Topic: Attention all MC users. Your Saviour Donald Trump is in trouble and needs your help
Anonymous A started this discussion 10 years ago#55,114
Donald Trump and his new team think they have 71 days to turn this campaign around. They’re wrong.
The Republican nominee — three months after clinching the nomination — has begun frantically trying to reposition himself in the past week, installing a new campaign manager and controversial CEO to help him escape the straitjacket that his 14 months of incendiary comments and hard-edged policy positions have him in.
His task, GOP insiders readily concede, seems close to impossible. In an interview Wednesday night, Trump’s new campaign manager, Kellyanne Conway, recognized how long it may take to improve the public’s negative perceptions of the GOP nominee, likening her turnaround project to turning a tanker.
Trump may not have that kind of time. Early voting begins in 26 days in Minnesota and in 32 other states soon after that. And already, as summer inches to its end, 90 percent of Americans say they’ve decided. For all the televised daily drama this race has provided,
the final outcome itself is shaping up to be less dramatic than any presidential election since 1984.
Editorial comment - This pisses me off because I need desperately for very high drama
“Kellyanne is good at this, but she’s got a very damaged candidate and it’s very late in the game,” said Tony Fratto, a GOP operative in Washington and former deputy press secretary to President George W. Bush. “I think it’s too late, in fact. I don’t believe he can change. All of this is trying to trick voters into thinking there is a better Donald Trump out there. There is no better Donald Trump.”
Although Trump has been seemingly slow to realize it, the more than $2 billion in free media he rode to the GOP nomination was simultaneously hardening the broader country’s negative view of Trump just as it was endearing him to the conservative base.
The cascade of Trump-created controversies following the conventions that precipitated Conway’s hiring appear to have irrevocably damaged his credibility as a plausible commander in chief and could prove to be the turning point in the general election itself.
Every dollar you donate will give Donald the incentive to fight back and we all know anyone that can build golf courses with holes made by gophers is one smart dude worthy of your attention.
Metæ joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 11 minutes later[^][v]#714,057
> Tony Fratto, a GOP operative in Washington and former deputy press secretary to President George W. Bush
I stopped reading there. Another tired Neocon #NeverTrumper. Sad!
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 16 minutes later, 27 minutes after the original post[^][v]#714,058
@previous (Metæ) > Tony Fratto is managing partner at Hamilton Place Strategies, a strategic communications and crisis management consultancy based in Washington, DC. He is also an on-air contributor on the CNBC Business News Network, addressing current economic policy issues.
Fratto served as Deputy Assistant to the President and Deputy Press Secretary to President George W. Bush from September 2006 to January 2009. In this role Fratto served as the White House’s lead spokesman and communications advisor on a broad range policy issues in support of President Bush, working directly with the President and senior White House officials, and speaking for the White House to the national press corps from the White House podium and in on-camera interviews.
Fratto represented the Bush Administration on international and domestic economic policy -- including international trade; financial markets; tax policy; banking; and international development. He also served as the White House’s lead spokesman on legal issues, Supreme Court cases, U.S. intelligence issues, terrorist financing and financial crimes.
Before moving to the White House, Fratto distinguished himself as an influential voice on economic policy during his time at the U.S. Treasury Department where he initially served as the Department’s spokesman on domestic and international finance, and international development policy, and later as the Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs, responsible for all Treasury issues. Fratto was instrumental in developing the Bush Administration’s messaging in dealing with global financial crises, currency policy, counter-terrorist finance, and tax policy. He assisted three Treasury secretaries on activities ranging from preparation for G7 finance ministers meetings to congressional testimony, interviews and speeches. Combining his work at the Treasury and the White House, Fratto directed and participated in communications efforts in visits to more than 60 countries around the world.
Before joining the Bush Administration, Fratto served as a communications specialist for the Bush-Cheney campaign. Prior to that he served as Vice President of Government Affairs for the Pittsburgh Regional Alliance, where he led successful public affairs and issue campaigns resulting in important infrastructure investments in Pennsylvania and tax reform.
Earlier in his career, he served in senior legislative and communications positions in the United States Senate, and as a political director to Pennsylvania Governor Tom Ridge. And as Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs at the Department of Treasury.
Former Bush spokesman Tony Fratto: “For the thick-headed: #NeverTrump means never ever ever ever ever under any circumstances as long as I have breath never Trump. Get it?”
