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Topic: Cheerleader Who Refused To Cheer For Her Alleged Rapist Must Pay $45,000 To School

swamplights !!V3J448+/B started this discussion 15 years ago #5,494

Silsbee, TX – I swear I thought this was the plot of a FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS episode, but I guess I just read about it in our forums. The story starts in 2008 when a 16-year-old cheerleader for Silsbee High School accused one of the school’s star athletes, Rakheem Bolton (pictured), of raping her at a party.
Bolton and two other men would later be arrested and a grand jury would indict Bolton on a felony sexual assault of a minor charge. This charge was dropped when Bolton pleaded guilty to misdemeanor assault. He received two years probation, community service, a fine and had to to take anger-management classes. He was also allowed to return to school and rejoin his teammates on the basketball team. ”I have no hard feelings toward the girl,” Bolton told reporters. “It was a misunderstanding.”
In January of 2009, the victim was leading cheers at a basketball game Bolton was participating in, but when Bolton was about to take a free throw, the girl would stand silently with her arms folded refusing to cheer for the person she accuses of raping her. This got her kicked off the squad. ”I didn’t want to have to say his name and I didn’t want to cheer for him,” she later told reporters. “I just didn’t want to encourage anything he was doing.”
So the victim and her parents hired lawyers to sue the principal and the School District. They argued that the girl’s right to exercise free expression had been violated when she was instructed to cheer for the person who sexually assaulted her. But two separate courts ruled against her, deciding that a cheerleader does not speak for themselves, but freely agrees to act as a “mouthpiece” for an institution, in turn surrendering their constitutional right to free speech.
To add insult to injury, a federal appeals court upheld those decisions and has ordered the girl to reimburse the school district $45,000 for filing a “frivolous” lawsuit against it.

Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later[^] [v] #96,101

Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 13 minutes later, 14 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #96,108

Good. Stupid bitch shouldn't have got mixed up with a black man in the first place. Hope she turns to crack and has to suck off old niggers to support her habbit

Nexus !jNexusRe/. joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 18 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #96,109

@previous (C)
This.

Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 3 hours later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,158

Didn't you make this thread already?

Anonymous E double-posted this 15 years ago, 43 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,159

@96,109 (Nexus !jNexusRe/.)
I am disappointed in you. :/

Nexus !jNexusRe/. replied with this 15 years ago, 13 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,162

@previous (E)
Many people are, take a number.

Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 4 hours later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,196

@previous (Nexus !jNexusRe/.)

Ohhhhh, Nexus has gone all dark and emo on us!

Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,197

@previous (F)
Pic related; it's Nexus. :')

Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 23 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,207

@OP
What's with all the rape topics lately?

Also, considering that this case has gone to trial more times than I care to keep track of, and every trial from the rape trial to the appeals court trial has ruled not in favor of this girl, I'm guessing that there's more to this story than the article leads one to believe, and she's probably a bitch.

Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 38 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,208

@96,101 (B)
This.

Anonymous G replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,209

> The Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals, one of the most conservative courts in the country, ruled last November that the victim — who is known only as H.S. — had no right to refuse to applaud her attacker because as a cheerleader in uniform, she was an agent of the school. To add insult to injury, the Fifth Circuit dismissed her case as “frivolous” and sanctioned the girl, forcing her family to pay the school district’s $45,000 legal fees.
LolAmerica.

Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,214

@previous (G)

She representing the school when she is in uniform. A lot of court cases in both America and the EU have revolved around the aspect of a school uniform / cheerleader outfit. She was doing the school an injustice by not cheering.

She should have quit cheerleading if she didn't want to cheer for him, dumb bitch.

(Edited 2 minutes later.)

psychopath !PAHVpsycho joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 5 hours later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,324

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeZAFhf3hXw

FFS...
Why must someone owe the school $45,000 for being raped and refusing to cheer her rapist? This is disgusting and those who decided this needs to be fucking shot in the face.

Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 20 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,330

@96,214 (F)
> She was doing the school an injustice by not cheering.
At the same time, isn't the school doing her an injustice by expecting her to cheer for the man who raped her?
> She should have quit cheerleading if she didn't want to cheer for him, dumb bitch.
No. She shouldn't have to drop cheerleading for her rapist. She enjoys cheerleading, so she should continue to do it. She has every reason not to cheer for the man who violated her.

Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 replied with this 15 years ago, 41 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,345

@previous (K)
> implying he's guilty

Not every black guy is OJ, ya know.

Anonymous K replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,346

@previous (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)

You're arguing whether he actually raped her or not, which is a whole different matter.

The assumption here is that he did rape her, and so the question becomes whether she is obligated to cheer for him or not.

Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 11 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,356

@previous (K)
Oh boy, you've done it now...

Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 replied with this 15 years ago, 31 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,365

@96,346 (K)
> the assumption here is that he did rape her
So he's guilty until proven innocent now? Even though he was not found guilty of rape? Also, see my first post. This bitch has been ruled against in every court room she's been in. There's probably more to it than you're assuming.

Bottom line is, if she doesn't want to cheer for him, she doesn't have to, because no one's making her be a cheerleader. "But she loves cheerleading and that's what she wants to do," well, too bad, life isn't fair. What if I want to pursue a career in the military because that's what I know and love to do, but I disagree with the ethics of the wars we're in? Do I have the right to join the military but then pick and choose what I will or will not participate in? No. It's the same with cheerleading squad, even if he did rape her. And she should have to pay for the frivolous lawsuit.

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 15 years ago, 13 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,370

@previous (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
Cheerleading: the same as joining the army.

DatSpelling !dLadyGAgAA joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,371

There's also the rape case where the accused was acquitted because the accuser's jeans were apparently too tight to be taken off alone. The leap the defense, and then the jury, made was that since the accuser had to help take the jeans off, it must have been consensual.

Anonymous K replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,374

@96,365 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)

> So he's guilty until proven innocent now?
Yes.
> There's probably more to it than you're assuming.
Or maybe not.
> Bottom line is, if she doesn't want to cheer for him, she doesn't have to, because no one's making her be a cheerleader.
That's right. If she doesn't want to cheer for him, then she doesn't have to. But she can still be a cheerleader at the same time, and cheer on those who didn't rape her. Simple as that.
> "But she loves cheerleading and that's what she wants to do," well, too bad, life isn't fair.
It doesn't have to be that way. She did the right thing by not cheering him on.
> What if I want to pursue a career in the military because that's what I know and love to do, but I disagree with the ethics of the wars we're in?
How is that in any way analogous to cheerleading? Come up with a stronger metaphor, please.
> Do I have the right to join the military but then pick and choose what I will or will not participate in? No.
And what do you not want to participate in?
> It's the same with cheerleading squad, even if he did rape her.
No.
> And she should have to pay for the frivolous lawsuit.
No.

psychopath !PAHVpsycho replied with this 15 years ago, 9 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,377

@96,365 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
> So he's guilty until proven innocent now?
He's a fucking nigger. Of course he is.
> Even though he was not found guilty of rape?
See above.
> Bottom line is, if she doesn't want to cheer for him, she doesn't have to, because no one's making her be a cheerleader.
No one forced the nigger to rape her, either, you dumb leftist faggot.
> "But she loves cheerleading and that's what she wants to do," well, too bad, life isn't fair.
You'd think otherwise if you had a filthy nigger cock forced up you without your consent.
> What if I want to pursue a career in the military because that's what I know and love to do, but I disagree with the ethics of the wars we're in?
Even the military bans rape, you fucking idiot.
> Do I have the right to join the military but then pick and choose what I will or will not participate in?
How the fuck is cheering the fucking team the same as being cannon fodder?
> No. It's the same with cheerleading squad, even if he did rape her.
You don't think that if she were raped in the military, she wouldn't be able to press charges against the rapist, right?
> And she should have to pay for the frivolous lawsuit.
I'd pay them with bullets sprayed in their fucking faces.

Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 replied with this 15 years ago, 9 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,381

@96,370 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
I rike you...you make me raff.

Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,383

@96,377 (psychopath !PAHVpsycho)
I found your obviously insincere post highly amusing.

