical vegans reject the commodity status of animals and the use of animal products for any purpose, while dietary vegans or strict vegetarians eliminate them from their diet only.

henn !ksfzGo9XsI joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 6 days later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #102,142

Bump

totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #102,159

Some people are vegetarian for health reasons.

Minichan