That is a very long list Tony is on. That is a lot of never ever's.
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FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 8 minutes later, 35 minutes after the original post[^][v]#714,059
> Editorial comment - This pisses me off because I need desperately for very high drama.
And for this reason you should kill yourself. Stopped reading there.
Metæ replied with this 10 years ago, 14 minutes later, 50 minutes after the original post[^][v]#714,062
@714,058 (C)
I know it's hard to understand because Trump is a Republican and Bush is a Republican but, like imagine if Bernie Sanders' deputy press secretary said:
Former Sanders spokesman Tony Fratto: “For the thick-headed: #NeverHillary means never ever ever ever ever under any circumstances as long as I have breath never Hillary Rotten Clinton. Get it?”
You'd just laugh.
Sheila LaBoof joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 20 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#714,064
THE TRUMP MIRACLE
Syntax joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#714,077
Not just the spread over time but which polls back then called it accurately
This link is one hell of a resource on accuracy of Polls - One cannot use it to look up the current unique LA Times/USC because this one is brand new and its a unique experiment using the same people re polled over a period of time to see if and how they change. Its not representative of how anyone else does it and it surprises me but Nate Silver likes the idea and supports their efforts and wants to see how it plays out to the very end.
Also the old Fox poll was an out-liner and after doing so poorly Fox fired them and has an outfit with a more better reputation. Rasmussem also was so out of line the founder owner Quit and again they are out of bounds trying to make Trump look more better again
ABC News/Wash Post got it most right in 2012 and currently shows Clinton at +8 and the link does show them with A+ Rating and that is for 2008 and 2012 - Metæ you often point out Nate got it right only the day b4 or the morning of the election but in fact he called it months b4 at +4 for Obama in 2012
NBC was very accurate in 2012 and better than most and has Clinton at +9
Don't even get me started with Betfair because the spread between Trump and Clinton is SHOCKING just SHOCKING n yes they did get Brexit Wrong so hey even Jesus Christ could not see Judas for what he was
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FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 10 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#714,080
@previous (Syntax)
But Jesus flat out told Judas that he was going to betray him 3 times before dawn and Judas didn't believe him. And then he did it and the rooster crowed and Judas was like "Oh shit."
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Metæ replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#714,082
@714,077 (Syntax)
I thought your whole thesis was that Trump would fail because he wasn't a nice guy like Jeb! or Romney.
Syntax replied with this 10 years ago, 14 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#714,083
@714,080 (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
I have heard this b4 and will hit bible on web and check that out
@previous (Metæ)
My thesis has always been from GetGo - Women with kids who only recently have been on bandwagon to stop kids from bulling or being bullied will not stand for a Bully and Chief
Trump of course fails for the same reason Romney fails. Autopsy in 2012 paid for by RNC said RNC needed to court Latinos - Trump of course blowing off his own Latino Judge on the TRUMP University case n his stance on Mexicans as Rapists LOL - Not exactly paying attention to why Romney LOST - Now yes it turns out there are more White Republicans NOW then in 2012 but Trump ain't appealing to the Educated White guys n only the Dumb uneducated White guys and even a few Clan and those White guys without the Robes but of course there cannot be many of them or Obama wood never have made it twice
So Trump is down to finding who/whom to vote for him?
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ぶたん joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#714,085
> But Jesus flat out told Judas that he was going to betray him 3 times before dawn and Judas didn't believe him. And then he did it and the rooster crowed and Judas was like "Oh shit."
are you having a giggle or did u read your bible backwards
Syntax replied with this 10 years ago, 10 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#714,087
Bible again one can look at and ponder what the fuck
Matthew 26:2
"You know that the Passover begins in two days, and the Son of Man will be handed over to be crucified."
Matthew 26:14
Then one of the Twelve, the one called Judas Iscariot, went to the chief priests
Matthew 26:15
and asked, "What are you willing to give me if I hand Him over to you?" And they set out for him thirty pieces of silver.
Luke 22:3
Then Satan entered Judas Iscariot, who was one of the Twelve.
John 6:64
However, there are some of you who do not believe." (For Jesus had known from the beginning which of them did not believe and who would betray Him.)
John 6:71
He was speaking about Judas, the son of Simon Iscariot. For although Judas was one of the Twelve, he was later to betray Jesus.
John 13:2
The evening meal was underway, and the devil had already put into the heart of Judas, the son of Simon Iscariot, to betray Jesus.