Green !pFNWNYROxA joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,386

@96,381 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)

Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,388

@96,374 (K)
Well he was proven innocent, of rape at least, and cheerleading doesn't need to be similar to military service for my analogy to work. That's why it's an analogy.

Even if he raped her, and several courts of law said he did not, and everything I said still stands. I award you no point, and may god have mercy on your soul.

(Edited 1 minute later.)

psychopath !PAHVpsycho replied with this 15 years ago, 12 seconds later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,389

@96,386 (Green !pFNWNYROxA)
Someone ionise this faggot before he does yet another completely pointless blank-bodied reaction-image combo.

Katerina Shcherbatskaya joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,394

@96,207 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
@96,365 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
> SCHOOL'S OUT AND I'M ON MINICHAN CALLING RAPE VICTIMS BITCHES XD

Don't you have a Bloodelf to level?

Anonymous K replied with this 15 years ago, 14 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,404

@96,388 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)

> Well he was proven innocent, of rape at least
If you'd even done some reading, you'd realize he was found innocent because his team couldn't afford to lose him.
> and cheerleading doesn't need to be similar to military service for my analogy to work. That's why it's an analogy.T
They have to have an inkling of relevance to even be comparable, you dimwitted windbag.
> Even if he raped her, and several courts of law said he did not
So the court system is incapable of error?
> and everything I said still stands.
That she's a "bitch" who deserves to pay the $45,000?
> I award you no point, and may god have mercy on your soul.
On the contrary, dear spunk rag, you're the one with the permanently broken soul who needs all the help he can get from God or your chosen deity.

Katerina Shcherbatskaya replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,407

He pleaded guilty to assaulting her. He wasn't "proven innocent".

Ash Ketchup !bbKEtchUp. joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 23 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,416

@96,389 (psychopath !PAHVpsycho)

cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 19 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,425

@96,388 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)

> Well he was proven innocent, of rape at least,

Jesus fuck you retard, when have you ever heard a court declare someone "innocent"? He pleaded to a lesser charge anyway. Do you understand the legal system at all, or are you just that hard up to find another female to call a bitch that any old thing will do?

> Even if he raped her, and several courts of law said he did not, and everything I said still stands.

Please name the "several courts" that say he did not rape her. Do you believe that the matter of the rape was addressed in this lawsuit? We may be talking about different cases, if so, because he already fucking pleaded guilty to assault. And this is a civil action brought by the victim against her school.

Honestly, you're one of the biggest idiots here. Listen, I'm really sorry that you're not getting hours of anal these days, but you shouldn't let that cloud your judgment so much.

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Nega !34Kas0OdzM joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 12 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,433

@96,407 (Katerina Shcherbatskaya)

> He pleaded guilty to assaulting her. He wasn't "proven innocent".

/discussion

DatSpelling !dLadyGAgAA replied with this 15 years ago, 19 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,440

@96,425 (cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w)
cccuuunnttt : Ks :: Broseph : Anonymous

Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,544

@96,425 (cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w)
Innocent until proven guilty. He plead guilty to a lesser charge, and convicted on the lesser charge. If he wasn't convicted of rape, then he's not guilty of rape.

Regardless of what he did, or what the court said, I stand by my previous analogy and I side with the school. If she doesn't want to cheer for him she doesn't have to be on the cheer squad.

The other court cases had nothing to do with whether or not she was raped. They were on whether or not it was right for her to not cheer and right for the school to kick her off the squad. All of those cases, including the appeals court, sided with the school and even called her lawsuit frivolous. So call me retarded all you want, but several judges and jurors tend to agree with me.

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Ash Ketchup !bbKEtchUp. replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,547

@96,425 (cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w)

> when have you ever heard a court declare someone "innocent"?

Quite a few times actually.

cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w replied with this 15 years ago, 11 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,550

@previous (Ash Ketchup !bbKEtchUp.)

"Not guilty" does not equal innocent. Even when convictions are overturned, courts don't pronounce people "innocent." It's not a legal term that's used.

I was mostly pointing out that Broseph was talking out of his ass (again), having apparently done no reading on this case at all.

