Topic: Hey atheists, if everything must be proven?
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E started this discussion 10 years ago #52,784
Do you not believe that kittens shouldn't be savagely beaten to death since there is bo proof of that? do you think it's just a matter of opinion and the answer to the kitten question depends on who you ask?
chili dog !!81dzJNNYL joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 31 seconds later[^] [v] #689,492
just shut up jesus christ
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 23 seconds later, 54 seconds after the original post[^] [v] #689,493
Maddy is !grate/DTHM joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 5 minutes later, 6 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #689,495
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 57 seconds later, 7 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #689,496
chili dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 9 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #689,497
RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 11 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #689,499
I came to this thread to shitpost, and then exit.Here we go:
@689,492 (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
you know you've fucked up when triptych is telling you to shut up
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kook !!2HY00OZrM joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 13 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #689,500
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 15 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #689,502
chili dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 17 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #689,504
@previous (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
the god/proof argument is entirely irrelevant to the kitten/abuse argument you are creating now
the latter is an entirely moral question, the former is an existence-of question
@689,499 (RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx)
yes
the god/proof argument is entirely irrelevant to the kitten/abuse argument you are creating now
the latter is an entirely moral question, the former is an existence-of question
@689,499 (RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx)
yes
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 5 minutes later, 23 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #689,506
@previous (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
But both of these still concerns belief, so to believe one of those things over the other, yet criticizing the one you don't believe for lacking evidence is hypocritical.
But both of these still concerns belief, so to believe one of those things over the other, yet criticizing the one you don't believe for lacking evidence is hypocritical.
RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 24 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #689,507
@689,500 (kook !!2HY00OZrM)Ha, this coming from the lady who reads about serial killers for fun?
It's just an anime catgirl vibrating a bit. Nothing to worry about.
chili dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 26 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #689,508
@689,506 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
but no
morals are different than existence-of
like
saying that ghosts don't real (and asking for evidence that they do) is not equivalent to saying that murdering people is wrong (and asking for evidence that it isn't)
but no
morals are different than existence-of
like
saying that ghosts don't real (and asking for evidence that they do) is not equivalent to saying that murdering people is wrong (and asking for evidence that it isn't)
Maddy is !grate/DTHM replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 31 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #689,510
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 33 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #689,512
@689,508 (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
But despite the lack of evidence for god, the idea is that people should believe. Just like despite the lack of evidence of the existence of human rights, it's a idea and a idea all should believe true.
But despite the lack of evidence for god, the idea is that people should believe. Just like despite the lack of evidence of the existence of human rights, it's a idea and a idea all should believe true.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 34 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #689,515
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 29 seconds later, 35 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #689,517
chili dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 10 years ago, 59 seconds later, 36 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #689,518
@689,512 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
again
the issue is morals vs existence
sure human rights aren't real in any material sense and you cannot argue that they are
it is a matter of respect
in society, we all benefit from mutually subscribing to a set of rules
one of which is that every human has a set of rights which are fundamental to human existence
they are protected by law and sure they are not material but they are essential for the function of society
again
the issue is morals vs existence
sure human rights aren't real in any material sense and you cannot argue that they are
it is a matter of respect
in society, we all benefit from mutually subscribing to a set of rules
one of which is that every human has a set of rights which are fundamental to human existence
they are protected by law and sure they are not material but they are essential for the function of society
Anonymous F replied with this 10 years ago, 6 seconds later, 36 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #689,519
Anonymous F double-posted this 10 years ago, 48 seconds later, 36 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #689,520
Maddy is !grate/DTHM replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 38 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #689,521
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 43 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #689,523
@689,518 (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
You believe in something you say isn't real, you almost say it's for the greater good.
We are all different, we must respect that and sometimes for certain people, it is in their own words- the greater good that they believe in God.
You believe in something you say isn't real, you almost say it's for the greater good.
We are all different, we must respect that and sometimes for certain people, it is in their own words- the greater good that they believe in God.
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Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) double-posted this 10 years ago, 25 seconds later, 43 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #689,524
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) triple-posted this 10 years ago, 8 minutes later, 51 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #689,526
Anyway... Gn yall. Signing of because mc is a radio
adam djensen joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 23 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #689,536
Make this thread again
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 3 hours later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #689,602
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 7 hours later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #689,681
Retarded sophistry mixing different definitions of "exist", "proof", "should" etc.
RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 10 years ago, 8 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #689,682
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
What if Denmark guy enrolled in a Philosophy degree?
Would he have to debate the whole damn class? Could he take them?
What if Denmark guy enrolled in a Philosophy degree?
Would he have to debate the whole damn class? Could he take them?
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Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 5 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #689,683
@689,602 (H)
That's very true.
But if you believe in a moral truth, you believe in a truth without evidence.
That's very true.
But if you believe in a moral truth, you believe in a truth without evidence.
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 7 hours later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #689,745
I don't care. Kitten tastes like veal.
Syntax joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 19 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #689,748
@OP> Do you not believe that kittens shouldn't be savagely beaten to death since there is bo proof of that?
Are you trying your best to be Fatfucks understudy?