John 13:26
Jesus answered, "It is the one to whom I give this piece of bread after I have dipped it." Then He dipped the piece of bread and gave it to Judas son of Simon Iscariot.
Syntax double-posted this 10 years ago, 7 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#714,088
Good place to drop this one off
Metæ replied with this 10 years ago, 30 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#714,089
@714,083 (Syntax)
Okay so do you think a Jeb!/Rubio 2016 ticket would have been better? Jeb! is as close to Latino as possible without actually being Latino and Rubio is 100% Latino.
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Syntax replied with this 10 years ago, 9 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#714,090
@previous (Metæ)
Fair or NOT
Jeb will always have the baggage of a family dynasty - Plus he continued to back his brother for invasion of Iraq.
All of them now carry the new baggage of being bullied out of existence by Trump
Metæ replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#714,091
@previous (Syntax)
Okay then what about a Cruz-Rubio 2016 ticket? No family baggage, 100% Latino.
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Syntax replied with this 10 years ago, 24 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#714,094
Cruz's father, Rafael Cruz, had associated with Lee Harvey Oswald before President John F. Kennedy's assassination.
"There was a picture on the front page of the National Enquirer, which does have credibility," Trump said to a room of volunteers and staffers in Cleveland, adding that the tabloid "should be very respected."
National Enquirer and Credibility is the same sentence LOL - Recently they showed Cher dying on the front cover with days to live -
But that all aside are you daft man? Cruz?
Is Ted Cruz really "Lucifer in the flesh," as House Speaker John Boehner declared earlier this week, or is he merely — as 38 percent voters in Florida are willing to believe — a serial killer? Based on the way his 8-year-old daughter, Caroline, recoils from his touch, we could easily be convinced of either possibility.
Metæ replied with this 10 years ago, 14 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#714,095
@previous (Syntax)
So you believe Trump's deranged conspiracy theories? I guess you believe the ones about Hillary having a seizure and using a stool at her rallies, too.
Syntax replied with this 10 years ago, 7 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#714,096
@previous (Metæ)
Oh sure like how Trump outed Obama as ISIS Muslim born in Kenya
Time for me to upload a mass of log files and get them parsed in to the system
I really think it came down to just no strong contenders for RNC and by default the Bully won
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 2 hours later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#714,107
> But Jesus flat out told Judas that he was going to betray him 3 times before dawn and Judas didn't believe him. And then he did it and the rooster crowed and Judas was like "Oh shit."
That was Peter, not Judas, you retard. And even then you've mixed up the story of the 'betrayal' (Judas) with that of the 'denial' (Peter).
Fucking hell Fuckalms, is there literally any subject in the entre world about which you're not a complete and utter spastic? And to think, you're the dumbass I trusted to decide which posts were 'clever' enough to stay on Tinychan.
Sophie !MLHqI35Srs joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 1 hour later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#714,116
Clintonian matrarchy of a negroidally backwards dark ages only a white woman could bring is imminent. This is a sad day for everyone who values civilizational integrity. Roman collapse is here; Judeomatriarchal alliance had brought it.
Syntax replied with this 10 years ago, 20 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#714,119
If she's convinced she's going to win, why does she still need contributions?
RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 10 years ago, 11 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^][v]#714,134
@previous (I)
Because she needs a decisive victory.
FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 10 years ago, 43 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^][v]#714,144
@714,113 (J)
1. Get fucked.
2. Don't patronize with that "I trusted you" bullshit. You made a new thread to whine about every one of your posts as soon they got removed. You second-guessed me at every turn and you made no secret of it. My only regret is not flat-out ionizing you. But, hindsight is 20/20 right?
3. For an "obscure backwater chan" you sure seem to put a lot of effort into fact-checking things. Why do you take everything I say so seriously?
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Syntax replied with this 10 years ago, 1 hour later, 15 hours after the original post[^][v]#714,157
@714,132 (I)
Really? Have you looked at the house of Congress she will be stuck with? The one that has jammed up Obama and is rated as the worst Congress in US History as a do nothing Congress.
RCP Average 7/7 - 8/23 -- 13.2% APPROVE of the Job Congress is doing 77.8% DISAPPROVE
It still looks like its going to end up as the Coat Hanger Republicans in control of Congress. So she needs to be out on the campaign trail with a huge number of local Congress people running for office. Otherwise they stand little chance of being elected and she ends up much like Obama with more a show on TV screen President than a real President.
