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Topic: Apart from Syntax, whom actually uses advanced mathematics in "real life"?

Metæ started this discussion 10 years ago #52,688

By advanced mathematics, I mean something more complex than add/subtract/multiply/divide/percentages.

If algebra, calculus, and trigonometry are useless in "real life" for 90+% of the population, why teach them?

Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 6 minutes later[^] [v] #688,181

Elliptic curve cryptography is a good example of a useful application.

more positive squeegee joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 58 seconds later, 7 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #688,182

uh, well we use calculus pretty frequently, but mostly it's simple engineering stuff like calculating load and junk. we use some trig to occasionally do calculations where actual measuring is impossible. there's plenty of reasons to know more than basic math. on the business side it's useful to know how to plot data and represent it in easy to understand ways. but, if you don't know math then you won't find uses for it even if they are obvious to someone that does. when you know math you find applications all the time. i was not a math guy, but i know a bunch and they use it constantly. i do not.

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Maddy !kCITGirlXc joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 10 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #688,183

We also use algebra on the reg, usually without even realizing that we're using it.

Meowth joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 56 seconds later, 11 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #688,185

I used to use the Pythagorean theorom back in the day to measure the real size of monitors and TVs.

Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 1 day later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #688,685

@688,183 (Maddy !kCITGirlXc)
You've got your known knowns, your known unknowns and your unknown unknowns.

Everyone in America knows algebra!

Sheila LaBoof joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #688,687

@OP
The argument can be extended to most of schooling in general. No one needs to analyze novels for themes and write essays about it either. We should lower the mandatory school level. If you meet minimum skills, you would be free to continue or not continue with other studies. And there should be a wider variety of options after meeting that minimum level. Even if someone chooses pottery for a couple of years, at least they learned how to make something that exists.

Svet !jzYkdX7lIw joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 21 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #688,692

I use trigonometry and algebra in electrical design

Syntax joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #688,746

Metæ
No question that for the majority of our population
> add/subtract/multiply/divide/percentages.

My somewhat tirade in a reply to Cathy was all about what she asked. How to increase her math skills. She however was apparently looking for a shortcut or a way to get around the basic hard work and just use a work sheet- Great for solutions I suppose - the right work sheets - Not great for understanding the fundamentals and moving on to advanced skills.

When I visit on a weekly+ basis my former Employer and now client I of course am surrounded by a population of 10,000's of code writers who are imputing in C++ and other languages a mass of advanced math, to calculate on the fly for CPU and other chips phones and the net of everything uses. Code for phones is mostly advanced MATH

San Diego. I am also surrounded by a mass of people who I surf with and play with and dance with who are in the Bio biz - which is huge here. They use advanced Math and a huge amount of advanced Statistical analysis. I took only the basic Statistics 101+ course. They all took a lot of Calculus and I am only guessing, but probably for publishing results or getting more Gov grants and for selling US Gov on value of the new anti-Virus or Penis keep it up type medications, they are making billions with their Math skills (company is)

Huge just huge number of Engineers work locally for US Navy projects and Civil Engineering people - Ship designers Missile designers to one day free the Falklands maybe

Blue collar? Sure
> add/subtract/multiply/divide/percentages.

Looked up Blue Collar workers and Math needs = "Algebra and trig are skills that machinists, carpenters and welders use"

My dad was at CalTech major was Astronomy, in 2nd year and dropped out re draft for war. On return he had a family to feed so he turned to a high paying union blue collar job. Sheet metal, where he used his trig and geometry skills daily. I needed to learn Algebra at age 10 to study for my math test for FCC exam for ham radio age 11 and he gave me my first basic lessons. I found a better teacher, as someone trained to teach math by trolling a local high school.

So with calculators and work sheets why study advanced math?

Helps with Logic + Brain function + the careful step by step problem process one can use outside of math. So sure many who took advanced math in college may never use it after they graduate. I believe it provides skills for general problem solving in non math areas. Decision making.

Recent studies with MRI also has proven - Learning Calculus at advanced ages works the brain in multiple areas of cortex and prelim studies say it improves brain function and may prevent Alzheimer's.

Logic... Someone who posts here is a Logic expert and betting they can explain why Logic is useful in daily life and how math helps Logically

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Svet !jzYkdX7lIw replied with this 10 years ago, 2 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #688,775

@previous (Syntax)
Retard

Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 7 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #688,776

I use geometry and basic algebra on a pretty regular basis. I used to use a lot of advanced stats at work, but I'm not sure if academic research counts as "real life".

Syntax replied with this 10 years ago, 13 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #688,781

@688,775 (Svet !jzYkdX7lIw)
Ah my net buddy Jesus the Jew Svet

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