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 1 hour later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #689,769
@OP
> Do you not believe that kittens shouldn't be savagely beaten to death since there is bo proof of that? do you think it's just a matter of opinion and the answer to the kitten question depends on who you ask?
Yes.
> Do you not believe that kittens shouldn't be savagely beaten to death since there is bo proof of that? do you think it's just a matter of opinion and the answer to the kitten question depends on who you ask?
Yes.
Anonymous L double-posted this 10 years ago, 6 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #689,770
Allow me to elaborate.
I don't want kittens to be killed. I don't like pain or knowing times it has happened to others.
However, a person who makes a habit of pet murder would think it is absolutely fine to do. They disregard the pain they cause for others.
In the objective world, the one that we see through the lense of a human psyche, there is no right or wrong. We're all just dumb animals doing shit for whatever reason. Therefore, there is no logical reason why one can not believe that kittens should be murdered and also believe that some others believe otherwise.
I don't want kittens to be killed. I don't like pain or knowing times it has happened to others.
However, a person who makes a habit of pet murder would think it is absolutely fine to do. They disregard the pain they cause for others.
In the objective world, the one that we see through the lense of a human psyche, there is no right or wrong. We're all just dumb animals doing shit for whatever reason. Therefore, there is no logical reason why one can not believe that kittens should be murdered and also believe that some others believe otherwise.
Nexi !tRAnsGiRLo joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 4 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #689,795
@689,521 (Maddy is !grate/DTHM)
I wasn't even in this thread and you drag my ass into it. Leave me the fuck out of your arguments.
I wasn't even in this thread and you drag my ass into it. Leave me the fuck out of your arguments.
Real Fake Dokter !rozLf8bqm. replied with this 10 years ago, 18 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #689,799
@previous (Nexi !tRAnsGiRLo)
No, whenever someone does what you do, I'm going to call them by your name I'm a derisive manner.
Deal with it.
No, whenever someone does what you do, I'm going to call them by your name I'm a derisive manner.
Deal with it.
Nexi !tRAnsGiRLo replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #689,800
@previous (Real Fake Dokter !rozLf8bqm.)
Ok. You will have word salads and thread derailment with you in return.
Ok. You will have word salads and thread derailment with you in return.
Maddy is !grate/DTHM replied with this 10 years ago, 36 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #689,802
Nexi !tRAnsGiRLo replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #689,803
@previous (Maddy is !grate/DTHM)
Well if people are going to say I am him, I better live up to that role.
Well if people are going to say I am him, I better live up to that role.
Maddy is !grate/DTHM replied with this 10 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #689,807
bhutam joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 29 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #689,808
Nexi !tRAnsGiRLo replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #689,809
@689,807 (Maddy is !grate/DTHM)
Enjoy this happening in every single thread you post. I am going to derail that shit. I am seriously going to enjoy this shit, It is going to be fun.
Enjoy this happening in every single thread you post. I am going to derail that shit. I am seriously going to enjoy this shit, It is going to be fun.
Maddy is !grate/DTHM replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #689,813
@previous (Nexi !tRAnsGiRLo)
Are you going to fill them with half-assed "facts", and assumed knowledge like usual?
Are you going to fill them with half-assed "facts", and assumed knowledge like usual?
bhutam replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #689,815
Nexi !tRAnsGiRLo replied with this 10 years ago, 16 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #689,816
Maddy is !grate/DTHM replied with this 10 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #689,818
Nexi !tRAnsGiRLo replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #689,819
@previous (Maddy is !grate/DTHM)
No Maddy, you don't. You just go around saying people are mad when you are the one who is.
I just want you to leave me out of your arguments and you can't even do that. That is how mad you are.
No Maddy, you don't. You just go around saying people are mad when you are the one who is.
I just want you to leave me out of your arguments and you can't even do that. That is how mad you are.
Maddy is !grate/DTHM replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #689,820
Nexi !tRAnsGiRLo replied with this 10 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #689,823
@previous (Maddy is !grate/DTHM)
You are the one going around claiming everyone is mad when it is you who is mad. You brought me into this argument because you are mad at me, when I didn't even post in this thread until I saw that. That says a lot about how you feel maddy. Saying you are perfectly calm doesn't change anything.
You are the one going around claiming everyone is mad when it is you who is mad. You brought me into this argument because you are mad at me, when I didn't even post in this thread until I saw that. That says a lot about how you feel maddy. Saying you are perfectly calm doesn't change anything.
Maddy is !grate/DTHM replied with this 10 years ago, 28 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #689,828
Nexi !tRAnsGiRLo replied with this 10 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #689,829
@previous (Maddy is !grate/DTHM)> clammer
Yes, you are clammer that me. That much is true.
But you are still mad, leave me out of your arguments.
bhutam replied with this 10 years ago, 11 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #689,832
Nexi !tRAnsGiRLo replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #689,834
Maddy is !grate/DTHM replied with this 10 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #689,836
bhutam replied with this 10 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #689,857
@689,834 (Nexi !tRAnsGiRLo)
that geoduck pic made me google if geoducks were clams and then if all bivalves were clams and then if all clams were bivalves
that geoduck pic made me google if geoducks were clams and then if all bivalves were clams and then if all clams were bivalves