> 1. Get fucked. > 2. Don't patronize with that "I trusted you" bullshit. You made a new thread to whine about every one of your posts as soon they got removed. You second-guessed me at every turn and you made no secret of it. My only regret is not flat-out ionizing you. But, hindsight is 20/20 right? > 3. For an "obscure backwater chan" you sure seem to put a lot of effort into fact-checking things. Why do you take everything I say so seriously?
It does keep him off the streets where he wood be doing much harm to others
Anonymous J replied with this 10 years ago, 14 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^][v]#714,163
> 2. Don't patronize with that "I trusted you" bullshit. You made a new thread to whine about every one of your posts as soon they got removed. You second-guessed me at every turn and you made no secret of it. My only regret is not flat-out ionizing you. But, hindsight is 20/20 right?
And whom, pray tell, is it you think I am?
> 3. For an "obscure backwater chan" you sure seem to put a lot of effort into fact-checking things. Why do you take everything I say so seriously?
I love how when people point out your support of pedophilia and racism you condemn them for "fact-checking". Damn those pesky facts eh!
Oh and LOL at your little meltdown there. Now go tell people about that Bible story where Adam sacrificed Isaac by turning him in a pillar of salt in Bethlehem. Fucking retard :)
Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^][v]#714,166
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 10 years ago, 5 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^][v]#714,167
PENOSEIS PENSIS PSONE
FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 10 years ago, 27 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^][v]#714,185
@714,163 (J) > Says the 27 year old virgin
And? > I love how when people > people
No, it's just you.
> point out your support of pedophilia and racism
Um, I don't support either of those. You seem to be quite confused, changing the topic in the middle of the conversation.
> you condemn them for "fact-checking". Damn those pesky facts eh!
Yes, it is clear that you took the time to look up the particular bible story I mentioned because you're obsessed with pointing out every single error I make because you somehow think that it will change the fact that most people here aren't bothered by my presence, yet you are repeatedly derided on all fronts in spite of the fact that you hide behind the facade of anonymity. But please, go ahead and prove how you're not mad at all and make another flailing attempt to call my character into question.
Yeah, I confused some bible stories. I'm not a theology scholar and this is a fucking internet forum, I'm not worried about getting it 100% perfect to the T, because nothing said here will ever have any sort of measurable impact on society in the long run.
Anonymous J replied with this 10 years ago, 8 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^][v]#714,190
> Yes, it is clear that you took the time to look up the particular bible story I mentioned
You see, levity aside, this right here is why you are a fucking retard. I'ms serious now buddy, you are shockingly, shockingly unedcuated. You honestly think the only way somebody could know that it was Peter who denied Christ and not Judas is by "looking it up"? 3 people in this thread alone have pointed out you were wrong. It's one of the most famous stories in Western culture, how the hell are you so completely oblivious to any and all cultural references dude? Seriously, how is it possible?
It's one of the reasons I think there's something 'off' about you, something not quite right. Firstly you're almost a middle-aged man but you've never had sex (that's weird, there's no two ways about it), and secondly, you just don't seem to know anything. Every fuckin' thing sails over your head, leading me to wonder - what on earth have you been doing with your life?
Now go tell everyone about the time Hamlet murdered King Lear by having Antony and Cleopatra stab him with Brutus' dagger. Fucking retard :)
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Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 22 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^][v]#714,205
Anonymous J replied with this 10 years ago, 30 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^][v]#714,226
@previous (N)
Yep, that pretty much sums that book up.
FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 10 years ago, 2 hours later, 19 hours after the original post[^][v]#714,293
@714,190 (J)
Until a few months ago, you believed I was 13 years old, which would have meant I started moderating minichan at the age of 8, and yet it never struck you as odd that someone you thought to be 13 could discuss Rush and Pink Floyd and The Beatles? You were either too retarded to notice such a glaring inconsistency, or you willfully chose to ignore it in order to continue believing your bizarre notion that The Doctor was somehow grooming me. If I'm a retard, you're the fool.
Anonymous J replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^][v]#714,298
@previous (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
Once again I have to ask - who the fuck is it you think I am?
FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 10 years ago, 13 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^][v]#714,313
@previous (J)
You are you, and only you, and you are all you will ever be.
Anonymous J replied with this 10 years ago, 12 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#714,503
> it never struck you as odd that someone you thought to be 13 could discuss Rush and Pink Floyd and The Beatles?
