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RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 3 hours later[^][v]#713,103
There is nothing decent about xenophobia or scaremongering.
Thankfully for the UK, at least, UKIP is now likely to die off after the Brexit, and the more moderate and sane Conservative Party can safely step in without UKIP interfering.
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 11 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#713,105
@previous (RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx)
Wasn't the point of UKIP to achieve UK independence?
RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 10 years ago, 19 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#713,107
@previous (C)
Yes. That's why they're likely to fade away, now that they've achieved their main objective. A lot of people don't see the point of UKIP anymore.
They're also not helped by how they've lost Nigel as their party leader, since his successor will almost certainly not be as charismatic as he was.
Metæ joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 11 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#713,108
@713,103 (RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx)
Didn't the remain campaign scaremonger too? With claims there wouldn't be any more trade and there'd be famine and pestilence and Britain would regress to the bronze age.
RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 10 years ago, 6 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#713,110
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Admittedly, yes, but those economic fears were backed by experts. The fears of Leave campaign were less so, and some of their main guys noticeably backed away from their big promises after they won.
Though, and I find this darkly amusing, it's now in my best interests as a UK citizen for the Remain campaign to be be proven wrong, and for the UK to get a good economic deal from the EU. Not that I'm exactly confident that will happen.
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Svet !jzYkdX7lIw joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 29 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#713,113
@previous (RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx)
The EU will back down like they always do and give the UK a great deal, mostly to save themselves but also as Merkel pointed out - we should be given a good deal due to our history with the EU. There is a chance we could rejoin in 20 or 30 years if we're treated well, supported even like a kid leaving home who might move back in. Give us a rough deal and that will lead to bad blood.
Interestingly, giving Britain a bad deal could actually lead to more countries becoming eurosceptic as it'll seem more of a vindictive union rather than a peacful political one.
Metæ replied with this 10 years ago, 11 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#713,114
@713,110 (RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx)
But none of these experts saw the crash of 2008 coming. I'm kinda sceptical of the predictive powers of the economics profession. The fact that they're predicting an apocalypse would actually make me more optimistic about the future.
RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 10 years ago, 57 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#713,126
@713,113 (Svet !jzYkdX7lIw) > Interestingly, giving Britain a bad deal could actually lead to more countries becoming eurosceptic as it'll seem more of a vindictive union rather than a peacful political one.
The way I see it, giving us too good a deal could also embolden the other anti-EU parties throughout Europe, since a good deal basically means giving us concessions on EU immigration while still allowing us into the Single Market. A perfect deal that the Eurosceptic parties will use to reassure their voters that leaving isn't an economic risk.
Still, what you're saying sounds plausible enough, and I'm hoping it'll play out that way when Article 50 is triggered.
@previous (Metæ)
Well, this is a bit of a clearer picture to examine, I think. The basic premise is that the UK could face penalties trading with our main trading partners, and could have fewer foreign workers (in the long-term).
Though, of course, that all hinges on the deal the UK gets with the EU. So, as I said, I'm hoping you're correct!