Ash Ketchup !bbKEtchUp. replied with this 15 years ago, 44 seconds later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,551

@previous (cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w)

> "Not guilty" does not equal innocent. Even when convictions are overturned, courts don't pronounce people "innocent." It's not a legal term that's used.

Good point.

cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,552

@96,544 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)

> Innocent until proven guilty. He plead guilty to a lesser charge, and convicted on the lesser charge. If he wasn't convicted of rape, then he's not guilty of rape.

Agreed. He's guilty of the assault he acknowledged. He's not "innocent" by a long shot, and no court stated such.

> Regardless of what he did, or what the court said, I stand by my previous analogy and I side with the school. If she doesn't want to cheer for him she doesn't have to be on the cheer squad.

You think she should have to quit because of this? While he's the one who's admitted to sexual assault? It's extraordinarily unjust to her. He can quit, too -- or better yet, get kicked off the team because he assaulted someone.

> The other court cases had nothing to do with whether or not she was raped. [blah blah blah, agreeing with the facts that everyone else pointed out]

In other words, you're backtracking. Several courts did not say that he didn't rape her; as you now agree, the bulk of the legal wrangling has been over the school's actions. Additionally, there wasn't actually a rape trial (as you previously claimed); he pleaded to sexual assault before it went to trial.

I'm glad you finally did some reading on the case.

However, I'd like to go back to an earlier statement you made...

> I'm guessing that there's more to this story than the article leads one to believe, and she's probably a bitch.

and just reiterate that you're a terrible person. Go to hell.

Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 replied with this 15 years ago, 31 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,556

@96,550 (cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w)
> Not guilty does not equal innocent

Yes, it does. Innocent until proven guilty. Not found guilty of rape. Innocent of rape. I realize "innocent" is not the legal term used, but my logic is not that hard to follow, and to say I'm talking out my ass simply over semantics isn't right.

If you disagree with me, that's fine. I'm not going to belittle your opinions, or say you're talking out your ass, or stoop to your attacks. I respect your opinion and can see it your way. I can understand that the girl feels traumatized and doesn't want to cheer for him. I just respectfully disagree with you, and agree with those who sided with the school. Please grow up.

cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,558

@previous (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
Fuck off.

Nexus !jNexusRe/. replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,562

> This thread

cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,566

@previous (Nexus !jNexusRe/.)

dreaaa mworks joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,567

@previous (cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w)
fap

Nexus !jNexusRe/. replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,569

@96,566 (cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w)

FUD !dLadyGAgAA replied with this 15 years ago, 32 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,589

@96,552 (cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w)
> you're backtracing

lol

sexual aerosol !!mtq555+/1 joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 38 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,615

cheerleading b srs bznss

The Truth !!vSp31CfSr joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 22 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,633

Yall niggas trolling in a post thread.

Bitch signed up for cheerleading squad, bitch is supposed to cheer the whole fucking team.
If the nigga was proven not guilty, the feelings of the bitch are irrelevant to her team, he is supposed to do what she has to do.
Goddamn bitches, hope she loses the lawsuit for being a stupid bitch.

The Truth !!vSp31CfSr double-posted this 15 years ago, 15 seconds later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,635

Double posted cause of shitty connection.

(Edited 1 minute later.)

The Truth !!vSp31CfSr triple-posted this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #96,638

Also, OP is a sensationalist imbecile posting a misleading headline like that.
The bitch would not have to pay the school shit if she wouldn't have started a baseless legal battle making the school spend that money and resources on lawyers. Shit.

(Edited 2 minutes later.)

psychopath !PAHVpsycho replied with this 15 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #96,786

@96,633 (The Truth !!vSp31CfSr)
Exactly WHY was the nigger not kicked off the team for sexually-assaulting a female cheerleader?

swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 16 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #97,181

@96,638 (The Truth !!vSp31CfSr)
How was it a misleading headline?

swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #97,182

@96,786 (psychopath !PAHVpsycho)
Because to some people,sports are more important than human dignity.

swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) triple-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #97,185

@96,633 (The Truth !!vSp31CfSr)
He wasn't proven to be not guilty, he plead to a lesser charge.
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