Since we're edging in the direction of actually getting serious here, then frankly no - the notion that a 13 year old could talk about The Beatles and Pink Floyd strikes me as less odd than that of a 27 year old who is entirely unaware of absolutely any great novel, or poem, or play, or socio-political text (that includes the Bible).
I joke about it, but there's a seriousness to it as well - you are unbelievably, shockingly uninformed, and I just don't get how it is possible to have lived as long as you have and be so unaware of even basic Western culture. Couple this with the fact that you're a 27 year old virgin who spends a great portion of his life on an internet message board acting as a protector for racists and pedophiles and you have to understand why some people find you a very, very strange person. I say again, it is not normal to be a virgin at 27 unless you are a) religious (you are not), b) dangerously socially-awkward, or c) you're sexually-attracted only to those with whom it would be illegal to have sex.
So, once again recalling the demographic you tried to construct on Tinychan, don't get riled up when people suspect you of option c.
FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 10 years ago, 7 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#714,565
@previous (J)
There you go again with the lying to construct your narrative. Why do you so desperately wish that I was a racist pedophile? Do you miss Kimmo that much and this is your way of avenging him because I sought to destroy your precious AnonTalk?
Anonymous J replied with this 10 years ago, 31 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#714,576
> Why do you so desperately wish that I was a racist pedophile?
I don't "wish" for it. I accuse you of it. Weird you're confusing that. Invoking Freud?
Anonymous J double-posted this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#714,579
@714,565 (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
But ok Fuckalms, let's do it your way then and be direct without parody: why are you a virgin at the age of 27? Why? It isn't normal to be a virgin at 27 if you're not religious. Not normal at all. It's sinister in fact, especially considering the content you allowed to be posted on Tinychan before On and Frank got sick of it.
So answer the question, why have you not had sexual relations yet, even though you're almost middle-aged?
FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 10 years ago, 32 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#714,580
@714,576 (J)
You repeatedly accuse me of of something which is known to be false. Sounds like wishful thinking to me.
@previous (J)
You don't have to be religious to think that having casual sex isn't right for you. Do you also think that all asexuals are pedophiles?
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Syntax replied with this 10 years ago, 23 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#714,583
> You don't have to be religious to think that having casual sex isn't right for you
These days offers of casual sex in beach area is on the rise - However I always have to ask self where has she been and how much goo is trapped inside her Vag - Thoughts of doing it with a rain coat on - However that sure wood suck.
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 10 years ago, 17 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#714,588
> You repeatedly accuse me of of something which is known to be false.
How is this "known to be false"? What is "known" is that you protected racists on Tinychan and banned people who brought attention to their racism.
> You don't have to be religious to think that having casual sex isn't right for you. Do you also think that all asexuals are pedophiles?
Who said anything about "casual sex"? You see, that's why you're a sinister person, Fuckalms. You're sneeky and you're sly. I'm talking about having a proper, loving, caring relationship with an adult person. You, to deflect the issue, have pulled "casual sex" out of your ass. Why? Who said anything about that?
To repeat - you have spent years laughing at and 'bullying' people like Matt and Bert and Autphag and TG for living the lives they do, and yet who the fuck are you? A retarded virginal racist pedophile who gets upset when 'anons' ("the opinions of anons don't matter" apparently) laugh at him but loves it when his anon buddy comes along to back him up.
Anonymous O joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 14 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#714,610
@previous (J) > What is "known" is that you protected racists on Tinychan and banned people who brought attention to their racism.
Racists exist here on MC and TC. Chan culture has always leaned towards free expression-free speech. I abore the racial content but I would rather have that then censorship.
You need to let go of your obsessive hate of FuckAlms. She is a lovely intelligent woman. Or did your mother fail to teach you any manners? Please stop being so rude to her. Perhaps you took the Trump University course of bullying?
Grow up and show some maturity.
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Anonymous J replied with this 10 years ago, 11 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#714,616
Syntax replied with this 10 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#714,639
@previous (J)
I am far from Anon and fully support Anon O's message. I cannot vouch for how attractive FuckAlms is other then to say she has an attractive mind.
Anonymous J replied with this 10 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#714,640
With this I agree. I myself was moved by her discussion of the time Oliver Twist edited the Pickwick Papers at Bleak House on behalf of the Ghost of Christmas Past.