Topic: math, the logical language.
trip !SHjzCSZsqE started this discussion 15 years ago #5,420
Discuss.
I really don't care if this gets locked, it seemed about as pointless as those "this is the best language" threads we had a while back. I was inspired. Thank-you playingalong
I really don't care if this gets locked, it seemed about as pointless as those "this is the best language" threads we had a while back. I was inspired. Thank-you playingalong
brie !OudrPWaUDQ joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later[^] [v] #95,225
English, the herpderp language.
If you have two apples, and i take one away, how many apples are there?
Who the fuck knows?! Not me, that's for sure.
If you have two apples, and i take one away, how many apples are there?
Who the fuck knows?! Not me, that's for sure.
Syntax joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 12 minutes later, 14 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #95,248
@OP
> Discuss.
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> I really don't care if this gets locked, it seemed about as pointless as those "this is the best language" threads we had a while back. I was inspired. Thank-you playingalong
Wood have been more better if you had given an example or three. As it stands its text of little value bordering on Shitposting as you know.
> Discuss.
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> I really don't care if this gets locked, it seemed about as pointless as those "this is the best language" threads we had a while back. I was inspired. Thank-you playingalong
Wood have been more better if you had given an example or three. As it stands its text of little value bordering on Shitposting as you know.
Ash Ketchup !bbKEtchUp. joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 15 minutes later, 29 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #95,258
You cannot say hello, goodbye or engage in the appropriate spolite conversation between those two with maths.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 15 minutes later, 44 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #95,277
@previous (Ash Ketchup !bbKEtchUp.)
He didn't say it was the best for all communication, though. He just pointed out that it's a logical language and pretty much left it at that.
He didn't say it was the best for all communication, though. He just pointed out that it's a logical language and pretty much left it at that.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 45 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #95,278
Ash Ketchup !bbKEtchUp. replied with this 15 years ago, 45 seconds later, 46 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #95,279
@95,277 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
It was aimed more at def, he bashes english all the time and says how numbers are superior
It was aimed more at def, he bashes english all the time and says how numbers are superior
Ash Ketchup !bbKEtchUp. double-posted this 15 years ago, 16 seconds later, 46 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #95,280
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 49 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #95,281
@previous (Ash Ketchup !bbKEtchUp.)
S and P are on opposite ends of the keyboard how big are your fingers?
S and P are on opposite ends of the keyboard how big are your fingers?
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 51 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #95,282
@95,279 (Ash Ketchup !bbKEtchUp.)
If I was Def, I'd try to get away from using words altogether too.
If I was Def, I'd try to get away from using words altogether too.
psychopath !PAHVpsycho joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 10 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #95,284
Esperanto > Maths
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 15 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #95,295
Broseph speaks his very own dialect of math.
Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 3 hours later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #95,422
@95,279 (Ash Ketchup !bbKEtchUp.)@95,279 (Ash Ketchup !bbKEtchUp.)
> It was aimed more at def, he bashes english all the time and says how numbers are superior
Ah well LoL ....Ask any very successful attorney why a legal brief is almost always a book thick nor understandably by anyone other then attorneys.
Damn language is so fucking Imprecise, loaded with illogical rules. Over tyme it has changed and I still enjoy reading Chaucer in old English. I could post all kinds of funny stuff re how Rfull English is. So imagine how happy it makes me to make my living off of Cell Technology and to watch the growth of a new technology destroying the language daily.
TEXTING
Really old school as it originated from telegraphy but U would have to look such up.
> It was aimed more at def, he bashes english all the time and says how numbers are superior
Ah well LoL ....Ask any very successful attorney why a legal brief is almost always a book thick nor understandably by anyone other then attorneys.
Damn language is so fucking Imprecise, loaded with illogical rules. Over tyme it has changed and I still enjoy reading Chaucer in old English. I could post all kinds of funny stuff re how Rfull English is. So imagine how happy it makes me to make my living off of Cell Technology and to watch the growth of a new technology destroying the language daily.
TEXTING
Really old school as it originated from telegraphy but U would have to look such up.
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 19 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #95,426
Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 24 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #95,434
@previous (I)
http://www.accesstca.com/clipboard/blog/imprecise-language-hurting-your-roi
Edwin Newman, longtime NBC newsman...sorta obit
"Newman wrote two books on the language, Strictly Speaking: Will America Be the Death of English? (1974) and A Civil Tongue (1976), in which he warned that our language was “falling prey to windiness, witlessness, ungrammaticality, obfuscation and other depredations.†And while some would argue that Newman’s strict constructionist approach to English was pedantic or even self-righteous, it’s hard to deny that we have gotten, at best, a little sloppy, and at worst, flagrantly violative when it comes to how we talk and write.
This argument is purely academic until it starts to cost us money. When it does, then it becomes serious business.
The Scottish mathematician Sir D’Arcy Wentworth Thompson called numerical precision “the very soul of science.†In business the final numbers are very often dependent on how precise we are with the language when defining our numerical or financial goals. As such, linguistic precision, to appropriate Sir D’Arcy’s words, is the very soul of marketing.
Take, for example, the word “synergy.†This word has crept into common business language (and granted, it is in the Oxford English Dictionary), no matter how distasteful it might be to those who rail against “business-speak.†But the problem with synergy isn’t its overuse by those whose vocabulary also features words like “optics†and “bandwidth.†The problem is how often it is used broadly, without the benefit of measurable expectations attached to it."
and
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/Lisica/english-proficiency_b_851662_85263652.html
EYE On the other hand are not often pedantic yet I know I can be self-righteous
http://www.accesstca.com/clipboard/blog/imprecise-language-hurting-your-roi
Edwin Newman, longtime NBC newsman...sorta obit
"Newman wrote two books on the language, Strictly Speaking: Will America Be the Death of English? (1974) and A Civil Tongue (1976), in which he warned that our language was “falling prey to windiness, witlessness, ungrammaticality, obfuscation and other depredations.†And while some would argue that Newman’s strict constructionist approach to English was pedantic or even self-righteous, it’s hard to deny that we have gotten, at best, a little sloppy, and at worst, flagrantly violative when it comes to how we talk and write.
This argument is purely academic until it starts to cost us money. When it does, then it becomes serious business.
The Scottish mathematician Sir D’Arcy Wentworth Thompson called numerical precision “the very soul of science.†In business the final numbers are very often dependent on how precise we are with the language when defining our numerical or financial goals. As such, linguistic precision, to appropriate Sir D’Arcy’s words, is the very soul of marketing.
Take, for example, the word “synergy.†This word has crept into common business language (and granted, it is in the Oxford English Dictionary), no matter how distasteful it might be to those who rail against “business-speak.†But the problem with synergy isn’t its overuse by those whose vocabulary also features words like “optics†and “bandwidth.†The problem is how often it is used broadly, without the benefit of measurable expectations attached to it."
and
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/Lisica/english-proficiency_b_851662_85263652.html
EYE On the other hand are not often pedantic yet I know I can be self-righteous
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Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 replied with this 15 years ago, 10 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #95,438
@95,426 (I)
That's exactly the point I was trying to make. He just hates what he doesn't understand and assumes that language is the problem, not him. How the fuck would you express the complexity of a society's laws as a bunch of mathematical equations? While I agree that laws should be as logical as possible, it's takes complex language to express that logic. As you said, language is very precise when one knows how to use it properly.
That's exactly the point I was trying to make. He just hates what he doesn't understand and assumes that language is the problem, not him. How the fuck would you express the complexity of a society's laws as a bunch of mathematical equations? While I agree that laws should be as logical as possible, it's takes complex language to express that logic. As you said, language is very precise when one knows how to use it properly.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #95,439
@95,434 (Syntax)
That's a problem with what culture is doing to the language, not a problem with the language itself.
That's a problem with what culture is doing to the language, not a problem with the language itself.
trip !SHjzCSZsqE (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 20 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #95,446
I can't believe a discussion actually sprouted at my intentionally made shit post. Thank you MC.
Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 11 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #95,454
@previous (trip !SHjzCSZsqE)
Tis how a community takes shit and processes it into a product worthy of consumption. This explanation will now excite Broseph sexually and he may run elsewhere for comfort.
@95,439 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
If the culture was so comfortable with English from the dark ages it would have remained the same instead of changing. In France they have laws that hold the language stagnant. Those laws are limited to official gov and civic business. English turns into whatever anyone wants it to be.
Willy Shakespeare found the language of his day so limiting he did what I do...mess with it ...fuck with it.. make up new words...new twists n turns not covered by rules of his day
Only Willy did it more better then I do.
Tis how a community takes shit and processes it into a product worthy of consumption. This explanation will now excite Broseph sexually and he may run elsewhere for comfort.
@95,439 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
If the culture was so comfortable with English from the dark ages it would have remained the same instead of changing. In France they have laws that hold the language stagnant. Those laws are limited to official gov and civic business. English turns into whatever anyone wants it to be.
Willy Shakespeare found the language of his day so limiting he did what I do...mess with it ...fuck with it.. make up new words...new twists n turns not covered by rules of his day
Only Willy did it more better then I do.
(Edited 2 minutes later.)
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #95,458
@previous (Syntax)
> Tis how a community takes shit and processes it into a product worthy of consumption.
Just as your posts are a good example of how something worthy of consumption can be turned into complete shit.
> Tis how a community takes shit and processes it into a product worthy of consumption.
Just as your posts are a good example of how something worthy of consumption can be turned into complete shit.
Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 10 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #95,470
@previous (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
It is not my fault if you choose to turn my advanced Inglish in2 sumpting that may be less worthy then what you are used too elsewhere. At least you do not see me begging nite and day for food money in the guise of needing batteries.
Oh my did eye do it again lol
It is not my fault if you choose to turn my advanced Inglish in2 sumpting that may be less worthy then what you are used too elsewhere. At least you do not see me begging nite and day for food money in the guise of needing batteries.
Oh my did eye do it again lol
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #95,476
Leo Vegas !gNoGoD5HzQ joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 10 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #95,486
...and I got some corn for popping...
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #95,487
@95,258 (Ash Ketchup !bbKEtchUp.)
> You cannot say hello, goodbye or engage in the appropriate spolite conversation between those two with maths.
> Not understanding the meaning of the word "language"
> You cannot say hello, goodbye or engage in the appropriate spolite conversation between those two with maths.
> Not understanding the meaning of the word "language"
Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #95,490
@previous (K)
Spot on
I should hope not
@95,486 (Leo Vegas !gNoGoD5HzQ)
Fire in downstairs microwave bag of popcorn. what a mess. Defective package....no tyme to sue.
Spot on
I should hope not
@95,486 (Leo Vegas !gNoGoD5HzQ)
Fire in downstairs microwave bag of popcorn. what a mess. Defective package....no tyme to sue.
(Edited 1 minute later.)
Ash Ketchup !bbKEtchUp. replied with this 15 years ago, 13 hours later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #95,891
@95,487 (K)
If you can't can't say hi, it's a pretty shitty language.
@95,422 (Syntax)
Chaucer wrote in Middle English.
If you can't can't say hi, it's a pretty shitty language.
@95,422 (Syntax)
Chaucer wrote in Middle English.
TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #95,901
If I'll ever broadcast shit into space it'll be a sequence of burst signals representing prime numbers. Fuck yeah, maths is the best intergalactic language.